Hermie and Dutch Master Reverse question

[Cobnobuler]

Hi gang-

I have need to sort of treat the rest of my growroom after the discovery of the bedamned bananas in one of my plants, so to ensure that in case the pollen spread around by it got on any of my other girls I think I'm going to go with the Dutch Master Reverse and foliar spray the rest of my plants.
My question is, after reading up on this stuff, while it sounds like just what I need for this problem, there is suggestion to use it along with their Penetrator/Saturator stuff as well. Do I really have to use that stuff too? I ask because currently moneys kinda tight and throwing 20-25 bucks into the Reverse is fine with me, but I kinda hate to put out $55.00 for both products. So, anybody that has intimate knowledge of this product, any info on that is appreciated. If it makes a noticeable difference to use the Saturator along with it, I will.

Thanks

COB

 

[HeyWood Jablowme]

just add a drop of dishsoap, it does the same thing

 

[Cobnobuler]

just add a drop of dishsoap, it does the same thing

Really ? So thats all the penetrator is doing just a binding agent type thing?

 

[HeyWood Jablowme]

yeah, it acts as a wetting agent

 

[elduece]

Dish soap is a retarded advise to use with Reverse. Reverse isn't formulated to be used with dish soap. Penetrator is the ultimate soaker -just use that. Just follow the instructions. Rinse off the next day with distilled water.

If you're at the tail end into flowering, using Reverse isn't advised. It is best to use it during the first 3 weeks into flowering.

 

[Cobnobuler]

Penetrator is the ultimate soaker -just use that.

...Yeah but as I understand it, the Reverse is what I want to make sure any of the pollen isnt going to affect the rest of the plants that were in the growroom with the culprit.
The culprit BTW is about 6 weeks into flower with only 2-3 to go so should I not use it on her then?
Regardless, theres 5 other plants just beginning flowering stage that I want to be sure will not Hermie and they were in the same room with the one that did.

Thanks guys for your help......Still a bit confused though and I want to get the right use out of the cash I have to put out on the problem.

 

[Cobnobuler]

...Any other thoughts ?

 

[HeyWood Jablowme]

Dish soap is a retarded advise to use with Reverse. Reverse isn't formulated to be used with dish soap. Penetrator is the ultimate soaker -just use that. Just follow the instructions. Rinse off the next day with distilled water.

If you're at the tail end into flowering, using Reverse isn't advised. It is best to use it during the first 3 weeks into flowering.

what's retarded is spending that kind of money on saturator when a drop of dishsoap does the exact same thing.
but thanks for your input.

 

[growone]

Reverse is not going to help any plants that have been touched by pollen
if they're been fertlized, then that's how it is, seeds will form
the other plants will not start hermie-ing because of the one plant
now Reverse could help with the one plant, but it could be cheaper to just toss it if you have other females

 

[Cobnobuler]

Reverse is not going to help any plants that have been touched by pollen
if they're been fertlized, then that's how it is, seeds will form
the other plants will not start hermie-ing because of the one plant
now Reverse could help with the one plant, but it could be cheaper to just toss it if you have other females

Hmm thats interesting, that is counter to what I've been reading on it in that the Reverse is supposed to stop that process where its at, and that pollen released by the bananas will pollinate the entire growroom and the Reverse will ensure that flowers dont begin to form on those plants if caught in time as a precautionary measure.

 

[growone]

Hmm thats interesting, that is counter to what I've been reading on it in that the Reverse is supposed to stop that process where its at, and that pollen released by the bananas will pollinate the entire growroom and the Reverse will ensure that flowers dont begin to form on those plants if caught in time as a precautionary measure.

i think that's true, your original post mentioned pollen already released
which is what i was referring to, pollen released is a done deal, those are bullets you can't put back in the gun
now you may have caught things early, and no femmes were knocked up
if it's only one plant hermie, i'd question the cost effectiveness of the Reverse, but it depends on your situation
i've had hermies, which why i read up on reverse, some say it works, others say it doesn't

 

[Cobnobuler]

Grow-

Gotcha' thanx for your input, I appreciate it !!

 

[Cobnobuler]

Well, I just did it. Both the Reverse and the Penetrator. I was afraid to leave all of them under the bright lights so I moved them out on the floor directly in front of their tents but out of the hot direct light.
Does anybody know, I understood the Penetrator to be of a bright green color but it was pink exactly like the reverse. Almost looked like the same shit in both bottles. Anybody use the newer version of the penetrator/Saturator ? What color was it..?
Thanx

 

[M B P]

i use reverse and saturate on every grow... to prevent problems from happening. Saturate is only like 15-20 bucks... and it will last you probably forever. You use it at 1 part to 100 parts of reverse. The purpose of it is to be able to penetrate the leaves from the top. Normally leaves absorb water from the underside. So if you don't use saturate, maybe use dishsoap (i've never used it... but many people say it does the same thing) or maybe spray the underside of your leaves.

bananas aren't the worst thing to see. They don't spread a lot of pollen around. They typically only pollinate their local area. so if you notice bananas late into flower it might be wisest just to pluck them off rather than spray.

 

[M B P]

they are both pink

and you should apply the combination in the dark

 

[Cobnobuler]

they are both pink

and you should apply the combination in the dark

Thanks MBP

 

[Trulife69]

if your already that far into flower im not sure if you will be wanting to foliar spray. I think it states in the instructions a time frame as well.. reverse isnt all its cracked up to be,ive used the shit out of it. What it does do is slow the process,it however does not fix or completely stop anything. Personally I think you would have the same results this far in flower to use a small spray bottle,spray each banana pod and pluck but your still risking everything growing in your room.

 

[Cobnobuler]

ibut your still risking everything growing in your room.

That was my main concern, not so much the plant that hermied but I wanted to prevent it from happening to the others from any pollen that may have gotten on them. The rest are at different time frames of flowering, the most being 4 weeks in for one plant, to only a week on 3 others.

So, I have gotten mixed answers to this question:

Does a hermie plant pollinate only the plant in which it occurs or will it spread pollen to all of the plants in the growroom?

I've gotten everything from " No, it will only pollinate the plant that hermies and often just the buds the bananas appear on"

To, "Yes it will pollenate the entire growroom"

So, I sprayed everything and so far, it didnt seem to cause any kind of harm, and I've actually read a lot of good things about Reverse, some saying it actually increased yield.

 

[Trulife69]

I guess if you didn't have any fan moving air in the room it would probably just drop pollen on itself..but reality if the bananas become ripe or far enough along and starts to drop pollen and there's air circulating in the room,most likely it will hermie your other girls.. There was this one time I had a buddy who had 5 girls going,3 of them hermied and he just said the hell with it and let them finish out...the other 2 were 2 weeks behind those hermies and they finished out just fine. He did use reverse religiously so..There is that chance you could get out of it..How many banans pods does your hermie have on it? I don't buy getting any more yield from using reverse...maybe if they left the seeds in the buds haha. reverse doesnt harm for plants...I was just saying if that plant your spraying in 6 weeks into flower and has buds and then your spraying your whole plant include the nugs that could be a bad thing...
Really,the best advice would be...if theres hardly any bananas and you can spray them and pluck them off without spreading any pollen or no pollen has dropped yet then maybe leave her in there,if the hermie is covered really you would be smart to just remove unless your other girls are showing bananas....Keep a close eye on the others,if they do turn and you keep up with them you can spray just a little on each banana pod and pluck them off.
Hermies suck,good luck bro

 

[Cobnobuler]

Yeah, I've been plucking the ones I find on the hermied plant, but they can reappear by the next day again. Meanwhile I've had no sign of any others of the girls being affected and that of course is my biggest concern. I figure the one is already pretty much screwed although I'd never throw it out. I cant afford to just throw otherwise decent enough plants out so I'll finish her out. But I'm really worried about the rest of my crop being affected and so far, so good.
I've learned with this being the first time I've dealt with hermies that when they appear and they begin to make seed, the plant suffers right away and seems to slow down its progress and even seems to shrink a little bit as it channels its energy into doing what ya dont want them to do, and thats making seeds.