Learning...

[eye exaggerate]

Are you an atheist? Have you learned anything from theists here that makes you wonder?

Are you a theist? Have you learned anything from atheists here that makes you wonder?

...the volleys can't be flying for the sheer 'joy' of it What are you going to take away from these discussions?

(I haven't mentioned the agnostics, if you were to ask me why I'd have to say that "I just don't know" )

Me? I've learned to structure my thinking in a way that I didn't know about before. It's pretty cool.

You?

 

[Hepheastus420]

Yeah of course.. I've learned PLENTY from atheists and theists. From atheists I've learned to use logic and to appreciate life no matter what. From theists, I've learned many little life lessons. They say it's god teaching me these things but they fail to realize that they have great knowledge of life. They just give the credit away.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I've learned no amount of rational discussion or logical thought will matter to someone shackled by faith. Rational arguments don't work on irrational people. I've learned speaking about religion with certain kinds of people is a waste of time. Not to get hung up on things I can't change.

Funny I've never come across a religious person with any actual original thoughts or arguments for belief, a single time. I've been on the scene for 6 years, and every religious argument has been around for decades.

I've learned that the internet is where organized religions come to die. Bullshit doesn't get past people seeking answers, and it's impossible to lie when anyone can get the correct answer with the touch of a button. Those that don't, don't want to know what's true.

Worth 6 years of wasted time.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I've learned nothing from atheists. I had no idea that these passionate proof preachers even existed before I made an account here, and here I thought this place would be full of chill people that dont give a fuck about what people think or believe. I have learned something from you though Eye, I like reading what you have to say in discussions. You are the only christian I've met with the mindset that you have and you are one of the smarter people that I know, I had no idea christians like you existed lol.

 

[tyler.durden]

Hey, Eye! Great thread idea. I really like this forum, the intellectuals, the crazies, the posers, the trolls, it's all good. It's SO entertaining, usually a lot better than what's on TV. I've learned a lot from so many of you, most of you are much more interesting than the people I run across IRL. There are some heavy thinkers here: from the skeptics, atheists and lovers of science I'm always learning something useful, and many are experts at subjects that really interest me. From the theists and believers of the supernatural, it's usually interesting to see where and why they're so very wrong. JK It is interesting to see how and why they came by there beliefs. Hep is an amazing example of how the discussions here (along with courage and honest introspection) can facilitate a drastic change in one's thought processes and beliefs. I'm inclined to speculate that there are probably others that lurk in these forums who have experienced similar epiphanies...

 

[Padawanbater2]

I've learned nothing from atheists. I had no idea that these passionate proof preachers even existed before I made an account here, and here I thought this place would be full of chill people that dont give a fuck about what people think or believe. I have learned something from you though Eye, I like reading what you have to say in discussions. You are the only christian I've met with the mindset that you have and you are one of the smarter people that I know, I had no idea christians like you existed lol.

You've learned nothing, that is not surprising.

I don't care what anyone thinks or believes until it reaches into my life. Simple enough, eh?

Big difference from eye and other fanatical members. I wouldn't expect you to recognize the distinction, though, anyone with differing beliefs than your own or those that demand evidence of claims are dismissed as "proof preachers". Ironic.


I've also learned not to tolerate intolerant people.

 

[Hepheastus420]

I've learned nothing from atheists. I had no idea that these passionate proof preachers even existed before I made an account here, and here I thought this place would be full of chill people that dont give a fuck about what people think or believe. I have learned something from you though Eye, I like reading what you have to say in discussions. You are the only christian I've met with the mindset that you have and you are one of the smarter people that I know, I had no idea christians like you existed lol.

Well thanks lol. Stick around, you're bound to learn something.

 

[tyler.durden]

Well thanks lol. Stick around, you're bound to learn something.

Or not............

 

[Hepheastus420]

Or not............

lol, come on tyler he has to think about the things you guys say.. just a little bit. Look he's already leanred that there's people that don't believe fairy tales are real. He's learning, he just doesn't want to admit it.

 

[Padawanbater2]

He trolls. He can't be a real person. Nothing he's described makes sense when analyzed. Fail troll fails.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

You've learned nothing, that is not surprising.

I don't care what anyone thinks or believes until it reaches into my life. Simple enough, eh?

Big difference from eye and other fanatical members. I wouldn't expect you to recognize the distinction, though, anyone with differing beliefs than your own or those that demand evidence of claims are dismissed as "proof preachers". Ironic.


I've also learned not to tolerate intolerant people.

Your an anti-semite whos a "Spirituality Mod", obviously you care what other people think and believe. And in what way do other peoples beliefs reach into your life? Are you saying when someone says something that conflicts with science and atheism that it threatens you and you have to put them in their place?.. actually... Lets not start this... We are convinced that the other is an idiot and this never goes anywhere =).

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Well thanks lol. Stick around, you're bound to learn something.

I agree with pretty much everything that science has to offer, including the big bang, what else is there to learn from atheists besides "Everything spiritual is a fairy tale"??

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

He trolls. He can't be a real person. Nothing he's described makes sense when analyzed. Fail troll fails.

I got your panties in a bunch before, typing forcefully and shit, thats a win in my book =p.

 

[Hepheastus420]

I agree with pretty much everything that science has to offer, including the big bang, what else is there to learn from atheists besides "Everything spiritual is a fairy tale"??

It depends on what you ask them. If you ask them what the meaning of life is they will give you inspiring thoughts. They won't just tell you to put your trust in some god, which doesn't help.

 

[Hepheastus420]

Your an anti-semite whos a "Spirituality Mod", obviously you care what other people think and believe. And in what way do other peoples beliefs reach into your life? Are you saying when someone says something that conflicts with science and atheism that it threatens you and you have to put them in their place?.. actually... Lets not start this... We are convinced that the other is an idiot and this never goes anywhere =).

Orrrr you could hear pad out because he backs his claims up.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

It depends on what you ask them. If you ask them what the meaning of life is they will give you inspiring thoughts. They won't just tell you to put your trust in some god, which doesn't help.

And your still talking to me like Im religious lol

 

[Padawanbater2]

Your an anti-semite whos a "Spirituality Mod", obviously you care what other people think and believe. And in what way do other peoples beliefs reach into your life? Are you saying when someone says something that conflicts with science and atheism that it threatens you and you have to put them in their place?.. actually... Lets not start this... We are convinced that the other is an idiot and this never goes anywhere =).

You don't know what 'anti-semite' means.

I earned mod status.

Religion reaches into my life by influencing religious politicians, thereby passing legislation based on religious foundations, which, often times, are completely contrary to American interests or subjective morality. Obvious.

When someone says something based on faith, it conflicts with logistical reasoning. The very definition of faith, which all organized religions are based on, is belief without sufficient evidence. In other words, belief based on authority, based on feeling, emotion, irrationality. These people should be publicly criticized because when doing so, it's impossible to stand up to reason. And being in public shames them back behind the curtain of irrationality, where they belong. If you have an idea, and it's of sound reasoning, it will be easy to convince other people of it's validity, if it's bullshit, they'll recognize it immediately. When it comes to science, the mob rule, rules, and there is a very specific reason for it. Understanding that reason is the first step to becoming a skeptical, reasonable, rational person.

I got your panties in a bunch before, typing forcefully and shit, thats a win in my book =p.

Spoken like a true troll.

 

[Hepheastus420]

And your still talking to me like Im religious lol

No I'm not. I know you don't have a religion. And I don't talk to anybody different because of their beliefs. You make some strange claims (just being honest ) and they usually don't come with proof. This isn't about religion, it's about backing up your claims. Pad backs his up. If he told me science now shows us that dark matter controls gravity (not true), I'd ask him for proof. If he couldn't provide it, I'd simply not believe in him.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

No I'm not. I know you don't have a religion. And I don't talk to anybody different because of their beliefs. You make some strange claims (just being honest ) and they usually don't come with proof. This isn't about religion, it's about backing up your claims. Pad backs his up. If he told me science now shows us that dark matter controls gravity (not true), I'd ask him for proof. If he couldn't provide it, I'd simply not believe in him.

I never maid any claims about god (I dont think lol) just claims that the ancients had advanced knowledge beyond our own. A good example of that is the self explanatory Flower of Life video but the only feedback I got was "blah blah CHERRY PICKING blah blah!"... I dont need to prove god to anyone, only person you need to prove god to is yourself. This beautiful and amazingly complex world proved god to me but even after that I experienced things that cemented my beliefs into facts because my gifted spiritual friend shown me sides to reality that I had no idea existed. I have no faith, thats believing without evidence, I've encountered supernatural evidence multiple times.

(edit) actually I have made claims about god but I dont give two shits if you believe them or not lol it doesnt change whats real.

 

[Hepheastus420]

I never maid any claims about god (I dont think lol) just claims that the ancients had advanced knowledge beyond our own. A good example of that is the self explanatory Flower of Life video but the only feedback I got was "blah blah CHERRY PICKING blah blah!"... I dont need to prove god to anyone, only person you need to prove god to is yourself. This beautiful and amazingly complex world proved god to me but even after that I experienced things that cemented my beliefs into facts because my gifted spiritual friend shown me sides to reality that I had no idea existed. I have no faith, thats believing without evidence, I've encountered supernatural evidence multiple times.

If you haven't made a claim about god yet, you have now . If you claim that god exists in public, you should back it up.