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Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
I'm not too concerned about getting this knowledge out there ASAP. I do realize the benefits but Im confident that this knowledge will be made public soon enough without his help.
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I don't believe you, and this is another BS excuse.

"Don't worry guys soon everyone will have telekinetic powers! You'll see! You'll see..."
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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mindphuk said:
Still dancing and spinning I see. Revisionist history and obvious inability to grasp what I was trying to explain.
I did not watch the video and focus on one part. If you recall, YOU made a claim in a post and I asked you to support it and you used the video as your support. When I did the same calculations, the exact same math, on the exact same pyramid (not an incomplete one) that the anonymous pyramid 'expert' performed, I got a value that was different from the speed of light by MAGNITUDES. Basically, they lied to you in the video and the only retort you had was that I should watch the whole thing. When I asked you why it was so important to watch the whole thing after I caught them in sheer dishonesty, you began to talk about all of the other parallels and connections to other places on earth. I told you I would be willing to discuss those other things once you acknowledged the fact that they were lying about the speed of light claim or show me where my math was wrong. I asked you that if they were dishonest in one part, why would I expect the rest of he video to be truthful? You dodged and danced splendidly while ignoring every point I made up until this day where you misrepresent what I found.

The lesson I got from our exchange is that you are not interested in truth and you are disingenuous in your dialogue with skeptics like me.
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afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Zaehet Strife said:
I don't believe you, and this is another BS excuse.

"Don't worry guys soon everyone will have telekinetic powers! You'll see! You'll see..."
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Calm down, Z. Chief's playing make believe. Like Mr. Rogers.


Sorry Chief, but it's been my experience that all Magic is for prophet ;)

I'll open your mind to the hidden truths of the universe..For $40.00! Cash, Master Card, Visa, American Express. :hug:
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
And Im not making excuses, I want you to come down here, it would be awesome seeing your reaction lol
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I live in California, if I visited Canada, I'd be going UP there, I have a friend that says the same thing, he lives in northern CA I live in southern, he says "I'm gonna come up there to hang out"

And what would that do, I'd get there, he'd say he doesn't feel like doing the trick or whatever..

Now you have to ask yourself the big question..

Why? Why would he be so apprehensive about showing somebody else his ability? Doesn't that strike you as a little bit odd? If you had the same ability, essentially, telekinesis, wouldn't you want to show that? The first thing I would do is go to my closest state University and prove I could do it, second place would be to James Randi's house to collect my check. After that, you'd be an international sensation, and probably live out the rest of your days veeeeeery comfortably around a lot of beautiful women whose mind's you could read.

...Let me think about that one for a second....
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Padawanbater2 said:
I live in California, if I visited Canada, I'd be going UP there, I have a friend that says the same thing, he lives in northern CA I live in southern, he says "I'm gonna come up there to hang out"

And what would that do, I'd get there, he'd say he doesn't feel like doing the trick or whatever..

Now you have to ask yourself the big question..

Why? Why would he be so apprehensive about showing somebody else his ability? Doesn't that strike you as a little bit odd? If you had the same ability, essentially, telekinesis, wouldn't you want to show that? The first thing I would do is go to my closest state University and prove I could do it, second place would be to James Randi's house to collect my check. After that, you'd be an international sensation, and probably live out the rest of your days veeeeeery comfortably around a lot of beautiful women whose mind's you could read.

...Let me think about that one for a second....
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You act like Im the only one he performed these things in front of. ALL of his close friends knows what he can do, they all experienced it, his mind reading at least.

Those are egotistic motives, sure they'll help some people but your description just seems like self centered recognition and greed, not something Buddha would do =p.

Im sure he'll read your mind, he doesnt perform his abilities on demand for those that are skeptical, that only happend once with his reluctant friend that now knows of what he can do. Even when I was saying "BULLSHIT!" to him at first, he felt no need to prove me wrong for cheap showmanship. It was only after I started to respect him more that he first shown me. I thought he was crazy for the longest time but still acknowledged he had a good amount of knowledge on spirituality, I didnt even consider myself spiritual at the time, what he said just made sense. Then he read my mind and everyone else's mind and did a few other things that convinced me a lot of what he talks about must be the truth.

(edit) Since you came from another country for the soul reason to see what he can do, Im sure he'll do his "trick"... He might have to like ya first though, he can sense disrespect.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
You act like Im the only one he performed these things in front of. ALL of his close friends knows what he can do, they all experienced it, his mind reading at least.

Those are egotistic motives, sure they'll help some people but your description just seems like self centered recognition and greed, not something Buddha would do =p.

Im sure he'll read your mind, he doesnt perform his abilities on demand for those that are skeptical, that only happend once with his reluctant friend that now knows of what he can do. Even when I was saying "BULLSHIT!" to him at first, he felt no need to prove me wrong for cheap showmanship. It was only after I started to respect him more that he first shown me. I thought he was crazy for the longest time but still acknowledged he had a good amount of knowledge on spirituality, I didnt even consider myself spiritual at the time, what he said just made sense. Then he read my mind and everyone else's mind and did a few other things that convinced me a lot of what he talks about must be the truth.

(edit) Since you came from another country for the soul reason to see what he can do, Im sure he'll do his "trick"... He might have to like ya first though, he can sense disrespect.
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Could you get one of your mutual friends to corroborate the story if the original friend is unwilling?

OK, egotistical, then what about donating the winning prize money to cancer research or WWF? Isn't that completely selfless? Exactly what Buddha or Jesus would praise? Giving to the less fortunate?


What would it take to convince you that he doesn't have this ability?
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Padawanbater2 said:
Could you get one of your mutual friends to corroborate the story if the original friend is unwilling?

OK, egotistical, then what about donating the winning prize money to cancer research or WWF? Isn't that completely selfless? Exactly what Buddha or Jesus would praise? Giving to the less fortunate?


What would it take to convince you that he doesn't have this ability?
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Probably not man, his friends seem like they are scared of it because they cant comprehend it. They are the "IDGAF, lets party!" kinda kids, so I doubt they'll take time explaining a detailed story to someone they dont know on the internet.

Fuck the pharmaceutical companies and their cancer scam, they want people sick. Theres already cheap treatments out there that work but they just wanna patent a new expensive pill so they can make money off it.

Him not willing to take a million dollar challenge and show his abilities to scientists to confirm his abilities is supposed to convince me that he doesnt have these abilities? The only thing that would convince me that hes a phony is if I went back in time when no one experienced what he can do and thought he was crazy.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
Probably not man, his friends seem like they are scared of it because they cant comprehend it. They are the "IDGAF, lets party!" kinda kids, so I doubt they'll take time explaining a detailed story to someone they dont know on the internet.

Fuck the pharmaceutical companies and their cancer scam, they want people sick. Theres already cheap treatments out there that work but they just wanna patent a new expensive pill so they can make money off it.

Him not willing to take a million dollar challenge and show his abilities to scientists to confirm his abilities is supposed to convince me that he doesnt have these abilities? The only thing that would convince me that hes a phony is if I went back in time when no one experienced what he can do and thought he was crazy.
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What if he was willing and I set up an experiment to see if his abilities could be measured. What I'm saying is if nothing was measured, or he said he couldn't do it for whatever reason, would that convince you that he doesn't have the ability? If not, what would? "going back in time" is irrational given the state of our technology, you might as well be saying "nothing can convince me" and if that's the case, what would be the point of any kind of experiment? You're going to believe what you want to believer regardless of the results.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Padawanbater2 said:
What if he was willing and I set up an experiment to see if his abilities could be measured. What I'm saying is if nothing was measured, or he said he couldn't do it for whatever reason, would that convince you that he doesn't have the ability? If not, what would? "going back in time" is irrational given the state of our technology, you might as well be saying "nothing can convince me" and if that's the case, what would be the point of any kind of experiment? You're going to believe what you want to believer regardless of the results.
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Measure it? what do you mean? The experiment Im thinking about would last under a minute, you'd have a conversation and then he'd read your mind multiple times. So after he read your mind multiple times and after you agree that he stated what you were thinking of multiple times, you'd still need a scientific device to measure what hes doing for you to believe whats going on? ... And yes, thank you for stating the obvious with the going back in time reference lol.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
Measure it? what do you mean? The experiment Im thinking about would last under a minute, you'd have a conversation and then he'd read your mind multiple times. So after he read your mind multiple times and after you agree that he stated what you were thinking of multiple times, you'd still need a scientific device to measure what hes doing for you to believe whats going on? ... And yes, thank you for stating the obvious with the going back in time reference lol.
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If I set up a controlled experiment where I'm holding a deck of 52 cards, if he guessed which card I was looking at and transmitting via telepathy, if he did that correctly 52 times, I would conclude you're right and he actually has the ability, 30-40 cards I'd say there's a really strong possibility there is something else there other than 'luck' or 'coincidence', anything less than 15-20 I'd say is luck. Statistics would say at random, out of 52 cards, a person should guess < 1 correctly, given that there are a total of 13 possibilities for each card, and 52 possible attempts, but making that kind of claim I would hold a higher standard of proof. Keep in mind, you're not saying "he can do it half the time" or "he can do it a quarter of the time", because if that was the case, it wouldn't be anything special.

 
Chief Walkin Eagle

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Padawanbater2 said:
If I set up a controlled experiment where I'm holding a deck of 52 cards, if he guessed which card I was looking at and transmitting via telepathy, if he did that correctly 52 times, I would conclude you're right and he actually has the ability, 30-40 cards I'd say there's a really strong possibility there is something else there other than 'luck' or 'coincidence', anything less than 15-20 I'd say is luck. Statistics would say at random, out of 52 cards, a person should guess < 1 correctly, given that there are a total of 13 possibilities for each card, and 52 possible attempts, but making that kind of claim I would hold a higher standard of proof. Keep in mind, you're not saying "he can do it half the time" or "he can do it a quarter of the time", because if that was the case, it wouldn't be anything special.

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Why make him jump through hoops? Why not just stay silent and think about specific questions that require specific answers? It save a lot of time.
 
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