Getting high ONLY through edibles?

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DickVanDyke

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Forgive me if this comes off as a stupid question, but is this unheard of or extremely uncommon? I feel like its my last resort as for the past year I have suffered from lame ear problems (lots of clear fluid buildup, i'm told its allergies by my physician but who knows, no meds have helped me and I've tried tons) and anytime I inhale cannabis (Smoke or vapor it does not matter, I have a high quality vaporizer/silver surfer setup with a percd bong) it exacerbates it usually 45 min or so after and its really annoying/irritating. I quit smoking 6 months or so ago to try and help the problem but still, even with daily vaporization it irritates and causes a more liquidy feeling which is no good. I really love (i'd say even psychologically addicted) to the act of inhaling something but I feel I can no longer kid myself into thinking I can do it and I will be fine. I do it everyday and its always the same result.
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[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Trebuchet, serif]I really want to be able to buy an ounce and make a big batch of killer edibles, and allow me to medicate 2-3 times, or even more, a week. but I feel like this is an iffy idea because I have heard edibles make your tolerance super high. But even still, I'd love to be able to cut back to only once or a couple times a week instead of daily as I feel it will reduce my tolerance compared to the daily usage i'm now doing. I'm also a little scared seeing as how i'm going to be on the first floor of a NY style apartment (think: hotel) next year and the smell may be an issue...although I can put a crockpot by my door/balcony if need be and put my Silver Surfer vape back to use with its scented oil diffuser to cover any smells.


so yeah...any thoughts?
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dank smoker420

dank smoker420

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you should try making a fire cracker. and see if your ear gets messed up or not. instead of using a ounce to test it out.
 
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DickVanDyke

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dank smoker420 said:
you should try making a fire cracker. and see if your ear gets messed up or not. instead of using a ounce to test it out.
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I have, I've also used an ounce of vaped weed for brownies before. Their is some slight change of feeling but i attribute that to just the effects of weed; its nothing like with inhaling. It really doesn't bother me compared to what inhaling does.
 
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gioua

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The first problem I saw was you using the word HIGH... perhaps you meant medicated... hell I dont get HIGH (really not since I was about 22 when it was the last time the weed made me feel "HIGH" MMJ does npt remove the pain or the problem for many people... it simple allows the person in pain not to THINK about the pain. (other benefits too) but it simple makes me forget I have pain or masks the pain I have for about 1-2 hours or more if using medibles

One of the issues with MMJ is sadly just like the big pharm crap does not work on all people... and some it works too well on (see some of the posters on the board..lol) and some such as myself and a few other normals who post on the cooking forum need a bunch more to get medicated..

I am not a kid who is using the mmj laws to obtain weed... I have suffered from chronic pain for 22 years had all the opiates tossed at me by the dr's and finally said screw it and now I only use MMJ for my issues.

look here is the problem most medible users do not get...

MMJ may or may not work well on you... However if you are willing to test yourself using a few recipes and ideas you may find something that works for you.

I have started with firecrackers then brownies then cookies etc... the best med for me are caps... make some oil then add that to caps I generally take about 10 at a time using 1oz to 1cup oil



pretty sure you have seen this or heard about it

http://ent.about.com/od/pediatricentdisorders/a/Fluid_in_the_Ears.htm

and

http://www.ent.com.au/Smoking page.htm

dont get hooked on big pharm... esp the pain killers
 
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DickVanDyke

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Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the loose use of the term high, I should have clarified in my post; I do use MMJ to get high but also because it has helped curb my severe OCD and Anxiety very well. I consider the high to be very helpful with my issues. When I have made firecrackers, they have worked very well(I also take a lot to get medicated, usually a gram of high grade per firecracker is what I have done when I made them). It was very refreshing to feel what I wanted to without the normal discomfort I feel (although I still get a dried up feeling in my sinuses/ears , but thats easy to put up with because of the relief it gives me from my ear pressure that smoking/vaporizing exacerbates). I think its just taken me awhile to finally realize its much more worthwhile to medicate less frequently with edibles than it is to do vaporize all day everyday and suffer the consequences that inhaling something has on me (I'd like to eat something every couple of days or so, which would be less expensive than the gram I go through a day if I'm vaping). Seeing as how I'm about to have a steady source of income too hopefully it will allow me to experiment more with what I can cook up and I won't have to worry about using up an ounce to create something worthwhile.

And thanks for the links, but you were correct in assuming I've see them haha, the one about smoking is actually what pushed me to completely cut out smoking from my life.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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gioua said:
The first problem I saw was you using the word HIGH... perhaps you meant medicated... hell I dont get HIGH (really not since I was about 22 when it was the last time the weed made me feel "HIGH" MMJ does npt remove the pain or the problem for many people... it simple allows the person in pain not to THINK about the pain. (other benefits too) but it simple makes me forget I have pain or masks the pain I have for about 1-2 hours or more if using medibles

One of the issues with MMJ is sadly just like the big pharm crap does not work on all people... and some it works too well on (see some of the posters on the board..lol) and some such as myself and a few other normals who post on the cooking forum need a bunch more to get medicated..

I am not a kid who is using the mmj laws to obtain weed... I have suffered from chronic pain for 22 years had all the opiates tossed at me by the dr's and finally said screw it and now I only use MMJ for my issues.

look here is the problem most medible users do not get...

MMJ may or may not work well on you... However if you are willing to test yourself using a few recipes and ideas you may find something that works for you.

I have started with firecrackers then brownies then cookies etc... the best med for me are caps... make some oil then add that to caps I generally take about 10 at a time using 1oz to 1cup oil



pretty sure you have seen this or heard about it

http://ent.about.com/od/pediatricentdisorders/a/Fluid_in_the_Ears.htm

and

http://www.ent.com.au/Smoking%20page.htm

dont get hooked on big pharm... esp the pain killers
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Newsflash Captain Arrogant, 99% of cannabis users smoke to get HIGH. There is nothing wrong with getting HIGH, MMJ users like you are the reason cannabis isn't legal for all adults.
 
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gioua

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I think your "99%" stats are a bit HIGH :)

and I never said the HIGH was an evil feeling... Lets look at it from this way...

I need medicine to make it thru the day... I no longer rely on big pharm and a 250$ bill each mo to get my rx...




The OP in the case states he has a MEDICAL issue therefore this is a MEDICAL thread not a HEY LETS ALL SMOKE AND GET WASTED.



my simple minded point being this...


if you want ANYONE else to take this medication seriously.... start taking it that way yourself. (The reason this is legal now is due to good hardworking folks who petioned the courts to have the RIGHT to use the MEDICINE...... not beacuse YOU like to get HIGH) and IMO.. the "HIGH" or medicated effect" is not the same for you and I... if I use it, what it does for me is BLOCK the pain and stop me from thinking about it. I do not get the psycho active effects fully like most kids want...
I understand people are use to the term HIGH or baked or flying or what have you. The perception that people have of POT USERS (medical or rec) is bad.
Take the movie Pineapple Express... or many of the new and old stoner comedies...


WE are played a dim witted unkempt low lifes who do nothing but smoke weed and talk like a coma patient waking up..

wow.. sure the comedic effect is great but the portrayal is pretty far off.. them portraying Cannabis this way is about equal to them saying HEY DONT SMOKE THIS STUFF IT WILL MAKE YOU HOOKED FOR LIFE!


I have 4 kids... a 23 year old (getting married 6-30) f##%$er making me a grampa too :( anyhow a 21 year old a 16 year old girl *back off* and a 11 year old son ALL of whom have seen some of the pot movies and have stated to me... Dad I am soooo glad you dont ACT that way.



*summery for those who are to HIGH to read the above*


If you want to be taken seriously with cannabis... act that way yourself..
 
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gioua

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DickVanDyke said:
Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the loose use of the term high, I should have clarified in my post; I do use MMJ to get high but also because it has helped curb my severe OCD and Anxiety very well. I consider the high to be very helpful with my issues. When I have made firecrackers, they have worked very well(I also take a lot to get medicated, usually a gram of high grade per firecracker is what I have done when I made them). It was very refreshing to feel what I wanted to without the normal discomfort I feel (although I still get a dried up feeling in my sinuses/ears , but thats easy to put up with because of the relief it gives me from my ear pressure that smoking/vaporizing exacerbates). I think its just taken me awhile to finally realize its much more worthwhile to medicate less frequently with edibles than it is to do vaporize all day everyday and suffer the consequences that inhaling something has on me (I'd like to eat something every couple of days or so, which would be less expensive than the gram I go through a day if I'm vaping). Seeing as how I'm about to have a steady source of income too hopefully it will allow me to experiment more with what I can cook up and I won't have to worry about using up an ounce to create something worthwhile.

And thanks for the links, but you were correct in assuming I've see them haha, the one about smoking is actually what pushed me to completely cut out smoking from my life.
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If you can go thru and start to try some of the "odder recipes" that is really how I started.. I was trying to make tinctures, salves, candy capsules you name it I was attempting to make it to see what worked for me.

I personally have a small very common allergic reaction to it... My sinuss swell up I feel like I have a runny nose and watery eyes..I began using some nasal spray and finally a decongestant helped..


btw one thing I have noticed when using "fresh or semi immature plants) is when you use them in a medible the effects I generally get is a bit of energy and some times anxiety and even the jimmy legs.. if you have anxiety issues you may want to stay clear of immature plants if you can..

maybe other have had that effect too from immature plants??
 
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DickVanDyke

Member
gioua said:
If you can go thru and start to try some of the "odder recipes" that is really how I started.. I was trying to make tinctures, salves, candy capsules you name it I was attempting to make it to see what worked for me.

I personally have a small very common allergic reaction to it... My sinuss swell up I feel like I have a runny nose and watery eyes..I began using some nasal spray and finally a decongestant helped..


btw one thing I have noticed when using "fresh or semi immature plants) is when you use them in a medible the effects I generally get is a bit of energy and some times anxiety and even the jimmy legs.. if you have anxiety issues you may want to stay clear of immature plants if you can..

maybe other have had that effect too from immature plants??
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Just a quick question...what decongestant do you find helps? And do you use it daily in conjunction w/ your MMJ use? If its pseduophed, I have long been toying with the idea of starting a daily regiment of it but i'm still kind of iffy. It actually does provide some minor relief, even when vaping/smoking.
 
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gioua

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I did not even put the 2 signs together for almost a year (only been using mmj for 2 years) I started with the "fake pseudoephed" and this did nothing.. tried the real pseudoephed and found it worked but only when I was taking about 4 a day (this caused major dryness in facial skin) moved on to nasal spray from costco got a 4 pack of it for 4.50$ or so.. it's called Kirkland 12 hour spray (works for a solid 4 hours on me) chemical base is oxymetazoline so it has no pseudoephed in it and works majority of the time (if you can stick other things in your nose beside fingers and crayons :) but the best one so far has been the Kirkland (costco) 24 hour alergy d stuff it is a 15 pill pack (here in ca I guess you cant purhase xx amounts of pseudoephed within 30 days so I asked the pharmacy if this is a 15 day supply can I purchase 2 packs for the month so I would not have to come back to get another pack (if needed in 2 weeks) he said that you can only purchase 1 15 day pack per 30 days?? yet oddly when I went back it allowed me to get another pack about 3 weeks later I asked him and he said if it went thru then he will allow it.. so

I use a bit of both now.. nasal (mainly cuz it freaks my 16 yr old out) the 24 hour stuff is my go to if I am going to leave the house... otherwise it's nasal spray
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
gioua said:
I think your "99%" stats are a bit HIGH :)

and I never said the HIGH was an evil feeling... Lets look at it from this way...

I need medicine to make it thru the day... I no longer rely on big pharm and a 250$ bill each mo to get my rx...




The OP in the case states he has a MEDICAL issue therefore this is a MEDICAL thread not a HEY LETS ALL SMOKE AND GET WASTED.



my simple minded point being this...


if you want ANYONE else to take this medication seriously.... start taking it that way yourself. (The reason this is legal now is due to good hardworking folks who petioned the courts to have the RIGHT to use the MEDICINE...... not beacuse YOU like to get HIGH) and IMO.. the "HIGH" or medicated effect" is not the same for you and I... if I use it, what it does for me is BLOCK the pain and stop me from thinking about it. I do not get the psycho active effects fully like most kids want...
I understand people are use to the term HIGH or baked or flying or what have you. The perception that people have of POT USERS (medical or rec) is bad.
Take the movie Pineapple Express... or many of the new and old stoner comedies...


WE are played a dim witted unkempt low lifes who do nothing but smoke weed and talk like a coma patient waking up..

wow.. sure the comedic effect is great but the portrayal is pretty far off.. them portraying Cannabis this way is about equal to them saying HEY DONT SMOKE THIS STUFF IT WILL MAKE YOU HOOKED FOR LIFE!


I have 4 kids... a 23 year old (getting married 6-30) f##%$er making me a grampa too :( anyhow a 21 year old a 16 year old girl *back off* and a 11 year old son ALL of whom have seen some of the pot movies and have stated to me... Dad I am soooo glad you dont ACT that way.



*summery for those who are to HIGH to read the above*


If you want to be taken seriously with cannabis... act that way yourself..
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"Medical Cannabis" only really exists in North America...the overwhelming majority of us worldwide smoke to get high.

Who cares why people smoke? The point is its none of yours, or anyone else's business why in my home I smoke the plant that I grow myself in my house.

Until PEOPLE LIKE YOU change their attitude cannabis will never be legal, it's sad to say but the legalisation efforts biggest enemy is from within by arrogant medical users (like you) and by the MMJ Dealers who are afraid of losing their profits.

If you're totally uninterested in getting high and are purely (arrogantly) about the "medicinal effort", use Sativex and leave the rest of us "dumb stoners" to smoke our plant.
 
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DickVanDyke

Member
Harrekin said:
"Medical Cannabis" only really exists in North America...the overwhelming majority of us worldwide smoke to get high.

Who cares why people smoke? The point is its none of yours, or anyone else's business why in my home I smoke the plant that I grow myself in my house.

Until PEOPLE LIKE YOU change their attitude cannabis will never be legal, it's sad to say but the legalisation efforts biggest enemy is from within by arrogant medical users (like you) and by the MMJ Dealers who are afraid of losing their profits.

If you're totally uninterested in getting high and are purely (arrogantly) about the "medicinal effort", use Sativex and leave the rest of us "dumb stoners" to smoke our plant.
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Can we please not turn my thread into a bickering match about who is right or wrong? I'm pretty sure its not your type of peoples fault or giouas type of peoples fault for the reason cannabis is still illegal :wall:
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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sunni said:
keeep it cool guys.
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Sorry, just delete my posts, its just I take issue with MMJ users who talk down us normal "users" when in reality we're the VAST majority and realistically the only path to legalisation. Who cares why people smoke/munch on edibles? It's the attitude that recreational use is a sin that's the problem.
 
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