My Grows just ain't working...

Pharoah

Active Member
Max, I don't want the extra, I'm willing to pay for my 18g/day as long as anything over and above is destroyed.

In other words, I WILL not tolerate someone charging me any amount for my 18g/day, if their going to take anything over my 18/day, and sell it on the black market, or to compassion clubs.

I'm going to try to word this as many ways as possible, so you actually understand what I'm saying.

I do not want more than my amount, and if the DG is supplying ONLY ME with my 18g/day, then I WILL pay for it.

If the DG is selling me 18g/day (Key word, selling) then turning around, and selling anything over and above what their selling to me, to other people (again, key word, selling) then I'm not ok with that.

I would MUCH prefer the first option, where I pay a agreed price, one that doesn't have them earning 400% profit, than any other option...


Where your getting your conclusions from Max, I have no clue...

In addition, the 88 plants that could be grown under my license is WAAAAY more than enough to produce my montly supply... unless you havn't been able to pull off anymore than an oz of a plant.

Look at some of these guys grows, some are capable of getting 1lb off 1 plant. Lets do the math shall we?? We'll even be generous.

350g/plant * 88 plants = 30800 or 68.75 lb's, that JUST 1 cycle, should they have the lights and setup to do so.



This is my point right here, they provide me with my 19.2857 oz's per month, which works out to 57.85 oz's, or 3.61 over a 3 month timeframe (new cop ready to harvest)


Maybe I'm just to paranoid... I'm not sure, I often think the worst of people, but give me a break, look around at the world today... Not like I've never been fucked over before... by most people I've met.
 

RawBudzski

Well-Known Member
What is several months?? It takes several months just to get through 1 grow.. so you're on round 1-2? Still learning, wait until you hit 3 years still tryna perfect your grow.
 

RawBudzski

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Max, I don't want the extra, I'm willing to pay for my 18g/day as long as anything over and above is destroyed.

In other words, I WILL not tolerate someone charging me any amount for my 18g/day, if their going to take anything over my 18/day, and sell it on the black market, or to compassion clubs.

I'm going to try to word this as many ways as possible, so you actually understand what I'm saying.

I do not want more than my amount, and if the DG is supplying ONLY ME with my 18g/day, then I WILL pay for it.

If the DG is selling me 18g/day (Key word, selling) then turning around, and selling anything over and above what their selling to me, to other people (again, key word, selling) then I'm not ok with that.

I would MUCH prefer the first option, where I pay a agreed price, one that doesn't have them earning 400% profit, than any other option...


Where your getting your conclusions from Max, I have no clue...

What other people do with your meds after you give it to them is none of your business. If they went & charged twice as much that is their problem not yours.
 

missnu

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Here is the issue I have with all this...
Whoever is growing the plants controls the weed...if you allow me to grow 80 plants because that is how many you yourself can grow that doesn't make them your plants...You want someone to give you all the pot you want in exchange for having paperwork for 80+ plants...which is all fine and good...but if you don't get someone else to grow for you you know how many plants are yours...? As many as you grow...so whether the grower grows 94 plants with only 80 of them being yours doesn't matter...you figure out how much smoke you actually need and then pay per monthly, or on pickup...You tried growing and failed...we all grow for the low cost pot...so...you have to pay the same price as other people that can't grow it themselves for some reason or other...
 

missnu

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What is several months?? It takes several months just to get through 1 grow.. so you're on round 1-2? Still learning, wait until you hit 3 years still tryna perfect your grow.
Hell, I've been growing more than 3 years and still not got it just right...not done trying things.
 

JJFOURTWENTY

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OP needs to give BC Northern Lights in Canada a call. Given a couple of grand I'm sure they'll be more than happy to help him out.
 

maximum

Active Member
Hell, I've been growing more than 3 years and still not got it just right...not done trying things.
Exactly man. I walk through my grow room and I look at photos of my first grow and its like amazing how different it was back then. Just my standards alone have improved. And you know what, every time I look back at my last grow Im thinking, fuck I should have..... So when you said 3 years growing and its just not right still, yea it really hit home with me too.

Pharoh, "350g/plant * 88 plants = 30800 or 68.75 lb'"

Ok 350grams a plant. Those are big plants. So 2 per 1000 watt light. Now do the math properly. Someone will have to setup a grow room from scratch to meet those needs. (sorry I dont have an extra 40,000 watt grow room sitting idle for no reason) Do you know what that will cost? I spent $5k on my last grow room which holds 4 x 1000 lights and 8 plants. That includes structural costs. A 4x4 tent in most magazines I see them growing for $1000 loaded with lights and whatever else. Thats two plants for you Pharoh. So Pharoh calculate the costs of someone setting up a grow room with about 40 fucken 1,000watt lights so you can get your 350 grams each like you said. And you know, my numbers as an indoor grower and missnu and everyone else growing indoors if they are have different costs. We setup differently. Half a dozen hydroponic styles alone. Outdoor in a greenhouse is your best bet. But back to indoors. 40 lights will cost you $4k just lights. So how much you going to pay for a room that runs 40 lights carbon filters, fans, water, nutes, extra little shit that you need to run to the fucken home dopot for constantly. And your license is good for ONE year. So how much is your per gram price now? Your asking for a lot more than someone watering a few plants. The labor alone to construct a 40 light room would cost you thousands if you can't do it yourself.

PS 40 1000 watt lights running 18 hours a day will cost you minimum $1700 a month. So you can you afford to grow it yourself? No. And nobody can afford to hand it to you. Take the $5/gram and be happy. If you want the grower to prove he isnt selling, you do the same. Buckets would run you over $1000 easily too. So shit adds up fast.

Pharoh if I misjudged you I apologize for being harsh with my tone. As a grower I found your comments offensive.
 

Pharoah

Active Member
you guys aren't even worth a coherent response, since you all seem to ignore what's read, and pretend to understand anything at all anyone says, so I'll just ramble like a 1 year old.. maybe then you guys might pick something up.

Rabble rabble rabble, buuuurf tak tak mummmma, pfffft nya nya
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Exactly man. I walk through my grow room and I look at photos of my first grow and its like amazing how different it was back then. Just my standards alone have improved. And you know what, every time I look back at my last grow Im thinking, fuck I should have..... So when you said 3 years growing and its just not right still, yea it really hit home with me too.

Pharoh, "350g/plant * 88 plants = 30800 or 68.75 lb'"

Ok 350grams a plant. Those are big plants. So 2 per 1000 watt light. Now do the math properly. Someone will have to setup a grow room from scratch to meet those needs. (sorry I dont have an extra 40,000 watt grow room sitting idle for no reason) Do you know what that will cost? I spent $5k on my last grow room which holds 4 x 1000 lights and 8 plants. That includes structural costs. A 4x4 tent in most magazines I see them growing for $1000 loaded with lights and whatever else. Thats two plants for you Pharoh. So Pharoh calculate the costs of someone setting up a grow room with about 40 fucken 1,000watt lights so you can get your 350 grams each like you said. And you know, my numbers as an indoor grower and missnu and everyone else growing indoors if they are have different costs. We setup differently. Half a dozen hydroponic styles alone. Outdoor in a greenhouse is your best bet. But back to indoors. 40 lights will cost you $4k just lights. So how much you going to pay for a room that runs 40 lights carbon filters, fans, water, nutes, extra little shit that you need to run to the fucken home dopot for constantly. And your license is good for ONE year. So how much is your per gram price now? Your asking for a lot more than someone watering a few plants. The labor alone to construct a 40 light room would cost you thousands if you can't do it yourself.

PS 40 1000 watt lights running 18 hours a day will cost you minimum $1700 a month. So you can you afford to grow it yourself? No. And nobody can afford to hand it to you. Take the $5/gram and be happy. If you want the grower to prove he isnt selling, you do the same. Buckets would run you over $1000 easily too. So shit adds up fast.

Pharoh if I misjudged you I apologize for being harsh with my tone. As a grower I found your comments offensive.
$4k for 40 1k lamps?? i want to know where you shop at, lol.. that's only $100 per, that's bulbs, ballasts, hoods, chords, etc... i think you'd be looking at closer to $4oo or $5oo per lamp, then times that by 40.. that's closer to $20,000 in just lights and ballasts and bulbs.. i'm sure you cuold get them a bit cheaper if you were buying 40 at a shot, but still no where near the 4k you said, that's just crazy cheap...

and 350 per plant?? i guess you could pull those kinda numbers under a 1k if you ran 2 plants per like you said, but someone just getting started surely isn't going to get any where near those numbers, my god, lol..
then electricity alone.. say only flowering, 12 hours a day, 30 days a week, 40000 watts, @ lets say $.15 a kw/h... let me do some math here.. that comes out to around $2100 per month just on electric.. jesu...

if i found someone offering me 18 grams a day @ $5 per, i'd kiss them on the lips.. i've been smoking over 20 years as well, but i'll be damn if i smoke any where near 18 grams a day.. holy shit, that's over a half an ounce a day.. that's pretty much chain smoking blunt after blunt after blunt all day long... that's a lot of weed to be smoking, i don't even know if snoop dog smokes that much, lol..
idk man, i try not to judge, but this dude seems to have his head up in the clouds... must be from those 18 grams a day, lol.. :)
 

Pharoah

Active Member
And yet again, if it's not flat out ignoring what people say, it's putting shit in peoples mouths..

Never once did I EVER say I SMOKED 18g/day...

I consume it in a number of ways, one of which I'm going to be trying is juicing... check the RAW PLANT MATTER requirements for things such as making baked goods, or juicing.
 

kpmarine

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So, you would be okay with someone keeping all of it over your 18g a day, provided they don't charge you for the weed they grow for you?
 

Pharoah

Active Member
Like I said, I would much rather work out something that would be both reasonable for myself, and for them, provided they were to supply only me with my 18/day, and some for themselves for personal use of course.

I've said right from scratch, that should they keep anything over my 18/day, and sell it on the black market, or to compassion clubs for near street, or street prices, then I don't see why they should be charging me anything.

Everyone keeps blowing everything I say WAAY out of proportion, putting words in my mouth, or just flat out ignoring parts of what I say, so they can try to come off as intelligible by focusing on bits and pieces.

I realize that the likely hood of finding someone who's ok with growing, not to earn a living, but to recover cost's, and get a few extra bucks a month, is slim to none, I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm simply saying that the bulk of the ones who do it for the love of doing it are already doing it for the maximum number of people they can do it for already.

I'm trying to play by the rules here, completely and entirely, these guys are trying to make it sound like I'm looking for someone to grow ONLY my 18/day, AND giving it to me for free, which is absolutely absurd, and is proof that they pick small bits of what I say, ignoring the rest, as I've never once said that should I find a person that's willing to grow only my 18/day, that I expect them to do it for free...
 

FootballFirst

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I consume it in a number of ways, one of which I'm going to be trying is juicing... check the RAW PLANT MATTER requirements for things such as making baked goods, or juicing.
Ahahahahahahaha! juicing weed!!!!!! you are a sod. ahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 

kpmarine

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Like I said, I would much rather work out something that would be both reasonable for myself, and for them, provided they were to supply only me with my 18/day, and some for themselves for personal use of course.

I've said right from scratch, that should they keep anything over my 18/day, and sell it on the black market, or to compassion clubs for near street, or street prices, then I don't see why they should be charging me anything.

Everyone keeps blowing everything I say WAAY out of proportion, putting words in my mouth, or just flat out ignoring parts of what I say, so they can try to come off as intelligible by focusing on bits and pieces.

I realize that the likely hood of finding someone who's ok with growing, not to earn a living, but to recover cost's, and get a few extra bucks a month, is slim to none, I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm simply saying that the bulk of the ones who do it for the love of doing it are already doing it for the maximum number of people they can do it for already.

I'm trying to play by the rules here, completely and entirely, these guys are trying to make it sound like I'm looking for someone to grow ONLY my 18/day, AND giving it to me for free, which is absolutely absurd, and is proof that they pick small bits of what I say, ignoring the rest, as I've never once said that should I find a person that's willing to grow only my 18/day, that I expect them to do it for free...
The problem is, you mentioned growing out your plant limit. I think that's what generated the confusion. The issue you're going to encounter is that nobody that has a setup of the magnitude to flower your plant limit is in need of "personal use" weed. They are already growing their own. If I had the extra room to flower 88+ plants of yours, my personal smoke should be well covered. At $5 a gram, assuming he's just growing for you and himself, you are getting super, super wholesale for top shelf. To be honest though, the guy I know who grows for other people just agrees on a split with them. I think his is a 70 him/30 them split, and no money charged. Keep in mind, people come to him for that deal. He doesn't seek patients out. If you were willing to let someone use your plant numbers, and just provide you with the meds you need, you might have some better luck. To be honest, nobody is going to grow your plants for you, and then toss perfectly good product. You may find someone agreeable to that (I hope you do.), but it's a long shot.
 

nitrobob1786

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basically the dude just dont want the grower SELLING him his 18 gram a day then selling any of the extra bud from his 90 plant crop on the streets/blackmarket i think thats what im getting from this thread i jus think pharoh is maybe wording it the wrong way or is a troll magnet lol noi serious the way u typed it dwn sounded like u are trying to put a lot of conditions on the way somebody helps u out which jus sounds bitchy thats why u got peeps actin like that G
 
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