The UK Growers Thread!

[mrt1980]

lol hello to you to love, I've only grown their fem versions but yeah they looked like they came from cuttings, they all grew the same looking identical until they were flipped into flower and even then they all stayed the same height and width the only differences were that some yielded bigger than others, all of them with the exception of one did great and even the poor one out of the pack would have made many growers happy as still did well in the yield and smoke department but it didn't look like it was growing a baseball bat like the others, one was so big I couldn't fit my fingers and thumbs around it using 2 hands and was about as long as my forearm including the length of my hand but I did lose most of the cola to bud rot as it was just too big and I was growing in a shed at the time with very high humidity, all bar the one dodgy plant put out big fat heavy colas that looked a little like IC3's but thicker, they weren't the densest of buds but they weren't airy either.
I just germed some seeds pretty much for the sake of it as I had them lieing around positronics AK47 X Critical mass and sensi seeds super skunk and can say with certainty that unless something special comes out of them that yields well I'll be buying more serious seeds white russian just for the extra cash love

oh yeah the white russian is quiet a light feeder love and has more of a sativia appearance but is a fairly fast finisher about the 9 week mark

ive wanted to grow white russian from the start but i ended up doing dutch passion white widow the first time. then i wanted to try wr but ended up going for ss bubblegum and this run i got the ww back to see the difference in coco and air pots compared to what i had out of soil. i got some barneys bc on the go this time too and im having a few problems with it so i doubt ill do that strain again. does wr give better yeilds than some of the clone onlys ive heared about?

after hearing what you've said about it wr is deffinately going to be my next grow. ill just run a de-humidifier in the room i think just to be safe

 

[IC3M4L3]

wellfinished tydiying up,,,its truelly amaxing how messy the house can get with 1 child,,shit wait til the next ones born!!

FALLIG SKIES STATED AGAIN!! already 2 episdoes up if anyones into it! if your not then..............your just G.A.Y.

lol im just gunna start 6 feet under menna be good

 

[MajorCoco]

no mat enot weed,,its coz i been isolated so long with my leg,shit i aint been out the house since before chirtsmas, its weird
the thought of being around grouwps of people really freaks me out sweaty palms and heart racing,,not fucking cool

Bummer dude. I've been stuck indoors for just 4 weeks now and I'm already climbing up the fucking walls. Got a nice big hole in me leg where an abscess used to be tho, so some progress...if I didn't have anything to smoke all that time I reckon I'd be even more fucked off staring out the windows..

 

[kanx]

I come from a city that has plenty of drugs about mate, the people I bump mine on to would look at me stupid if I said £250 a piece as they aren't even selling it on for that themselves, maybe if I had a few percy smokers to move it on then it would be worth it but I don't the peeps I move it onto wants it gone the same as me and most of the time don't give a shit as long as they can move it on without any probs which the clone onlys do with ease, at best with a long cure on a standard seed strain I'd prob make an extra tenner or so on each and for that it really isn't even worth the time to think about it.

Indeed different strokes for different boats, what works best for you is whats best for you. Tho rarely is there lots of "primo" about , ive only came across one other guy who does "primo" bud in all my travels, know loads of people who grow tho.

Ofc when it comes to (real)mates etc the price wont be affected much by the cure , there still getting mates rate's so they can do whit it what they please, all down to the people you know tho. Its only a special crowd that tend to pay £250+ and they got the money not to complain, these guys could piss £100's on a night out during the week and think nothing of it , if they got money to burn , i'd be more than happy to burn it for them ^^

There the type who just want top quality product without any hassle , as they have to much to loose if something went wrong with a grow in there home, so they dont mind paying for the stuff long as its top quality.

 

[W Dragon]

ive wanted to grow white russian from the start but i ended up doing dutch passion white widow the first time. then i wanted to try wr but ended up going for ss bubblegum and this run i got the ww back to see the difference in coco and air pots compared to what i had out of soil. i got some barneys bc on the go this time too and im having a few problems with it so i doubt ill do that strain again. does wr give better yeilds than some of the clone onlys ive heared about?

after hearing what you've said about it wr is deffinately going to be my next grow. ill just run a de-humidifier in the room i think just to be safe

yes mate the yield is deffo better but the smell isn't there straight off the bat like the clone onlys. I'd describe it as a cash cropper mate yields massively and is very potent and easy to grow, I really liked the smoke had a sweet taste about it that only got better with a short cure a week or 2 i think but that was just my percy, I didn't have any probs shifting it and will be doing it again just for the weight. In the same tent I grew the WR in I also had livers/blues and physco and although they both came close to the yield they took up alot more room so overall there's no doubt in my mind the WR will out yield the clone onlys but not a plant vs plant side by side it would have to be over an area because if your just going to grow a couple under a 600 you could get the same yield out of the clone onlys but if your looking to do a few and space is money russian is the way to go. I pulled 6 1/2 oz off my livers and 5 1/2 off the physco with 4 under a 600 but the other 2 under the same light were crappy bluegum plants and they had no braching and took up very little space so the clone only had most of the light to themselves if there were four clone onlys under that same light things would have been very tight and the yield per plant would have been lower!!! With the WR I could have easily put four under that light I think I had 6 under the light next to them and all them yielded well in there given space and were comfortable hence the higher yield mate. quantity with some quality =WR, quality with some quantity = clone onlys in my eyes. so if your only doing a few stick with the clone onlys if your in it for some weight WR is a great cash cropper.

 

[PUKKA BUD]

Dragon what do you pull off them WR's mate?......with what veg etc?

 

[W Dragon]

Indeed different strokes for different boats, what works best for you is whats best for you.

Ofc when it comes to (real)mates etc the price wont be affected much by the cure , there still getting mates rate's so they can do whit it what they please, all down to the people you know tho. Its only a special crowd that tend to pay £250+ and they got the money not to complain, these guys could piss £100's on a night out during the week and think nothing of it , if they got money to burn , i'd be more than happy to burn it for them ^^

There the type who just want top quality product without any hassle , as they have to much to loose if something went wrong with a grow in there home, so they dont mind paying for the stuff long as its top quality.

That's it mate I don't have the people to sell to like that, up until recently my biggest prob was that I had always dealt with the people at the top of the ladder and not the guys doing the little bits at the bottom run. And as everyone know's the further up the ladder you are the cheaper things are, My first crop I broke it down and sold it in several lumps otherwise I would have had to have shifted it to someone at the top who's only going to pay top run prices or to friends and their friends etc and I didn't fancy that either! I've settled somewhere in the middle now bumping it on to a local dealer, got a few options but likr the price and ease of dealing with the nobodys.

 

[W Dragon]

Dragon what do you pull off them WR's mate?......with what veg etc?

I didn't weigh them as a whole mate had to have been over 20oz as I sold nearly all of it, sambo had a couple of ounces and I was smoking quiet alot of it, not too mention I lost a good couple of oz due to bud rot, but my best guess would be about the 25oz mark due to what I sold and gave away and like I said I smoked a bit of it myself mate, that 25 oz guess is on the low side aswell mate. I was running two 600's side by side and the WR pissed over the clones for weight and I'm sure I chopped them a week early due to the mould moving in because of the size of the buds. They were grown in soil aswell mate no boosters or fuck all bust bio-bizz grow,bloom and topmax.
I didn't take any pics but I made a little movie on my iphone and emailed it sambo to show him what was happening and he saw them himself so if you have any doubts ask him mate I had the misses hold the phone whilst I comapred them to my forearm and showed him how I couldn't get my fingers around the colas using both hands.
I vegged them for about 2wks under a 600 and then a weak in the greenhouse but the weather was shit so put them back under the 600 for a week and then flipped them, so about a months veg from seed but one week of that was under grey sky's and drizzle with cold temps so not a good week, but they were troopers there wasn't any adjustment time they just kept going although they did slow down in the green house which is why they were brought back in.

 

[PUKKA BUD]

No doubts mate just askin........how many WR's did you do under the 1200w an what size pots for the 25oz? the G13 i did sounds simular growth an structure wise an ive always wonded if id a pulled the same off 2 or 3 instead of the 1 with the 600w to its self.

 

[mrt1980]

yes mate the yield is deffo better but the smell isn't there straight off the bat like the clone onlys. I'd describe it as a cash cropper mate yields massively and is very potent and easy to grow, I really liked the smoke had a sweet taste about it that only got better with a short cure a week or 2 i think but that was just my percy, I didn't have any probs shifting it and will be doing it again just for the weight. In the same tent I grew the WR in I also had livers/blues and physco and although they both came close to the yield they took up alot more room so overall there's no doubt in my mind the WR will out yield the clone onlys but not a plant vs plant side by side it would have to be over an area because if your just going to grow a couple under a 600 you could get the same yield out of the clone onlys but if your looking to do a few and space is money russian is the way to go. I pulled 6 1/2 oz off my livers and 5 1/2 off the physco with 4 under a 600 but the other 2 under the same light were crappy bluegum plants and they had no braching and took up very little space so the clone only had most of the light to themselves if there were four clone onlys under that same light things would have been very tight and the yield per plant would have been lower!!! With the WR I could have easily put four under that light I think I had 6 under the light next to them and all them yielded well in there given space and were comfortable hence the higher yield mate. quantity with some quality =WR, quality with some quantity = clone onlys in my eyes. so if your only doing a few stick with the clone onlys if your in it for some weight WR is a great cash cropper.

how many do you think i should put under 2x 600w lights in a 2.4x1.2 tent? i want something good to smoke that can give me enough to last till the next crop. i used to have a 1.2x1.2 and got 8oz off each grow but after giving half to a mate that puts the cash in my 4oz is only lasting me around a month

 

[W Dragon]

No doubts mate just askin........how many WR's did you do under the 1200w an what size pots for the 25oz? the G13 i did sounds simular growth an structure wise an ive always wonded if id a pulled the same off 2 or 3 instead of the 1 with the 600w to its self.

I grew them out under 1x600w hps mate they were in a 2.4 tent I had the russians on one side and the clone only's with 2 crappy blue gums under the other the 600, they were all in 3gal pots mate with soil and yeah your g13 did look a little similar the only real difference was that the WR branches didn't lean out as much they tended to stand up a little straighter. in a 1.2m2 area you could easily get 4 in there and anything less than about the 20mark would be a dissapointment with that much space to themselves, you never know I could have got lucky but I highly doubt it with them all being pretty much the same mate, I'm that confident that my next seed order will be the WR again and I'll sort a camera out and get some pics up when the time comes, I really should have done it by now but I'm a prehistoric caveman and using the laptop poses enough probs without trying to get technical about it lol

 

[3eyes]

So reading through it seems as though not many UK'ers cure their bud. I have to say, I couldn't put it out the door without a cure. 1/ Better taste, 2/ Better High 3/ Stronger and 4/ Better reuptation for your gear......

I understand peoples theories about getting in the dinero asap, but I would have thought you could increase this by putting out increased quality? (perhaps the additional weeks just do not compensate for the additional revenue)......

One of the best growers I know in Scotland grows weed that you would struggle to find a sugar leaf on when you bought it, it has been so well cured and manicured. So it can be done me thinks.

Their fucking heathens around here they don't care what it tastes like or if it's dry even just as long as it gets them stoned so it's just the growers who benefit from cured buds

 

[mrt1980]

I grew them out under 1x600w hps mate they were in a 2.4 tent I had the russians on one side and the clone only's with 2 crappy blue gums under the other the 600, they were all in 3gal pots mate with soil and yeah your g13 did look a little similar the only real difference was that the WR branches didn't lean out as much they tended to stand up a little straighter. in a 1.2m2 area you could easily get 4 in there and anything less than about the 20mark would be a dissapointment with that much space to themselves, you never know I could have got lucky but I highly doubt it with them all being pretty much the same mate, I'm that confident that my next seed order will be the WR again and I'll sort a camera out and get some pics up when the time comes, I really should have done it by now but I'm a prehistoric caveman and using the laptop poses enough probs without trying to get technical about it lol

when will your next grow be? ill be ordering more seeds the end of august

 

[W Dragon]

how many do you think i should put under 2x 600w lights in a 2.4x1.2 tent? i want something good to smoke that can give me enough to last till the next crop. i used to have a 1.2x1.2 and got 8oz off each grow but after giving half to a mate that puts the cash in my 4oz is only lasting me around a month

I'd buy 2x6packs of fems and put them all in mate 6 under each light that way you can pick your favs and if they all turn out to be good as long as you don't veg them too long they should all be good in there. Also 8oz a light mate? you should piss all over that 16oz a light with that strain would be low as long as you know what your doing. When I grew them out mate I was growing them in a concrete shed that had humidity probs a bout of bugs and temps that changed daily and it was still piss easy to pull good weight out of them, honestly mate I'd call them a beginners strain just because of how they produce in crappy conditions, If your setup is even half decent 8oz a light will become nothing but a bad memory. Also reguarding their feeding levels I fed them low all the way through and the only thing I changed was the ph levels each feed Ilike to vary my levels as I believe plants will take up different nutes at different ph levels.
No skill involved 1full syringe of grow, 2full syringes of bloom and 2full syringes of topmax with a slightly different ph level each feed, for example ph6.0 next feed ph6.2 next feed ph 6.4 next feed ph6.6-7 and then start to lower the ph next feed ph6.5 next feed ph6.3 and the 6.0 on the next and then start over working my up and then back down again, truth is I don't even stick to those numbers aslong as it's pretty close

 

[PUKKA BUD]

I grew them out under 1x600w hps mate they were in a 2.4 tent I had the russians on one side and the clone only's with 2 crappy blue gums under the other the 600, they were all in 3gal pots mate with soil and yeah your g13 did look a little similar the only real difference was that the WR branches didn't lean out as much they tended to stand up a little straighter. in a 1.2m2 area you could easily get 4 in there and anything less than about the 20mark would be a dissapointment with that much space to themselves, you never know I could have got lucky but I highly doubt it with them all being pretty much the same mate, I'm that confident that my next seed order will be the WR again and I'll sort a camera out and get some pics up when the time comes, I really should have done it by now but I'm a prehistoric caveman and using the laptop poses enough probs without trying to get technical about it lol

My space is shitty size like 1.1 x 0.7m so id probs get 2 or 3 at a push in there was just wonderin if i could beat my 13 oz with the WR in there, i got 11 oz from 2 blue cheese from seed an they was big filled the space but spaced out branchin like you said so if i could fit 3 WR in there an they yield 6+ each id be way other my best , so how many did you do under the 600w lol still ant told me mate?

 

[W Dragon]

when will your next grow be? ill be ordering more seeds the end of august

I have a grow on at the mo mate (clone onlys) but have some seedlings on the go aswell sensi super skunk and positronics AK47 x critical mass. Will prob be about 2months til I order in the WR, could be a lot sooner it depends on how these get on if their not up to scratch I'll bin them and make another seed order. 5 outta 5 of the ak47 x germed but only 3 of the super skunk germed so with only 8 plants their chances aren't good, serious seeds is the only seeds I've had where nearly all have made it til the end, the other seed strains I've grown out have been butchered and I've only been left with one or 2 at the end.

 

[W Dragon]

My space is shitty size like 1.1 x 0.7m so id probs get 2 or 3 at a push in there was just wonderin if i could beat my 13 oz with the WR in there, i got 11 oz from 2 blue cheese from seed an they was big filled the space but spaced out branchin like you said so if i could fit 3 WR in there an they yield 6+ each id be way other my best , so how many did you do under the 600w lol still ant told me mate?

lol soz mate I put 6 into a 1.2m area and they did well in there, in your size mate I'd try for 4 and see how that goes, a little pruning on the bottom to remove the odd little weak branches you get and they should be fine in that size area, I can't see you pulling less than 4 a piece mate, I imagine the cola's on them alone would weigh about 2oz each without the surrounding buds, also the leaves have a sativa appearance to them that allows alot of light down through the canopy and they're far from bushy plants allowing them a smaller footprint.

 

[jafooli]

good evening guys and girls. how has your day been so far

 

[PUKKA BUD]

lol soz mate I put 6 into a 1.2m area and they did well in there, in your size mate I'd try for 4 and see how that goes, a little pruning on the bottom to remove the odd little weak branches you get and they should be fine in that size area, I can't see you pulling less than 4 a piece mate, I imagine the cola's on them alone would weigh about 2oz each without the surrounding buds, also the leaves have a sativa appearance to them that allows alot of light down through the canopy and they're far from bushy plants allowing them a smaller footprint.

Defo a thought for the future mate thanks for the info and if you like to try different seeds now an again try Barneys G13 haze (f) they grow huge buds are pretty short plants an the smoke wernt half bad either nice an strong, they do pretty good in numbers too, ghb did a few an yielded good from them.

 

[W Dragon]

Defo a thought for the future mate thanks for the info and if you like to try different seeds now an again try Barneys G13 haze (f) they grow huge buds are pretty short plants an the smoke wernt half bad either nice an strong, they do pretty good in numbers too, ghb did a few an yielded good from them.

cheers mate but to be honest I can't see me growing out many more seed strains, I have the exo, pysco, and livers and now i'm just looking for something easy to grow that doesn't need tying or propping up as I'm not in a tent anymore and can't have lines for support everywhere, I'm thinking a sog with the clone onlys and small heavy producers next to them just for the ease of it and the WR seems like it will fit bill perfectly with them no stretching too much, I use air cooled hoods (power plant) and like to keep the light foot print just above the plants so an even canopy is a must for me now, If I didn't love the taste and saleabilty of the clone onlys they would already be gone by now but what can ya do? I'm in love with the livers and the exo n physco are just the cherry on top. If I had a bigger setup and it was strictly about the money they'd probably already be gone with the exception of the livers that yields very well just needs a lot of support especially at the end of flower.