Reservation Land/Indian Land

achiever420

Member
I am planning a trip which will take me through the reservation during part of it and was doing some research and found this unfortunate information. I thought I would pass it along. The scary thing about this is that I don't think most people realize they are on Indian Land when there driving on the Loop 101 in town. I think there are parts of the I-10 south that go through Indian Land. I think its ridiculous but not surprising that they will sieze your car for a bag of pot or even a roach or seed if they want to.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/01/medical-marijuana_law_doesnt_a.php

"Under Arizona's
Medical Marijuana Act
, motorists with state-issued pot cards can legally transport a small amount of "medicine" in their vehicles -- but not on tribal lands.

And those Native American lands include a
strip of the Loop 101 freeway
that runs from south of McKellips Road to the Pima Road/90th Street exit.

A qualified patient told us he was recently stopped for "no reason" on the 101 by a cop working for the
Salt River Maricopa-Pima Indian Community
, and that his car was seized by the tribe after a few grams of pot was found.

Valarie Tom, a spokeswoman for the SRP-MIC, wouldn't comment on any specific bust. But she does confirm that medical-marijuana registration cards don't apply on that stretch of the 101, or anywhere else on tribal lands, for that matter.

In other words, if you're passing through Indian Country, leave the bud at home -- whether or not you're legal under state law.One difference between, say, Cibecue and the Salt River tribe though, is that the home ofCasino Arizona borders a major urban area and has a heavily used freeway running through it.Tom says she consulted with Tribal President Diane Enos for our question about seized vehicles."People who transport drugs in any jurisdiction face the possibility that they will be arrested, prosecuted, and that the vehicles they use to transport drugs may be seized," reads a written statement from the tribe. (Full text below.)Our intrepid source who accidentally tripped this minefield says he's had a heck of a time getting the car back, even though it belongs to his father. We're withholding his name by his request.

He says the officer who pulled him over informed him that his reverse lights were stuck on.
"They weren't," he says.The officer claimed he could smell marijuana in the car, and the motorist confessed to having some pot. He showed the officer his medical-marijuana registration card -- to no avail.As former Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke reminded the state back in May, the feds have exclusive control over drug crimes on reservations.The Salt River police officer wrote him a repair order for the reverse lights -- then seized the car.J.R. Packhorse, a law specialist who helps defend people in tribal court, tells New Timesour source's story isn't unusual.In another case on the Salt River res, though not on the freeway, "I had a man who lost a brand-new Denali for a roach and two seeds," Packhorse says. "I lost. They kept it."Packhorse, a Ponca, says the tribe runs a fair court, in general, despite such incidents.Our unnamed source says he learned this morning that the tribe will release the car to his dad based on an "innocent bystander" provision."They're making him fly out here to get the car," he says.The state's 18,000 medical marijuana patients may want to consider the scenery on the State Route 51.Below, the SRP-MIC's statement:
The Salt River Police Department, like all law enforcement agencies, takes appropriate actions with regard to drug offenses. People who transport drugs in any jurisdiction face the possibility that they will be arrested, prosecuted, and that the vehicles they use to transport drugs may be seized.As the U.S. Attorney's office made clear in its May 2, 2011 letter to the Arizona Department of Health Services, Arizona law including the Arizona Medical Marijuana Act, does not apply to Indian Country. The Community will therefore continue to enforce tribal and federal laws as they apply to drug offenses. While the Community has no desire to interfere with individuals' exercise of their rights under Arizona law, given that the Arizona Medical Marijuana Act has not been fully implemented, it does not appear that drivers within the Community, including those traveling on state or federal rights of way, have the legal authority to possess marijuana within the exterior boundaries of the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community."
 

kermit2692

Well-Known Member
appropriate actions my ass!! a roach and two seeds and you lose your car.....wait it says the reserves are still bound by federal law?? well then i call this a violation of my 8th ammendment rights!!!!! for you less educated pot heads the 8th ammendment guarantees you against cruel and unusual punishment...
 

achiever420

Member
Yes it is certainly disheartening to know that you risk losing your car and property over a small amount of weed. Those federal laws were enacted to disrupt large scale drug cartels not to take property from people who are caught with small amounts of weed for personal use. I will certainly think twice about driving through the res with anything in my possession. Even the feds aren't going this far against individual users. I guess we can't really blame the Tribes for taking advantage of the law they did get the short end of the stick over the course of history. Just be cognizant of when your on Tribal Land and Federal Land/Property. Hopefully sooner or later someone with some sense will come along and change the Fedral mmj laws to be more in line with popular opinion. I'm not holding my breath though to many people earn there living off the war on drugs.
 

achiever420

Member
KAL

I wondered what would happen if you just drove until you were off the res and didn't pull over. I can't imagine DPS wants the tribal police messing around in there jurisdiction.
 

KAL EL

Well-Known Member
Even if you are on 101 and exit into scottsdale, I don't think they could do anything then.
 

kermit2692

Well-Known Member
haha ya they would probably have to turn the chase over and if noone is around to take it then they would probably be sol!
 

IVIars

Active Member
Yeah I would just stay away from the Indian land, they basically can do whatever they want..
what he said

They will do whatever they want and aren't too fond of white people. Don't get me wrong, there are some that are great people with a lot of knowledge and cool stories. I've lived around them in Mojave Valley, and work around them in Page at the Navajo Generating Station, and Tucson at the new Pascua Yaquii casino. They are all the same towards Caucasians. They have a major substance abuse problem, which is why they will never allow a dispensary, or accept any law criminalizing marijuana. Just stay away

they will still pull you over off their land for a crime committed on it.

btw some of the navajos up at the power plant in page knew I smoked daily and didn't give a shit. They ain't all bad
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
The Native's only like ICP ....lol

Ivars is right they will do whatever they want, and if they catch you hunting on their land... Forget about it!! We cant do anything about the tribal lands just learn to live with it and if you are one of those stoners that has to have tree's on him 24/7 just dont go anywhere near the Casinos or Tribal land.
 

achiever420

Member
Yeah living in the east valley I drive the 101 occasionally and I just think its bunk they would confiscate your vehicle over a small amount of pot. I don't think that you would be prosecuted criminally or anything I believe they would be required to pass it off to the Feds (if your not a tribe member) who not likely prosecute you for a small amount but they would still keep your vehicle and auction it off. Horseshit!!!!
 

TogTokes

Well-Known Member
Don't be stupid and leave pot.. Just shove it up your ass and don't fart/shit tell they leave.. Keep the car and the weed.
 

superstoner1

Well-Known Member
damn, i grew up there in the 80's and it was the same then. and going out to tube the salt river the bastards would always try to take our beer.
 

Sparky602

Member
I live in maricopa...and we are surrounded on all sides either by gila river or ak chin.its amusing on the 347 where depending upon where your at you can have 4 different agencys at the same time maricopa pd, pinal county sheriff, dps, and gila river police...gila river being the most ruthless of them all...
 

HB DC

Active Member
Indian land is sovereign from the rest of us...

Whats shitty about this is they turn you over to the US Marshals office if busted or any Federal agency (not state). AzMMA does not exist on Indian Land. The make their own laws!

Good luck!

My friend got pulled over for DUI - car was taken NEVER given back.
 
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