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Chief Walkin Eagle

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He asked "Where is the physical evidence that suggests aliens have visited the Earth?" Can you answer that please?
400 year old paintings with pictures of flying saucers in the sky, countless videos and pictures of UFO's, the most convincing ones are the most recent ones, and they are even covered by news stations. But of course, those arent evidence, right? Millions and millions of people were just being fooled by their senses, right? For just ONE of those pictures and videos to be true, it means we are not alone, but thats simply not the case, right?...riiiight.
 

Padawanbater2

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400 year old paintings with pictures of flying saucers in the sky, countless videos and pictures of UFO's, the most convincing ones are the most recent ones, and they are even covered by news stations. But of course, those arent evidence, right? Millions and millions of people were just being fooled by their senses, right? For just ONE of those pictures and videos to be true, it means we are not alone, but thats simply not the case, right?...riiiight.

"400 year old paintings" - why couldn't people who lived 400 years ago paint something nonfictional?

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Why do you assume every picture of what you perceive (based on cultural and societal conditioning I mentioned earlier) to be a UFO is somehow absolute proof of the existence of aliens, and better yet, that they've traversed the void of intergalactic space to come shine some lights in the sky or make crop circles?

"Countless pictures and videos of UFO's" - do you know what Photoshop is? Do you know what 3D Studio Max is? Have you ever seen a major motion picture at any date later than 2000? Why would you assume these images and videos couldn't be fake?

"Even covered by news stations" - ...you know what else news stations cover? Deaths of celebrities. News stations jobs are to gain ratings (viewers), it's not a surprise why there would be countless news stories related to 'UFO's' and absolutely zero physical evidence. In the end, this actually harms the real cause, things like SETI and NASA, it diminishes their credibility because they get lumped in with the crackpots who think every flickering light in the sky is a little green man with big black eyes from outer space. The ignorance is astounding.

"Millions of people could be fooled by their senses" - Yeah, because millions of people are made of exactly the same thing, put together exactly the same way, and are subject to exactly the same every day influences. Big surprise, I know!
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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"400 year old paintings" - why couldn't people who lived 400 years ago paint something nonfictional?

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Why do you assume every picture of what you perceive (based on cultural and societal conditioning I mentioned earlier) to be a UFO is somehow absolute proof of the existence of aliens, and better yet, that they've traversed the void of intergalactic space to come shine some lights in the sky or make crop circles?

"Countless pictures and videos of UFO's" - do you know what Photoshop is? Do you know what 3D Studio Max is? Have you ever seen a major motion picture at any date later than 2000? Why would you assume these images and videos couldn't be fake?

"Even covered by news stations" - ...you know what else news stations cover? Deaths of celebrities. News stations jobs are to gain ratings (viewers), it's not a surprise why there would be countless news stories related to 'UFO's' and absolutely zero physical evidence. In the end, this actually harms the real cause, things like SETI and NASA, it diminishes their credibility because they get lumped in with the crackpots who think every flickering light in the sky is a little green man with big black eyes from outer space. The ignorance is astounding.

"Millions of people could be fooled by their senses" - Yeah, because millions of people are made of exactly the same thing, put together exactly the same way, and are subject to exactly the same every day influences. Big surprise, I know!
Seen this coming lol
 

Hepheastus420

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Seen this coming lol
Do you agree with him? The pics could just be fun drawings. There's plenty of weird carvings out there, it doesn't count as evidence though. If you say "yes it does" or anything like that, you're gonna make me find a ancient carving of a bear horse or some shit. Then I'm gonna ask you if bear horses exist. Don't make me do it lol.

And yeah, news stations showing the vids means absolutely nothing (to me at least). Half the stuff they say isn't true. Like their reincarnation thing is just to get views. So are the UFO vids.
 

Padawanbater2

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Seen this coming lol
Any idiot can make a claim, not everyone can back it up. The 'back it up' part is when people start taking you seriously.

Are you proud/happy to be ignorant of real facts or are you constantly battling inside your own head with your ego because you know what's being put to page here in these posts, and indeed ever since you've been a member, is what's true and you just can't admit it? Why do you see losing the battle inside your head as a weakness? Learning to let go of the ego to understand what's real regardless of personal beliefs is one of the early stages of enlightenment.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Any idiot can make a claim, not everyone can back it up. The 'back it up' part is when people start taking you seriously.

Are you proud/happy to be ignorant of real facts or are you constantly battling inside your own head with your ego because you know what's being put to page here in these posts, and indeed ever since you've been a member, is what's true and you just can't admit it? Why do you see losing the battle inside your head as a weakness? Learning to let go of the ego to understand what's real regardless of personal beliefs is one of the early stages of enlightenment.
lol ego... How ironic... Give it up you angry child.
 

Padawanbater2

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lol ego... How ironic... Give it up you angry child.
Like I said, man, each post is only showing the true colors. Personally, you're the one coming off as angry and offended. I'm typing out thoughtful responses to each irrational point you're making that establish shaky foundations for your beliefs. Like I said before, I'm not seeing any counter points, so that can really only mean one thing...

A sensible men acknowledge mistakes. It's strengthening because it's difficult to do, and, clearly, not everyone can do it.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Like I said, man, each post is only showing the true colors. Personally, you're the one coming off as angry and offended. I'm typing out thoughtful responses to each irrational point you're making that establish shaky foundations for your beliefs. Like I said before, I'm not seeing any counter points, so that can really only mean one thing...

A sensible men acknowledge mistakes. It's strengthening because it's difficult to do, and, clearly, not everyone can do it.
Your arguments can be used against everyone with a supernatural belief, where does that get you? With your point of view, atheistic science will be on top everytime. You are CONVINCED that atheistic science is the only true way. You wont even consider any other possibilities because science will tell you that those possibilities are irrational and simply cant be true, thats how dependent you are on it. "god" could appear out of thin air, fart in your face and say "I told you so!" then vanish and you would still not believe it because you are that thick headed.
 

kpmarine

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Your arguments can be used against everyone with a supernatural belief, where does that get you? With your point of view, atheistic science will be on top everytime. You are CONVINCED that atheistic science is the only true way. You wont even consider any other possibilities because science will tell you that those possibilities are irrational and simply cant be true, thats how dependent you are on it. "god" could appear out of thin air, fart in your face and say "I told you so!" then vanish and you would still not believe it because you are that thick headed.
That would be compelling evidence of a being beyond our current understanding. I doubt Pad would ignore such a momentous event.
 

Padawanbater2

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Your arguments can be used against everyone with a supernatural belief, where does that get you? With your point of view, atheistic science will be on top everytime. You are CONVINCED that atheistic science is the only true way. You wont even consider any other possibilities because science will tell you that those possibilities are irrational and simply cant be true, thats how dependent you are on it. "god" could appear out of thin air, fart in your face and say "I told you so!" then vanish and you would still not believe it because you are that thick headed.
Dismissing supernatural beliefs that can't be verified leaves you with natural beliefs that can. Why would you choose to believe something that could possibly be false in favor of something verifiable true?

There is no such thing as "atheistic science". Two completely separate things. Atheism. Science. There are theistic scientists just like there are everyday regular atheists with no professional training in science.

If it can't be verified using science, it's useless. Name one thing that is useful, even if you aren't sure of its existence.

You are just as dependent on science as I am, you just refuse to admit it while enjoying all of its benefits.

What, in that entire interaction, would lead you to believe such a being is "God" as any organized religion has defined it? Would you simply believe it's "God" just because it told you it was? What if the exact same thing happened, except this time it looked like Mickey Mouse?

If you are to believe any of the organized religions origins, it would take a whole lot more than some being popping into existence, exclaiming it's own divinity, saying it told me so, and vanishing. Any retard that would worship such a being deserves to be shamed back to the realm of crazy.

You strike me as one of those people who would bow down and worship any being you deemed worthy. Be it some species of alien a million times our level of technology, or a guy who can speak 5 broken languages who tells you he can read your mind and you should start a cult together...


Logic'd
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Dismissing supernatural beliefs that can't be verified leaves you with natural beliefs that can. Why would you choose to believe something that could possibly be false in favor of something verifiable true?

There is no such thing as "atheistic science". Two completely separate things. Atheism. Science. There are theistic scientists just like there are everyday regular atheists with no professional training in science.

If it can't be verified using science, it's useless. Name one thing that is useful, even if you aren't sure of its existence.

You are just as dependent on science as I am, you just refuse to admit it while enjoying all of its benefits.

What, in that entire interaction, would lead you to believe such a being is "God" as any organized religion has defined it? Would you simply believe it's "God" just because it told you it was? What if the exact same thing happened, except this time it looked like Mickey Mouse?

If you are to believe any of the organized religions origins, it would take a whole lot more than some being popping into existence, exclaiming it's own divinity, saying it told me so, and vanishing. Any retard that would worship such a being deserves to be shamed back to the realm of crazy.

You strike me as one of those people who would bow down and worship any being you deemed worthy. Be it some species of alien a million times our level of technology, or a guy who can speak 5 broken languages who tells you he can read your mind and you should start a cult together...


Logic'd
LOL worship, oh my, way off. Maybe you should see what Z thinks about me and my beliefs, at least he was kinda close.
 
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