Second grow, White Widow X Big Bud Feminized. Hope you enjoy :D!

Ocho2

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crazyhazey:7536319 said:
Thanks a lot. It's awesome to have everyone here to talk with and without you guys, they wouldn't have made it much longer. And the Mrs. can only handle the constant rambling i do so much xD.

Maybe the elevated PH burned and caused lockout? Number one hasn't been normal green since it was a seedling and was the first to show signs of problems. Now shes finally getting a dark green back, as all those dark green leaves never were dark and always were super bright.

Im guessing the PH caused total lockdown and an overabundance of certain nutes. And being a half strength then probably made it even worse in the PH area, not having the ph down and all.

I really think its looking clear, its booming more in here, and I cant wait to watch them swell and elongate. I wonder how tall these colas will be.

Thanks crazy:3
-Ocho2
lol i cant count how many times RIU saved my ass. and yeah pH can cause lockout, compared to those lower leaves i can really see some progress though. a good flush can usually cure a lot of that, poke holes in the soil to let them wick out faster too, just try to stay away from the taproot when doing so, i dont think itll be necessary though since they're back on track. id just try to pH your water every time before water, lemon juice to lower it, regular water to raise it.
Do you think it would be smart to trim off those dying/yellow leaves? Yet again Id rather not stess the girls anymore than they've already been put through.

I figured out after a few experiments that at 1/4 strength in the water I use it take 15 drips of ph down. Gah I wonder what it was at before >.<

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Ocho2

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Elliesdaddy:7536535 said:
There looking very good mate them buds will be really swelling up soon ;)
Your mylar looks creased if you can for the best reflection take down the mylar if it's a tent you should be able to iron the outside fabric so it will make all you're mylar flat for better light reflect will probably only improve by like 1percent so if you have nothing to do..:)
Update me when there is more pics buddy
I wish it was mylar. Hehe its just aluminum foil. But I suppose its better than nothing.

Around what time did your wwxbb swell? Gah I am getting anxious xD.

Thanks a lot ellies, and Ill keep you updated :D

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C Cat:7536559 said:
Subbbbbbbed I was realling looking to do a 400-600w BB x something looking good!:hump:



~C That Cat?:shock:
Well welcome aboard cat :3. Great to have you here. It was always a want of Mine to grow a big.bud strain, but when I saw these seeds and it said "knockout couchlock high" I had to grow it.

Great to have you guys here, and +Rep to you Cat :D.

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Ocho2

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Since I figured the focus out, I had to video again. I may be a bit obsessive but hey..thats what we are all here here for..the love and survival of or gorgeous crops.

Video will be up within the hour :3!

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[video=youtube;g3wMo8VYzFE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3wMo8VYzFE[/video]

27 Days of Darkness :D!. I love it.

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crazyhazey

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Do you think it would be smart to trim off those dying/yellow leaves? Yet again Id rather not stess the girls anymore than they've already been put through.

I figured out after a few experiments that at 1/4 strength in the water I use it take 15 drips of ph down. Gah I wonder what it was at before >.<

-Ocho2
id leave them honestly, they still serve purpose as a secondary energy source come late flower, and im sure some are still photosynthesizing. and damn! 15 drops!? thats insane, what nutes do you use? i can usually add anything to rainwater and have no problems.
 

Ocho2

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crazyhazey:7539959 said:
Do you think it would be smart to trim off those dying/yellow leaves? Yet again Id rather not stess the girls anymore than they've already been put through.

I figured out after a few experiments that at 1/4 strength in the water I use it take 15 drips of ph down. Gah I wonder what it was at before >.<

-Ocho2
id leave them honestly, they still serve purpose as a secondary energy source come late flower, and im sure some are still photosynthesizing. and damn! 15 drops!? thats insane, what nutes do you use? i can usually add anything to rainwater and have no problems.
Its hydro gardens and lights brand of 7-9-5. When I water they measure in at 5.3-5.4 and eat then it buffers back towards 6.5.

:3
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crazyhazey

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Its hydro gardens and lights brand of 7-9-5. When I water they measure in at 5.3-5.4 and eat then it buffers back towards 6.5.

:3
-Ocho2
sounds about right, you might wanna lower the N for late flower though, i use bontaicare's hydroplex for late flower but other than that im like 90% organic. btw watched that video, those hair look long, these buds are really gonna fill out in the next couple weeks. and i liked the skyrim poster, im playin that shit right now actually haha
 

Ocho2

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crazyhazey:7540196 said:
Its hydro gardens and lights brand of 7-9-5. When I water they measure in at 5.3-5.4 and eat then it buffers back towards 6.5.

:3
-Ocho2
sounds about right, you might wanna lower the N for late flower though, i use bontaicare's hydroplex for late flower but other than that im like 90% organic. btw watched that video, those hair look long, these buds are really gonna fill out in the next couple weeks. and i liked the skyrim poster, im playin that shit right now actually haha
Awesome :D. I have the exact metal imperial emblem tattooed on my right arm. Ive played 422 hours..still no where in the game. Even ate mushrooms and skyrim'ed away XD. The girls are on now and I am pumped to watch them explode xD.

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According to Female Seeds, their WWxBB is ready in "7-8 weeks from flipping to 12/12". I can't believe todays darkness marks 4 weeks already! I am astonished.

The buds on these plants are the size of my old poorly lighted plant already..and that was when all its trichs were cloudy. These are still 3-4 weeks away xD!

The amazing difference in all aspects of growth is insane.

I wonder if in two weeks ill be able to take a single sample off? Probably wont be as great as the finished product though.

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Ocho2

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And actually, a guy on there said his buds on his WWxBB were ready in 7-8 weeks. He also went to week 9 and it was too done.

A lot of people also mentioned the issue with them herming out when you go too long, so I am guessing somewhere around day 56 give or take a day or two.

The last plant I harvested I had a hydrometer in the jar when it was curing. I want to master a new trimming method, such as whats smart with the big fans and how much of the small leaves to trim and how much to leave. Also with curing, I want to learn the perfect method so multiple hydrometers aren't needed..and the bud doesn't mold.

Look forward to hearing back :3!

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C Cat

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Looks great Ocho!I wouldnt take a sample(Thats Just me)Id wait to cut her down,You leave large leafs on the trimmed budds?


~C That Cat?:shock:
 

Ocho2

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C Cat:7541146 said:
Looks great Ocho!I wouldnt take a sample(Thats Just me)Id wait to cut her down,You leave large leafs on the trimmed budds?


~C That Cat?:shock:
The last plant I just got rid of the large leaves, slightlu trimmed the small pieces sticking out, left some leaf, then trimmed a bit more after dry before curing. What techniques do you guys use?

Its looking crazy xD.

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crazyhazey

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Awesome :D. I have the exact metal imperial emblem tattooed on my right arm. Ive played 422 hours..still no where in the game. Even ate mushrooms and skyrim'ed away XD. The girls are on now and I am pumped to watch them explode xD.

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hahaha ah that sounds amazing, some shit on that game would be pretty trippy, yet idk, sometimes scary if you were on something like shrooms. and it should be doubled in size in the next week or two, they seem like they matured pretty fast so im excited to see this strains potential. as for the 56 day harvest, id say get yourself a microscope and check the trichs, or just count the red hairs compared to the white ones. as for drying and curing, id trim as much leaf matter as possible, use the trimmings for dry ice hash or BHO. i dry mine for about 3 days and keep my fan on medium, i rotate the buds until i feel they're pretty dry. cut off as much stem as possible, it will only store extra moisture. after the dry, i move them to a wooden cigar box to help the moisture even out, if theres any moisture left in the stem it should redistribute into the buds, if theyre wet when you touch them you can leave the wooden box(also works with a brown paper bag) cracked open in front of a fan for an hour or so, go back to feel it and if its pretty dry just leave them in the box to redistribute again. soon enough they should have little to no excess moisture, put some sort of absorbent fabric over the lid of your jar and check if the fabric is wet when you open it, in this case, move it back to the box. i use a paper towel for this, however toilet paper is more noticeable when its wet. ive heard of people putting salt rock in a screen over attached to their lid to their lid, however this method is one of the lesser used ones, i havent tried it but id use something like rice rather than salt rock honestly. make sure your jar isnt packed tight, and let it sit open for about an hour a day everyday for the first week or so. try to keep them in the dark to keep the THC from degrading. id keep the paper towel on the lid for the first week or so, this way any excess moisture is absorbed.
 

Ocho2

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crazyhazey:7541170 said:
Awesome :D. I have the exact metal imperial emblem tattooed on my right arm. Ive played 422 hours..still no where in the game. Even ate mushrooms and skyrim'ed away XD. The girls are on now and I am pumped to watch them explode xD.

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hahaha ah that sounds amazing, some shit on that game would be pretty trippy, yet idk, sometimes scary if you were on something like shrooms. and it should be doubled in size in the next week or two, they seem like they matured pretty fast so im excited to see this strains potential. as for the 56 day harvest, id say get yourself a microscope and check the trichs, or just count the red hairs compared to the white ones. as for drying and curing, id trim as much leaf matter as possible, use the trimmings for dry ice hash or BHO. i dry mine for about 3 days and keep my fan on medium, i rotate the buds until i feel they're pretty dry. cut off as much stem as possible, it will only store extra moisture. after the dry, i move them to a wooden cigar box to help the moisture even out, if theres any moisture left in the stem it should redistribute into the buds, if theyre wet when you touch them you can leave the wooden box(also works with a brown paper bag) cracked open in front of a fan for an hour or so, go back to feel it and if its pretty dry just leave them in the box to redistribute again. soon enough they should have little to no excess moisture, put some sort of absorbent fabric over the lid of your jar and check if the fabric is wet when you open it, in this case, move it back to the box. i use a paper towel for this, however toilet paper is more noticeable when its wet. ive heard of people putting salt rock in a screen over attached to their lid to their lid, however this method is one of the lesser used ones, i havent tried it but id use something like rice rather than salt rock honestly. make sure your jar isnt packed tight, and let it sit open for about an hour a day everyday for the first week or so. try to keep them in the dark to keep the THC from degrading. id keep the paper towel on the lid for the first week or so, this way any excess moisture is absorbed.
Im sure the PH slowed the maturing down a bit, but since that was fixed they've just boomed. I mean the colas are still not super tall and huge, but that should change in a week or two? I am definitely going to have to Veg for less time on the next grow. I vegged until 17,18, and 12 inches. But the amusing thing is that the runt, the 12 inch at flowering, is the tallest of the girls. Measured her this morning and she is 3.5 feet on the dot. The others are at 3 foot 4 inches. I thought space would be better, but since i vegged longer plus the flowering stretch I only have 5-6 inches left to raise the light. Should be good for the last weeks of their lives though. I have a scope. It has a light, and is 60x-100x with focus as well. Is it possible to cure 100% in jars? After dry, snip off, loosely put into jars, burp every day for weeks along with keeping in the dark? Do you only burp the buds/jars only once a day, or just once every say 8-12 hours?

I love growing in Coco, and its a first time for me. Though it has its advantages, a lot can go wrong too. Hell, everything can go wrong in any medium and any circumstance. Now that ive grown in dirt and coco, I would really like to look into how organic growing is. Rather than having to mess with the PH and all, all natutal would be different. Any recommendations?

Thanks Crazy ^_*

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crazyhazey

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Im sure the PH slowed the maturing down a bit, but since that was fixed they've just boomed. I mean the colas are still not super tall and huge, but that should change in a week or two? I am definitely going to have to Veg for less time on the next grow. I vegged until 17,18, and 12 inches. But the amusing thing is that the runt, the 12 inch at flowering, is the tallest of the girls. Measured her this morning and she is 3.5 feet on the dot. The others are at 3 foot 4 inches. I thought space would be better, but since i vegged longer plus the flowering stretch I only have 5-6 inches left to raise the light. Should be good for the last weeks of their lives though. I have a scope. It has a light, and is 60x-100x with focus as well. Is it possible to cure 100% in jars? After dry, snip off, loosely put into jars, burp every day for weeks along with keeping in the dark? Do you only burp the buds/jars only once a day, or just once every say 8-12 hours?

I love growing in Coco, and its a first time for me. Though it has its advantages, a lot can go wrong too. Hell, everything can go wrong in any medium and any circumstance. Now that ive grown in dirt and coco, I would really like to look into how organic growing is. Rather than having to mess with the PH and all, all natutal would be different. Any recommendations?

Thanks Crazy ^_*

-Ocho2
for sure, theyll amaze you how much there gonna fatten up really. i could show you pics of an old big bud cross i had, i think i have more pics of its later stages but im pretty sure i have a few when it just started, it was dominantly pre 98 bubba and trainwreck but big bud was in its lineage. either way, she double in size in as little as like 2 and a half weeks. and nice, looks like the 1 foot one was a good pheno, some will stretch better than others.
you should be fine on raising the light though, i think by now theyre done stretchin and ready to pack on some weight. and yes but id say do the brown paper bag if you want it to go by faster, jars are great for preserving the THC and letting the chlorophyll die out but the paper bag method gets out a good amount of moisture without over drying your bud. id highly suggest it, sometimes mason jars just dont work out so well when it comes to wicking out excess moisture.

i actually have been growin organic for 3 years now, mostly that is(the 3 weeks is when they really eat so some synthetics help to get them all the food they can eat). id suggest brewing microbe teas every 3-4 waters, add some roots from your yard(any fast growing weeds are recommended, they grow fast because they have all those microbes) and a bit of blackstrap molasses(unsulphured!) or honey, theres other things you can use like bud candy but that shit is way too expensive for my taste. i have some old liquid carbo load from AN, i watered it down and use it occasionally for my teas, but i usually just feed it to my compost.

compost is the best thing for plants, i add fruit, old food, and worm castings and high nitrogen bat guano to a 3x3 tray of black kow original, and some really composted organic choice from MG(i usually stay away from MG, but if theyve been composted enough its good soil). i also add some earth worms to my mix, this helps speed up the decomposing process. keep your compost nice and moist, and watering with sugary liquids is recommended to feed your microbes(i even use old coca cola, orange juice, anything expired really except milk or meat products). eggshells are also great for your compost, it packs lots of calcium and buffer soil pH well.

but if you just wanna feed them organic feed, get something like worm castings, high N guano and bone/blood meal if you can get your hands on some. add a small amount to your water(i suggest rainwater, perfect pH and tons of minerals), shake it up, then feed. simple as that. or you can just put it on your top soil.
as for flower, i use high P and K guano and blood/bone meal as well, composted banana peels are also great feed for them(just about any composted fruit is high in potash and phosphorus). i used to have veg and flower compost, but i stopped making my flower compost recently since im trying out technaflora's line for this run. hope all these suggestions helped, id suggest looking up how to brew teas on here, its pretty simple and cheap, all you need is an airstone, some rich feed, and something to feed your microbes. adding the roots like i suggested helps a bunch to raise the density of these microbe colonies, brewing can take up to 3 days and the tea should be kept in the fridge for storage, it will stay good for a while, if it goes bad, just add it to your compost and let the worms take care of it.

glad to help ocho2 :)
 

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Wow amazing. It seems as if organic is one of the best ways, and probably the least problem causing.

I wonder what the yield amount will be around between my three girls. I mean the amount of nuggets everywhere from top to bottom is insane, but once swelling occurs its going to be mind blowing. Since I FIMed and nodes are plentiful, maybe the super cropping method will boost the yield a good amount. I was hoping 3 ounces a plant, but maybe those numbers are too large? A friend once said in 5 gal. Buckets you can yield an ounce per gallon..but it probably all depends on lighting and all.

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crazyhazey

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Wow amazing. It seems as if organic is one of the best ways, and probably the least problem causing.

I wonder what the yield amount will be around between my three girls. I mean the amount of nuggets everywhere from top to bottom is insane, but once swelling occurs its going to be mind blowing. Since I FIMed and nodes are plentiful, maybe the super cropping method will boost the yield a good amount. I was hoping 3 ounces a plant, but maybe those numbers are too large? A friend once said in 5 gal. Buckets you can yield an ounce per gallon..but it probably all depends on lighting and all.

-Ocho2:3
id say it takes all parts of growing into account, like microbes and everything synthetics cannot provide. its much simpler, youll never find yourself burning them, and pH problems rarely arise. its like pressin the easy button. and who knows, too young to tell but since they're big bud crosses, im sure you wont be disappointed. it too late for super cropping now, any topping would just slow your growth process, theyre building buds now and will be for the next few weeks. and that ounce per gallon thing, i think its possible but you gotta veg them for a while and train them very well, also depends on light too. with a 1000w or two, im sure that wouldnt be hard to pull off. 3ozs per plant is an alright estimate, maybe more, maybe less. to early to tell to be honest.
 
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