lollipopping????

[bravo917]

Ima bout 2months into my first grow I have been doing alotta research and discoverd this lollipopping technique. I have heard that as long as you don't have space restrictions this will produce the biggest yield is this true??? also how can I do it?? plz keep in mind I am a very inexperienced grower. also what age am I supposed to do it to them.
thnx

 

[elduece]

I don't know about advantages in yield but I always end up lollipopping during the summer months because it allows better air movement underneath and around the plants.

 

[bravo917]

sorry i shud have been more specific I am growing indoor wit a 1000wHPS

 

[Goldowitz]

People typically do this when growing a SOG. You will be able to fit more plants in and will end up with more large buds and less popcorn nugs.

 

[ROFLhacks]

basically all lollipopping means is you cut off all the small useless undergrowth that doesn't get much light and when you do this you tend to have a larger yield because that small growth was taking food from the rest of the plant.

 

[Hugo Phurst]

What the other guys said.

I pick the point where the light stops penetrating, and remove everything from there on down.

 

[SOGfarmer]

IMO lollipop 2 weeks before flower and, if you need it, again 1 wek into flower. Remove all branches and fan leaves on the lower 1/3 of the plant.

 

[bravo917]

thanks every1 I finally get it. will def attempt SOG nxt grow.

 

[eDude]

Ima bout 2months into my first grow I have been doing alotta research and discoverd this lollipopping technique. I have heard that as long as you don't have space restrictions this will produce the biggest yield is this true??? also how can I do it?? plz keep in mind I am a very inexperienced grower. also what age am I supposed to do it to them.
thnx

Kind of funny how things change over time. Lollipopping sounds like something you'd do at a bassnectar show while on X.

I think you have it backwards in that if you DO have space restrictions this might help you get more. 'might' There are a lot of factors to keep in mind. Under a 1K are you willing to have like 30-40 plants? Better check your local laws and be sure not to get your self into deep shit over a few extra plants. I've heard that they will charge you by the plant regardless of how small it is. So, to some people it's better to have 4 big plants then 40 little ones. Now the idea is that well all love the tops of the plants. So more plants, more tops!!! yeah!!!!! well.. kind of.. Also means smaller containers and that means more watering. If you don't have it automated you'll be watering three times a day when it's at it's peak.

Also, do you know how hard it is to get even 20 good clones that are all the same size? This takes months of prepping to do right.

I'd stick to less numbers but bigger plants and look into SCROG 'Screen of Green' rather then SOG 'Sea of Green'. But that's just me. Hope it works out for ya.

 

[bravo917]

thanks edude. I have no problem with growing 40+ small plants I also have enough time to give them proper care. I just want to use the method that will provide the highest yield possible in the shortest amount of time. I will be growing from seeds, also I forgot to mention I have 2 1000w HPS.
Knowing all this would you still suggest scrog as the best method for my situation?

 

[eDude]

From seed will be hard.. From clone is much much easier. From seed you're going to get some variations. Some will be taller, some will be wider and so on. Where with a clones they are all the same. Some of the best growers I know use scrog or a modified screen technique. I'm too lazy. I achieve my needs without it. But, there are several gains from the screen, namely it helps you train the plants (spread them out) then supports the plants later. You just have to have everything timed right, you have to know when and where to put the screen and there are little techniques that are preferred for attaching the plant to the screen. Not the expert on it so I'd go look it up all over the net first.

 

[bravo917]

alright, makes sense. I figured I was going to use seeds only because Im in a rural area and don't want to attract any unwanted attention (by asking friends for clones), so my plan is to try both SCROG and SOG, and see what the difference in my yield is. I am going to do some digging and find the proper way to SCROG. and when I SOG I will make sure its from clones because I can def see how tht can get a little messy starting from seeds.

 

[Barrelhse]

I flower in a 4x4 room under 1000. Over the years I have concluded that removing lower buds and trash will greatly improve the quality and yield on most plants. As others have said, I remove about the lower 1/3 of the growth from each stem on the lower branches. Sometimes I clean them to the last couple of nodes at the growing tip. When I get to the branches that are hugging the stem more than spreading I'll stop and see how things look after a week or two. The popcorn is usually not ripe when the plant is done, and it doesn't yield shit. Much more productive to drive the energy to where it will do some good. I often remove the lower branches entirely, 2 or 3 nodes worth, as these again are kind of a waste of space and energy, with a paltry amount of under-ripe buds at harvest.
(I just did a Plushberry, Spacedawg, and Jackpot Royale about an hour ago- if I read this first I would have done b4 and after pics.)

 

[bravo917]

cool do you lollipop 2 weeks before flower then 1 week into flower also?

 

[SOGfarmer]

cool do you lollipop 2 weeks before flower then 1 week into flower also?

Yes, if you need to. But if you are starting from seed its a different story. Veg the seeds for a very short amount of time, i would suggest to flip to 12/12 and start flower when they are 6" tall. If you let them veg to 12" they will end up 3 feet tall.

 

[Opm]

There is also the advantage of easy spraying. If you get a mite infestation, you have plenty of room the get that spray bottle underneath to spray the bottom of the leaves.

I like to start 1 week before flowering and do it in stages over a few weeks. Taking off too much at once will stress the plant more. You can lollipop up till the third week of flower.

 

[Saldaw]

IMO lollipop 2 weeks before flower and, if you need it, again 1 wek into flower. Remove all branches and fan leaves on the lower 1/3 of the plant.

i remove small lower branches but i leave the fan leaves, what is the advantage of removing fan leaves too?

 

[SOGfarmer]

i remove small lower branches but i leave the fan leaves, what is the advantage of removing fan leaves too?

Let's not get that arguement sarted here. If you're interested in more information or more opinion really on removing or not removing fan leaves, there are plenty of threads on the topic. Here is one that's on the first page of the advanced section right now, https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/521700-fan-leafs-blockers-light-energy.html.

 

[SimonD]

I prune systematically and essentially only grow top colas. You can click on the free seed thread in my sig for examples. There's a post on the third page illustrating the process.

Simon