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[Canna Sylvan]

we have 2 choices. is it really better NOT to vote for either?

Look up False Dilemma fallacy.

 

[UncleBuck]

Look up False Dilemma fallacy.

lol, like one or the other won't win this time around.

 

[mysunnyboy]

reality not fallacy, one or the other WILL win, i chose Obama

 

[Canna Sylvan]

lol, like one or the other won't win this time around.

Not my fault lots of stupid people believe in the "either or" fallacy. That's the problem with democracy, "oh well, 51% voted I should get sodomized by Bubba. Who am I to argue against the will of the people." While bending over with their pants down. Myself, you'll see me yelling and screaming, while I kick, bite, punch, stab, shoot or whatever it takes, rather than peacefully comply. I could care less for the will of dumb asses.

 

[UncleBuck]

Not my fault lots of stupid people believe in the "either or" fallacy. That's the problem with democracy, "oh well, 51% voted I should get sodomized by Bubba. Who am I to argue against the will of the people." While bending over with their pants down. Myself, you'll see me yelling and screaming, while I kick, bite, punch, stab, shoot or whatever it takes, rather than peacefully comply. I could care less for the will of dumb asses.

you have a right not to be ass fucked by bubba.

rights may not be voted upon, no matter what the fat ass governor of NJ says. you don't put minority rights up for a majority vote, that's retarded.

however, policy may be voted upon.

there's difference and you know it, quit blurring the line.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

you have a right not to be ass fucked by bubba.

rights may not be voted upon, no matter what the fat ass governor of NJ says. you don't put minority rights up for a majority vote, that's retarded.

however, policy may be voted upon.

there's difference and you know it, quit blurring the line.

You'll vote for Obama, because you think it's throwing your vote away if you don't vote either Obama or Romney. One of them will win.

What does that matter. We agree that's the case. Why vote for someone if there's someone else you like better, but has zero chance of winning?

Even if the vote was decided by one vote. You voted Nader. Why would you be unhappy? Nader is who YOU like best. What does it matter if Tom likes Obama?

That's why voting doesn't work. Mob mentality takes over. Then when the vote is over, "see I told you so!" Of course it's so. The vocal mob wanted it. Someone like Nader, or say Ron Paul would make it if everyone voted their heart. But unfortunately people vote the mob and get a sure thing "win."

 

[UncleBuck]

Even if the vote was decided by one vote. You voted Nader. Why would you be unhappy?

so suppose the election was decided by one vote in oregon that threw our electoral votes to one candidate or the other, and romney won it all because i voted nader.

imagine the practical consequences i would face as a medical cannabis grower. that's why it's so important for people in critical swing states to consider this instead of making the throwaway old mcronald vote.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

so suppose the election was decided by one vote in oregon that threw our electoral votes to one candidate or the other, and romney won it all because i voted nader.

imagine the practical consequences i would face as a medical cannabis grower. that's why it's so important for people in critical swing states to consider this instead of making the throwaway old mcronald vote.

So who's your guy? If only you voted and of the ones on the ballot, you'd still pick Obama? Is that for real? No one on the ballot is closer to what you believe than Obama?

 

[UncleBuck]

So who's your guy? If only you voted and of the ones on the ballot, you'd still pick Obama? Is that for real? No one on the ballot is closer to what you believe than Obama?

i haven't gotten my ballot yet, so i don't know who's on it.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

You'll vote for Obama, because you think it's throwing your vote away if you don't vote either Obama or Romney. One of them will win.

What does that matter. We agree that's the case. Why vote for someone if there's someone else you like better, but has zero chance of winning?

Even if the vote was decided by one vote. You voted Nader. Why would you be unhappy? Nader is who YOU like best. What does it matter if Tom likes Obama?

That's why voting doesn't work. Mob mentality takes over. Then when the vote is over, "see I told you so!" Of course it's so. The vocal mob wanted it. Someone like Nader, or say Ron Paul would make it if everyone voted their heart. But unfortunately people vote the mob and get a sure thing "win."

Sadly many people feel like if their guy wins, they win. Their guy really just wants to destroy their lives and rape their children unfortunately.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Allow me to sort this out - Voting on principle, when you know your vote will not effect the outcome of the race in question, is a symbolic action and not a wasted vote. There is nothing wrong with symbolic actions, they are often noble. Likewise, voting for the lesser of two evils is not a cop-out. It is a pragmatic recognition that the future matters, and will be partially determined by the election at hand, so a side is chosen.

Those who can't decide whether to not vote, to cast a symbolic vote, or to vote for the lesser of two evils should ask themselves what impact the symbolic vote will have because such votes have, at times, been noticed. Then they should weigh against that whether their vote for a viable candidate can make a difference. Does it really not matter at all who is elected? Not at all?

 

[Illegal Smile]

And that's why your a pathetic "sunnyboy"..You aren't a man. A real man fights for what he believes in and doesn't cower. A real man fights for his territory and his home, never backs down or gives up. I wish pussies like you couldn't vote. Mitt Romney and Obama are the same fucking team you dumbass, the don't "oppose" each other, this poll only has one option. Fuck this "Poll", I refuse to vote on this "poll" as usual. I will be voting for third party or Ron Paul and continue to do so for the rest of my life.

And...You are part of the problem...You are the one that can't bitch.

My other post was for the rational readers. You strike me as insane. Seriously, you sound like a full blown paranoid schizopheniac. They're not opposing each other eh? Just because both of them are earthlings and not from your planet doesn't mean there is no difference between them.

Oh well, you said it yourself - you are going to continue being insignificant for the rest of your life. For my part, I'm not paying you any further attention. If this board could just get rid of you and Buck, it might be decent.

 

[mysunnyboy]

Allow me to sort this out - Voting on principle, when you know your vote will not effect the outcome of the race in question, is a symbolic action and not a wasted vote. There is nothing wrong with symbolic actions, they are often noble. Likewise, voting for the lesser of two evils is not a cop-out. It is a pragmatic recognition that the future matters, and will be partially determined by the election at hand, so a side is chosen.

Those who can't decide whether to not vote, to cast a symbolic vote, or to vote for the lesser of two evils should ask themselves what impact the symbolic vote will have because such votes have, at times, been noticed. Then they should weigh against that whether their vote for a viable candidate can make a difference. Does it really not matter at all who is elected? Not at all?

you read my mind Smile.
not that it matters with all the reputation whoring done here but +rep to you

 

[billybob420]

I'm quite surprised Obama is winning by 2 fold.

I guess that means all the anti-obama people are just a loud minority (on this site anyways, who knows about IRL).

 

[Illegal Smile]

I'm quite surprised Obama is winning by 2 fold.

I guess that means all the anti-obama people are just a loud minority (on this site anyways, who knows about IRL).

This site is a long way from real life. But it actually serves an example for the nation in terms of what Obama did in 08 compared to this year. In 08 it was probably 9 out of ten here. So this year Romney gets the McCain 10% plus another 20+% taken away from Obama.

Obama had a fragile coalition in 08. He picked up a lot of people that ordinarily would not have voted for a very liberal democrat. With that extra margin he narrowly won states like FL, VA, NC, OH, IN plus others. This time, if he loses that band out of the center, he won't carry any of those states. What can he do to get the coalition back together? I think that kind of thinking explains some of his recent behaviors like the gay marriage rapid evolution, and the unseemly sniping at Bush. He's learning the hard way that it's a lot easier to stand on the outside and throw stones and promises, than to defend a record. Especially when your record sucks.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

My other post was for the rational readers. You strike me as insane.

Says the guy that in every post of his is Obama is the devil. Even though he has been the most conservative democratic president since Woodrow Wilson.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Says the guy that in every post of his is Obama is the devil. Even though he has been the most conservative democratic president since Woodrow Wilson.

Interesting since Woodrow Wilson was the most radical liberal president in history - UNTIL OBAMA

What really sets Obama apart from all the others is that Obama is an actual living, breathing anti-capitalist.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

Interesting since Woodrow Wilson was the most radical liberal president in history - UNTIL OBAMA

What really sets Obama apart from all the others is that Obama is an actual living, breathing anti-capitalist.

An anti-capitalist that chose to preserve the private medical industry? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

 

[Illegal Smile]

An anti-capitalist that chose to preserve the private medical industry? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

Redonkulous is anyone who won't acknowledge that Obama is on record as saying single payer is the ultimate goal. But this is a good example of what we will se much of - democrats claiming with a straight face that is is "they" who want to cut deficits and "they" who respect the private sector. Libruls pretend to be everything they aren't. They are the classic wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

[deprave]

My other post was for the rational readers. You strike me as insane. Seriously, you sound like a full blown paranoid schizopheniac. They're not opposing each other eh? Just because both of them are earthlings and not from your planet doesn't mean there is no difference between them.

Oh well, you said it yourself - you are going to continue being insignificant for the rest of your life. For my part, I'm not paying you any further attention. If this board could just get rid of you and Buck, it might be decent.

Your just too stupid to realize its a false choice and they are on the same team. You strike me as insane and your posts are completely irrational. Continue being insignificant for the rest of your life thinking your in the cool kids club (Mitt Romney Club - Obama club whatever)..Your not in their club dumbass, they don't care if you starve in a ditch somewhere you dumb sheep.