Really? Did you try botanicare, dyna-gro, and Hydroponic-research.com? Because I am looking at my samples from them now..and if you have a nearby hydro store even if you have never gone there you can get some samples of xnutrients line...they are for hydro...but I am starting out coco so perhaps I will give them a shot...they are all such beautiful ocean colors...I mean like super pretty colored liquid and they smell fresh like clean laundry...the labels look cheesy as hell...but I haven't actually tried the nutes themselves, but the liquid is pretty and smells nice, ooohhhh I did try the little bottle of cloner, and uhhh, it's cloner...it works as well as Rootone powder that was old as hell in the back of the garage, and the clonex I bought not long after getting the xnutrients cloner...but now the cloning gel has become pretty cloning water? It is no longer gel, so something is not right with it, but you don't even need cloner, but it doesn't seem as though theirs is quite right...but anyway I ended up getting 3 full sample packs because they send your sample to the hydro store of your choice and instead of addressing the outer box to the store itself they addressed the outer box to me at the hydro store, and inside there were 3 different sample packs with post it notes with the names they were supposed to go to...one for me, and one for someone else, and then another someone else...Anyway after all this I am wary to try their nutes, because frankly it sounds like a pretty Mickey Mouse operation...lol