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[Padawanbater2]

I never maid any claims about god (I dont think lol) just claims that the ancients had advanced knowledge beyond our own. A good example of that is the self explanatory Flower of Life video but the only feedback I got was "blah blah CHERRY PICKING blah blah!"... I dont need to prove god to anyone, only person you need to prove god to is yourself. This beautiful and amazingly complex world proved god to me but even after that I experienced things that cemented my beliefs into facts because my gifted spiritual friend shown me sides to reality that I had no idea existed. I have no faith, thats believing without evidence, I've encountered supernatural evidence multiple times.

(edit) actually I have made claims about god but I dont give two shits if you believe them or not lol it doesnt change whats real.

Dude, Mindphuk gave an explicit reply to your 'flower of life' video that you posted, and you left it at that, never giving a counter argument. He's even brought it up in 2 other threads that I've seen, still nothing. He put in considerable time and effort into the reply, and you simply ignored it. Stop kidding yourself.

"The only person you need to prove God to is yourself" - perhaps the only shred of truth I've ever read you utter.

You don't know what 'supernatural' means.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

If you haven't made a claim about god yet, you have now . If you claim that god exists in public, you should back it up.

Should I? Why is that? I suggest you re-read what I just told you.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Should I? Why is that? I suggest you re-read what I just told you.

'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'

-Carl Sagan

 

[Hepheastus420]

Should I? Why is that? I suggest you re-read what I just told you.

I just did. If you want to prove god to yourself, then go ahead. But please don't come in here saying stuff that doesn't make sense. And don't post things that you can't back up (with legit proof) without expecting people to argue against your claims. Sure you may believe your friends are proof enough for you, but they aren't for us .

I'm glad your beliefs don't harm anybody. So props on that.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Dude, Mindphuk gave an explicit reply to your 'flower of life' video that you posted, and you left it at that, never giving a counter argument. He's even brought it up in 2 other threads that I've seen, still nothing. He put in considerable time and effort into the reply, and you simply ignored it. Stop kidding yourself.

"The only person you need to prove God to is yourself" - perhaps the only shred of truth I've ever read you utter.

You don't know what 'supernatural' means.

Your thinking about the pyramid video, numb nuts, and no one even watched half of it. Out of the many claims made in the video he decided to focus on just one to try and prove the whole video false. He focused on measurements of an incomplete pyramid and came up with a number thats under the speed of light.

And you know damn well I know what supernatural means. Im sure you remember the story of my spiritually gifted friend, you kept saying that it was all "coincidence" remember?

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I just did. If you want to prove god to yourself, then go ahead. But please don't come in here saying stuff that doesn't make sense. And don't post things that you can't back up (with legit proof) without expecting people to argue against your claims. Sure you may believe your friends are proof enough for you, but they aren't for us .

I'm glad your beliefs don't harm anybody. So props on that.

I can post what ever the fuck I want man lol I'll post anything I know to be true about god and spirituality as long as they hold relevance to the subject that we are discussing and theres fellow believers in spirit that might be interested. I dont give a shit if people are skeptical of my godly and spiritual claims, doesnt make it any less true =)

 

[Hepheastus420]

I can post what ever the fuck I want man lol I'll post anything I know to be true about god and spirituality as long as they hold relevance to the subject that we are discussing and theres fellow believers in spirit that might be interested. I dont give a shit if people are skeptical of my godly and spiritual claims, doesnt make it any less true =)

Didn't mean to anger you bro lol. And yes, you do give a shit otherwise you'd be fine with us being skeptical. And you're right, I chose the wrong words. I said "don't post..." when I should have said "you should expect people to argue with you when you say things that don't have proof".. That's what I meant, didn't mean to come off like a dick.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Didn't mean to anger you bro lol. And yes, you do give a shit otherwise you'd be fine with us being skeptical. And you're right, I chose the wrong words. I said "don't post..." when I should have said "you should expect people to argue with you when you say things that don't have proof".. That's what I meant, didn't mean to come off like a dick.

I never thoroughly debated god here, because I dont care if you believe or not, I know what I say wont change your point of view. So no, I dont care what atheists have to say about god.

 

[Hepheastus420]

I never thoroughly debated god here, because I dont care if you believe or not, I know what I say wont change your point of view. So no, I dont care what atheists have to say about god.

I'm glad you threw in the "about god" part.. Surely you see us as your equals right?

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I'm glad you threw in the "about god" part.. Surely you see us as your equals right?

well... Equals in a way that you would think is bullshit =p

 

[Hepheastus420]

well... Equals in a way that you would think is bullshit =p

Funny, I consider you my equal in a way that you don't believe .

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Funny, I consider you my equal in a way that you don't believe .

I might believe it, what way is that? We both are carbon based lifeforms that have the number of the beast, Carbon - 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons, 666! lol just thought I'd throw that in there. We both have the ability to succeed where ever we want to succeed. Is that what you mean?

 

[Hepheastus420]

I might believe it, what way is that? We both are carbon based lifeforms that have the number of the beast, Carbon - 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons, 666! lol just thought I'd throw that in there. We both have the ability to succeed where ever we want to succeed. Is that what you mean?

I think we're equal in that we aren't products of a higher being.. We don't have a "greater meaning". We are just animals that continue the circle of life. And I'm damn proud of that. My death will lead to another persons life and so will yours. Your knowledge will live on to another human and so will mine. There is no good or any evil.. We create whatever we want and we name it good and evil but WE do that not any other being. In the sense that me AND you create our reality, I believe we are equals.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I might believe it, what way is that? We both are carbon based lifeforms that have the number of the beast, Carbon - 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons, 666! lol just thought I'd throw that in there. We both have the ability to succeed where ever we want to succeed. Is that what you mean?

We also have 2 nostrils, 2 ears, 2 hands and 2 feet! OHHHH SPOOOKY! 2222!!

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

We also have 2 nostrils, 2 ears, 2 hands and 2 feet! OHHHH SPOOOKY! 2222!!

Two balls, two nipples, two eyes, I think your on to something man! =p

 

[Zaehet Strife]

This dude cheif, is a follower of the new age religion of "indigo children" that originated somewhere between 1960's and late 1970's, and just recently since the 2012 mayan prophecy has increased in popularity.

Just google "indigo children" for more information on the beliefs these wacko's hold onto.

Light beings? Really? Comon.... we are animals, no more special than the smallest biological organism, no more special than the smallest atom.

Cheif you are not special... but there (hopefully) will always be people in your life that gives you a sense of being special, but you arent lol, and neither are we.

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

Are you an atheist? Have you learned anything from theists here that makes you wonder?

Are you a theist? Have you learned anything from atheists here that makes you wonder?

...the volleys can't be flying for the sheer 'joy' of it What are you going to take away from these discussions?

(I haven't mentioned the agnostics, if you were to ask me why I'd have to say that "I just don't know" )

Me? I've learned to structure my thinking in a way that I didn't know about before. It's pretty cool.

You?

Good thread eye,I definetly have learned alot from everyone on RIU.I have learned alot more from the atheists/nihilists point of view than the theists,I also learned to diffuse my own fears about what I use to think was real,realizing all things thought of are in the mind first and foremost...something that simple eluded me until i started reading more posts and talking to more people on RIU,thats the truth of it.Then about the overall rationalizing mind of the human being more than anything,what you think,what you believe,and why or even how you could believe.Who ever said you couldnt learn something truely valueble on a stoner website right?

 

[Doer]

Are you an atheist? Have you learned anything from theists here that makes you wonder?

Are you a theist? Have you learned anything from atheists here that makes you wonder?

...the volleys can't be flying for the sheer 'joy' of it What are you going to take away from these discussions?

(I haven't mentioned the agnostics, if you were to ask me why I'd have to say that "I just don't know" )

Me? I've learned to structure my thinking in a way that I didn't know about before. It's pretty cool.

You?

I'm for the sheer joy.

 

[dashcues]

Hey man.Nice idea for a thread.
My 1st post...yeeha!

From reading post after post on this subject,what I've learned is:

1.An atheist logic is as strong as a theist belief.Yin Yang
2.Each side has subjective experiences which strengthen their claims.Moments of doubt or divinity.
3.Neither side relinquishes.
4.Both sides have become paramount advocates of ad-hom attacks and logical fallacies.lol
5.Never toke the haze when trying to reply to these threads.lol

 

[Hepheastus420]

This dude cheif, is a follower of the new age religion of "indigo children" that originated somewhere between 1960's and late 1970's, and just recently since the 2012 mayan prophecy has increased in popularity.

Just google "indigo children" for more information on the beliefs these wacko's hold onto.

Light beings? Really? Comon.... we are animals, no more special than the smallest biological organism, no more special than the smallest atom.

Cheif you are not special... but there (hopefully) will always be people in your life that gives you a sense of being special, but you arent lol, and neither are we.

Well I've always thought that the smallest atom is very special.