romney on MMJ: "aren't there issues of significance you'd like to talk about?"

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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deprave said:
I can see the headlines now....

EYEWITNESS 7 REPORT

"POLICE RAID GROW OP"

Police report the man was "Completely within his legal limits and following under state guidelines although they will prosecute and arrest him regardless"
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yet you can't point to even one single case where a state compliant grower was federally prosecuted AND convicted.

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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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deprave said:
Nice one, I really don't know why these guys are coming in here with these ridiculous lies. We keep posting links and stuff like this but they keep saying to post evidence lol
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that graph is retarded and purposely misleading.

and neither you nor anyone else has been able to point out a single federal conviction of a state compliant grower.

no evidence in the least.
 
deprave

deprave

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UncleBuck said:
yet you can't point to even one single case where a state compliant grower was federally prosecuted AND convicted.

:clap:
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Key word dummy, we posted hundreds of links for you but thats the key fucking word...Why would someone who is determined as state compliant be convicted? That doesn't make any sense...so you continue to troll this ridiculous statement when we post case after case. go fuck yourself you deceptive prick.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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deprave said:
Key word dummy, we posted hundreds of links for you but thats the key fucking word...Why would someone who is determined as state compliant be convicted? That doesn't make any sense...so you continue to troll this ridiculous statement when we post case after case. go fuck yourself you deceptive prick.
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the obama/holder memo only protected state compliant growers, dummy.

just show me one conviction that contradicts their directive.
 
deprave

deprave

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http://m.monroenews.com/news/2012/may/02/federal-conviction-shocks-marijuana-grower/


A Summerfield Township man convicted in federal court of distributing marijuana says he was compliant under state laws and was shocked by the verdict and is planning to appeal.Gerald Lee Duval Jr., 52, and his son, Jeremy, 30, face years in prison after their convictions on four felony charges in U.S. District Court. Mr. Duval told The Evening News that his case was the first of its kind because the family operation was legitimate under Michigan law.
The federal Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) was involved in the investigation, so the case was tried in federal court, which views marijuana as a schedule 1 controlled substance. There are no federal medicinal marijuana laws.
“This is a nightmare,” Mr. Duval said. “This is costing me everything I own. This is a complete nightmare.”
Mr. Duval says he has been targeted for years. He said he never was a distributor but his two adult children were legally licensed to sell marijuana to card-holders. His son, Jeremy, and daughter, Ashley, 27, were allowed to grow 72 plants each for their five patients. His daughter was never charged.
“I never distributed to anyone,” Mr. Duval said. “But I had a right to possess and grow 12 plants.”
Mr. Duval said two greenhouses on the family farm off Ida Center Rd. were compliant with state law. He said fences were installed around the greenhouses and the state-issued licenses were made visible.
“It was legal,” he said. “Michigan law says you can grow it, possess it and distribute it. We were 100 percent legal.”
However, a jury found the two guilty of conspiracy to manufacture more than 100 marijuana plants, manufacturing marijuana plants with intent to distribute and maintaining a place to distribute marijuana under federal law.
Rodel B. Babasa, special agent in charge at the DEA’s Toledo office, said the two had their day in court and were convicted by a jury.
“The record stands for itself,” Mr. Babasa said.
Mr. Duval, who is a convicted felon, faces 10 years in prison while his son could be sent away for five years, a possibility that he said was “scary.” Jeremy Duval’s attorney, Thomas Lavigne of Detroit, said he is appealing the verdicts and filing a motion to keep the men out of jail until the appeal is granted.
Mr. Lavigne, an expert on marijuana laws, said the case was the first of its kind because even when medicinal marijuana growers and suppliers are compliant with state law, they can be charged federally. The state had 200,000 card-carrying medicinal marijuana users and suppliers and anyone could be targeted, Mr. Lavigne said.
“It’s really one of those shell games,” he said. “That was the unique aspect of this case; they were convicted even though they were fully compliant under state law. We were shocked.”
Mr. Duval, who suffers from diabetes, said fighting the case has cost him the family farm and he has accrued $150,000 in attorney fees. He said he believed the operation was legal but he and his son now face prison because it was illegal under federal law.
“This is really a screwed-up law,” he said.
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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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This is how change occurs, believe it or not, as crazy as it sounds. Even if the Holder memo was nothing but an experiment, it showed everyone how popular cannabis is and it showed everyone that it is a serious issue and it is time to deal with it. It was more than an experiment, it was also a demonstration that Obama needs US to give HIM more political clout to reschedule. We do that by showing our government that it is what WE want. We have to pass more state laws defying federal prohibition. Bitching that he isn't changing shit overnight doesn't help, if anything, you are going to kill the movement to end prohibition by getting Romney elected. He isn't going to risk reelection for cannabis, we need to make ourselves more important to him or we need to wait for another president to come along that is liberal about cannabis. If this fails, forget it.
 
deprave

deprave

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abandonconflict said:
This is how change occurs, believe it or not, as crazy as it sounds. Even if the Holder memo was nothing but an experiment, it showed everyone how popular cannabis is and it showed everyone that it is a serious issue and it is time to deal with it. It was more than an experiment, it was also a demonstration that Obama needs US to give HIM more political clout to reschedule. We do that by showing our government that it is what WE want. We have to pass more state laws defying federal prohibition. Bitching that he isn't changing shit overnight doesn't help, if anything, you are going to kill the movement to end prohibition by getting Romney elected. He isn't going to risk reelection for cannabis, we need to make ourselves more important to him or we need to wait for another president to come along that is liberal about cannabis. If this fails, forget it.
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This is how delusional you are...You ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE HOLDER MEMO SIGNIFIED OR CREATED CHANGE! HOLY FUCKING SHIT ! CHANGE! CHANGE! WOW I COULDN'T EVEN GET PAST THE FIRST SENTENCE! YOUR FUCKING OFF THE DEEP END HERE! OBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I Will tell you what it signifies....A political stunt to pander for votes and nothing more.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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deprave said:
This is how delusional you are...You ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE HOLDER MEMO SIGNIFIED OR CREATED CHANGE! HOLY FUCKING SHIT ! CHANGE! CHANGE! WOW I COULDN'T EVEN GET PAST THE FIRST SENTENCE! YOUR FUCKING OFF THE DEEP END HERE! OBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I Will tell you what it signifies....A political stunt to pander for votes and nothing more.
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Oh right, because there were dispensaries everywhere in 2007.
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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abandonconflict said:
This is how change occurs, believe it or not, as crazy as it sounds. Even if the Holder memo was nothing but an experiment, it showed everyone how popular cannabis is and it showed everyone that it is a serious issue and it is time to deal with it. It was more than an experiment, it was also a demonstration that Obama needs US to give HIM more political clout to reschedule. We do that by showing our government that it is what WE want. We have to pass more state laws defying federal prohibition. Bitching that he isn't changing shit overnight doesn't help, if anything, you are going to kill the movement to end prohibition by getting Romney elected. He isn't going to risk reelection for cannabis, we need to make ourselves more important to him or we need to wait for another president to come along that is liberal about cannabis. If this fails, forget it.
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Delusional thoughts from a follower of Bucky, no big surprise. We don't need to give Obama more Political clout, he needs to be a man and a leader and think for himself for god sake. The Holder Memo LOL.
 
deprave

deprave

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What about all those Disperansies in Montana that got raided and the owners all said "They were state compliant so they thought the holder memo protected them"...Thats why they did it.. Do you guys not fucking read high times and shit or what?
 
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