Whats your opinion on immigration??

MellowFarmer

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It's not a drug its a plant it just grows like that and if you should just happen to set in on fire there are some affects.
That's not a drug. Drugs you got to do chemical shit add baking soda stir it up I don't know the recipe I'm just sayin
-Katt
 

Shannon Alexander

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Its classified as a drug by the people that lie about its medical benefits and want it to stay illegal. You really want to side with them?
I don't side with people... I look at what is around me and decide on what is the truth or not to me... I live in my world...

And THC and CBD etc... (I can't remember the other ones) are drugs... same way as paracetamol is a drug... same way as morphine is a drug...

The question I would like to ask you Kaendar before this discussion potentially derails and becomes meaningless is, Why do you consider the word drug to have negative connotations..?
 

Kaendar

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I don't side with people... I look at what is around me and decide on what is the truth or not to me... I live in my world...

And THC and CBD etc... (I can't remember the other ones) are drugs... same way as paracetamol is a drug... same way as morphine is a drug...

The question I would like to ask you Kaendar before this discussion potentially derails and becomes meaningless is, Why do you consider the word drug to have negative connotations..?
I dont, I just dont like cannabis to be in that category. For me, a drug is something that has been altered from its original state by a human. Dude, cocaine comes from plants, but shit has to be processed and chemicals introduced to make it a drug.
 

Hepheastus420

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It's not a drug its a plant it just grows like that and if you should just happen to set in on fire there are some affects.
That's not a drug. Drugs you got to do chemical shit add baking soda stir it up I don't know the recipe I'm just sayin
-Katt
Ahhh but it is a drug.. A natural drug but still.
 

Hepheastus420

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I dont, I just dont like cannabis to be in that category. For me, a drug is something that has been altered from its original state by a human. Dude, cocaine comes from plants, but shit has to be processed and chemicals introduced to make it a drug.
Opium is natural.. Do you consider opium a drug? Do you consider DMT or shrooms a drug? Face it, cannabis is a drug.
 

Shannon Alexander

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I dont, I just dont like cannabis to be in that category. For me, a drug is something that has been altered from its original state by a human. Dude, cocaine comes from plants, but shit has to be processed and chemicals introduced to make it a drug.
And you don't use any chemical reactions to get high or use it as a medicine..?

You realize applying heat to cannabis put's the Cannabis through a chemical change to make it psychoactive... You still put it through a chemical process to get the results you are after... so by your definition then it is a drug...
 

Kaendar

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Opium is natural.. Do you consider opium a drug? Do you consider DMT or shrooms a drug? Face it, cannabis is a drug.
Yea those are drugs. Even tho they are natural, they are addictive and cause more harm than good. I wouldnt mind cannabis being called a drug except for the fact that when society hears the word drug they automatically think bad. I want cannabis to be looked upon 100% positively. Idk if you can tell but im HUGE on the ability for everybody to use cannabis for medical purposes. Thats a huge part of my life. Im not a stoner, pot head, or anything. I dont sit there and smoke weed all day. Im really serious about it.
 

Kaendar

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And you don't use any chemical reactions to get high or use it as a medicine..?

You realize applying heat to cannabis put's the Cannabis through a chemical change to make it psychoactive... You still put it through a chemical process to get the results you are after... so by your definition then it is a drug...
You dont have to apply heat. You can eat it and get the same if not stronger effects. Burning it is just the easiest way to get it in your system.
 

Shannon Alexander

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Yea those are drugs. Even tho they are natural, they are addictive and cause more harm than good. I wouldnt mind cannabis being called a drug except for the fact that when society hears the word drug they automatically think bad. I want cannabis to be looked upon 100% positively. Idk if you can tell but im HUGE on the ability for everybody to use cannabis for medical purposes. Thats a huge part of my life. Im not a stoner, pot head, or anything. I dont sit there and smoke weed all day. Im really serious about it.
If you are serious about it then research what exactly a drug is before stating that something isn't when it clearly is. Ignorance in a discussion about it does nothing to help the cause, it only makes people that believe it should stay illegal think that advocates for it are liars... straight off the bat when advocates seriously say that it isn't a drug everybody with half an education knows they are either lying or ignorant, both of those not good for the cause...
 

Shannon Alexander

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You dont have to apply heat. You can eat it and get the same if not stronger effects. Burning it is just the easiest way to get it in your system.
As far as I know raw cannabis does not work the same without being heated... and by eating it I'm assuming you mean making cannabutter or some such and putting it in your food.. still with the application of heat to activate the chemicals for the desired result...
 

Hepheastus420

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Yea those are drugs. Even tho they are natural, they are addictive and cause more harm than good. I wouldnt mind cannabis being called a drug except for the fact that when society hears the word drug they automatically think bad. I want cannabis to be looked upon 100% positively. Idk if you can tell but im HUGE on the ability for everybody to use cannabis for medical purposes. Thats a huge part of my life. Im not a stoner, pot head, or anything. I dont sit there and smoke weed all day. Im really serious about it.
Well good for you?? I love weed and it helps me with some "mental" problems I have. Personally, I do smoke pot all day but I'm not lazy nor do I make dumb decisions.
DMT and shrooms aren't physically addicitive btw. If you want to consider the psychological addiction, then that's a different story. But keep in mind that cannabis has a psychological addiction too. I agree, I wish they didn't shoot down cannabis just because it's a drug.
 

Kaendar

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If you are serious about it then research what exactly a drug is before stating that something isn't when it clearly is. Ignorance in a discussion about it does nothing to help the cause, it only makes people that believe it should stay illegal think that advocates for it are liars... straight off the bat when advocates seriously say that it isn't a drug everybody with half an education knows they are either lying or ignorant, both of those not good for the cause...
According to... you?
 

Kaendar

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As far as I know raw cannabis does not work the same without being heated... and by eating it I'm assuming you mean making cannabutter or some such and putting it in your food.. still with the application of heat to activate the chemicals for the desired result...
raw cannabis does. Trust me. Someone like 3 years ago was arguing this shit with me so i ate like 3 grams of chronic. 1 hour later I was TOO high. Never again. And heat is not the same thing as combustion.
 

Hepheastus420

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According to... you?
And me.. It's better to just admit that it's a drug rather than try to tell people that it's just some magical green bush that releases magic upon burning. I mean, why do you think it gets the user high? Because it's a drug.
After admitting it's a drug, you can go on to discuss the benefits it provides without having people get caught up in you saying it's not a drug (which is happening right now).
 

Shannon Alexander

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If you wish to remain ignorant Kaendar that is your choice as a free thinking member of society... the information is out there it is up to you to make the decision to learn...
 

Kaendar

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And me.. It's better to just admit that it's a drug rather than try to tell people that it's just some magical green bush that releases magic upon burning. I mean, why do you think it gets the user high? Because it's a drug.
After admitting it's a drug, you can go on to discuss the benefits it provides without having people get caught up in you saying it's not a drug (which is happening right now).
True, but im not a fan of taking the easy way out
 

Kaendar

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If you wish to remain ignorant Kaendar that is your choice as a free thinking member of society... the information is out there it is up to you to make the decision to learn...
Since this was kinda offensive ill just say I probably know alot more on the subject than you do. How can I be an advocate to my peers if im ignorant on the subject? That wouldnt work out would it?
 

Hepheastus420

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I only felt like reading the second one. Everything he says is in his own opinion. He has the same views as you.
Copy and pasted:

Drugs are associated with addiction, habit and problems. Cannabis is associated with none of these. "Cannabis is not dope, it's everything from rope to hope!"

End copy and paste.
That's an opinion.. Not a fact.
And even then, I'd have to disagree. Sadly, cannabis is associated with problems and is widely known as the "gateway drug".
 
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