Do I need to transplant??

MJmood

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This is a plant in it's 12th week of growth and it seems to be having some issues. I was told that the yellow/brown leaves were from spider mites, so I've been applying neem oil, which I have yet to see results from.

Do I need to transplant to a larger pot? I was thinking it's roots may be stunted because I haven't seen any noticeable growth vertically in the past 10 days or so. The pot is only about 1.5 or 2 gallons I think.

If I do need to transplant, is the plant too old and would it severely shock the plant?

Any help would be great, thanks.
 

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farmerjoe420

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the yellow spots do resemble mite damage but it looks hungry too. i would transplant and feed nutes if it were my plant. have you seen any mites or eggs?
 

sonar

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I see several things wrong here. I don't think that plant is getting enough light and also looks like it is suffering from a severe nutrient deficiency. You are right it can probably use a bigger home. I'd go with a 5 gallon bucket. That IMO is the bare minimum for any outdoor plant For being 12 weeks old your plant is pretty small. Have you fed it at all? How much direct sunlight is it getting?
 

MJmood

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the yellow spots do resemble mite damage but it looks hungry too. i would transplant and feed nutes if it were my plant. have you seen any mites or eggs?
No I haven't visibly seen any mites or eggs, but there are some holes in a few of the damaged leaves (you can kinda see in pic 5). What size pot do you recommend transplanting to? And I've been feeding it about once a week (sometimes twice) roughly 2 tablespoons of 5-5-5 fert in water. You think I should up the dosage?
 

MJmood

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I see several things wrong here. I don't think that plant is getting enough light and also looks like it is suffering from a severe nutrient deficiency. You are right it can probably use a bigger home. I'd go with a 5 gallon bucket. That IMO is the bare minimum for any outdoor plant For being 12 weeks old your plant is pretty small. Have you fed it at all? How much direct sunlight is it getting?
I've been feeding it but not too much because someone on here told me to cool it on the nutes - they said it was showing signs of nute burn? But Im starting to seriously doubt that cuz Ive reduced the amount of fert and it's only gotten worse. It gets about 6 hours of first sunlight per day.

  • I've been feeding it about once a week (sometimes twice) roughly 2 tablespoons of 5-5-5 fert in water.​



 

sonar

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I've been feeding it but not too much because someone on here told me to cool it on the nutes - they said it was showing signs of nute burn? But Im starting to seriously doubt that cuz Ive reduced the amount of fert and it's only gotten worse. It gets about 6 hours of first sunlight per day.

  • I've been feeding it about once a week (sometimes twice) roughly 2 tablespoons of 5-5-5 fert in water.​



What type of nutes are you using and in how much water? I don't see anything resembling nute burn. What kind of soil are you using? I really think most of your problems are coming from it being in such a small container. A plant that age getting that much direct sunlight should look like a christmas tree at this point. Not a palm tree.
 

wristychronicles

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if she was mine I would transplant her into a nice big home, of course furnished with tons of NEW premium soil blend. good luck bro
 

kermit2692

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yes def larger pot before flowering...and just so ya know their is no such thing as too "old" to repot....id say more too big to repot because you are gonna have a bitch trying to maneuver that and gingerly repot its gonna be more of a fight lol...^^guy above me has it right make sure you plant in some nice soil and then id wait a couple days and hit with some nutes!!....remember the leaves that look bad will never change back to green watch your new growth to see if you have helped the plant
 

MJmood

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What type of nutes are you using and in how much water? I don't see anything resembling nute burn. What kind of soil are you using? I really think most of your problems are coming from it being in such a small container. A plant that age getting that much direct sunlight should look like a christmas tree at this point. Not a palm tree.
Im using fox farm all purpose for nutes http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-FX14073-18-Pound-FoxFarm-Fertilizer/dp/B007O0G418 in about 12 oz of H2O, sometimes a little more.

and for soil Im suring fox farm happy frog organic potting soil http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-FX14054-12-Quart-FoxFarm-Organic/dp/B002JLEDQ0

Ive decided Im going to transplant ASAP. What time of day would be best to transplant? And what size pot do you recommend?
 

MJmood

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if she was mine I would transplant her into a nice big home, of course furnished with tons of NEW premium soil blend. good luck bro
I have some fox farm happy frog organic potting soil that has been used once for an herb garden, it's only about 3 months old. Do you think its necessary that I buy NEW soil? This soil seems to be in good condition and was only used once for some basil.
 

HUSTLERBOY20

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Like they all said...5 gal minimum, 8 gallon if you want a monster and if you want to go cheap go with FFOF its like 16 a bag and some perlite and coco coir..Id suggest peat moss if you wanna keep it cheap but either or works the same.. perlite is like 4 bucks a bag and peat is like 10 a bale at lowes if your in the states.


Wanna make it more interesting mix 50/50 FFOF with some Pro-Mix Hp Myco and some perlite at like 20% and water it for a few weeks and then you can start feeding at half strength
 

farmerjoe420

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Im using fox farm all purpose for nutes http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-FX14073-18-Pound-FoxFarm-Fertilizer/dp/B007O0G418 in about 12 oz of H2O, sometimes a little more.

and for soil Im suring fox farm happy frog organic potting soil http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-FX14054-12-Quart-FoxFarm-Organic/dp/B002JLEDQ0

Ive decided Im going to transplant ASAP. What time of day would be best to transplant? And what size pot do you recommend?



like the others said, i would go to 5 gal or bigger. if your growing all season in a container, i would say 20 gal or better. another thing is the fertilizer your using is not water soluble and should be topdressed into the soil. this is why its not being as effective as it should be.my best advice to you right now is to transplant asap, get a bottle of liquid fish or water soluble fert and feed immediately. after that topdress with the happy frog and im sure things will turn around pretty quick.
 

wristychronicles

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I have some fox farm happy frog organic potting soil that has been used once for an herb garden, it's only about 3 months old. Do you think its necessary that I buy NEW soil? This soil seems to be in good condition and was only used once for some basil.
There are many reasons why you should just make up a big batch of soil, you'll know exactly what is in it, good practice, fun :). Many of great options have been given too ya and are commercially available. My current blend is coco coir and perlite, cut with organic compost and ferts. My choice of food is broken down fish, worm, bat, chicken,alfalfa and kelp based matter. Always inoculating with multiple cultivars of mycorrhizal fungi. I use super thrive and also a little sand. I water with molasses and sometimes comfrey and banana peel tea to feed the soil, I have tried a lot of different grow mediums but I have found this blend works for me, Good soil appreciation has a side effect of healthy plants. hope this helps
 

sonar

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Transplating a plant that size can be a little tricky. You'll want to let it dry out a little bit first. Gently grab a hold of the base of the stem using your palm and fingers to support the base. If tthe stem isn't too thick you can put it between your index and middle finger. Pick up the container with your other hand and flip the whole thing upside down. A couple taps and the whole root ball and pretty much the entire contents of the container will slide out into your hand. Have the new container ready ahead of time and drop it in. You'll be good to go.
 

MJmood

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Is it necessary that I buy NEW soil?? I have some fox farm happy frog organic potting soil that is about 3-4 months old...I used this soil (which had been used previously) when I transplanted the seedling and it seemed to work great. If I were to buy some liquid nutes and use the topdressing nutes I have, would that work just fine?

Im just not sure if the soil has lost its nutrients over time
 

wristychronicles

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Is it necessary that I buy NEW soil?? I have some fox farm happy frog organic potting soil that is about 3-4 months old...I used this soil (which had been used previously) when I transplanted the seedling and it seemed to work great. If I were to buy some liquid nutes and use the topdressing nutes I have, would that work just fine?

Im just not sure if the soil has lost its nutrients over time
You can do what ever you like man, if you dont want to make new soil then dont. You however are also forgetting about bugs and mites that can reside in questionable used soil. Then you will be back online posting pictures with spider mites or aphids and asking how to get rid of them and people are going to throw hundreds of ideas past you, I say try to be safe from the start so you dont have huge buds with tiny webs in them, sucked dry of all things worth smoking..
 
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