plants starting to budding 35 degrees N

[durbanmistyman]

Hey guys many of my outdoor plants that have been out since may 11 are beginning to flower. They were fully matured at two feet and had already shown sex when they were put out on may 11. They have been scrogged and now take up the majority of the 4ft. by 6ft. screen. the thing is that they shouldn't be starting to bud yet. Last year the earliest didn't begin flowering until mid to late july. They are a lot bigger than last year but it doesn't make since why they are beginning to flower already. Can anyone explain or are anyone elses beginning to flower?

 

[beginner.legal.growop]

wtf is 35 degrees north! we are no geographers!

where are you located? I have only seen one strain that flowers with 8 hours of light, and that was a pure kush strain (forgot the name). So if your in california I doubt your plants would start flowering already.

Did you veg them indoors under 24 hours then move them outside when they are 2 ft, this can sometime force flower most indica varieties.

Until you give a better location then 35 degrees north, I doubt anyone will have an answer.

Here is what google gives me when I google 35 degrees north.

A website about Knoxville Tennessee.
It also says your location could be anywhere from africa, the mediteranean sea, the pacific, etc...

I mean just give us your location. dont give us your latitude and longitude because then some prick is gonna steal your crop!

anyways I am guessing you are in the US, but at latitude 35 you could be anywhere accross the whole united states...

When you say 35 degrees north, I am guessing you are referring to lattitude and longitude, so if your lat is 35 and you are north, that still is a wide variety of the unites states...
Which now I dont even see how that makes sense because have can you be at latitude 35 and be north... latitude 35 is on the northern hemispere yes, but it on the southern side of the unites states, and most of the states it runs through. anyways I am a stoner not a geographer/geologist... soooooo yeahhhhhhh

So just a word of advice, dont be confusing, if you live in California say California... Dont say 39 degrees north, 125 degrees west (this is what I believe you should of said, not 36 degrees north etc...)(This is not my location I believe this is a park lol)

Hope this helps!

I will post this since you seem to be so knowledgeable with these types of things.

If this weird ass diagram, that looks like something arostotle or aliens would draw, tells you anything and if it says you are getting 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark you are in flowering mode my man!

ALSO if this chart doesnt help just take your location, go too google and google, *location* sunset and sunrise. Google, being as smart as it is, will quickly tell you how many hours of sunlight you are getting. If google fails to tell you automatically, and is not being the great wizard that he is, click on a link that is talking about sunset and sunrise!

hope this helps!

 

[scroglodyte]

35.........pretty damn South.....to me. no. you shouldn't be flowering unless auto. i'm almost at 40, and ain't no flowering going on here. are you shaded?

 

[Saldaw]

^ shade usually can cause early flowering

 

[beardietree]

They are sexually mature .They will show their sex .the way indicas work

 

[Mr.Marijuana420]

if u were indoors on say 18/6, thats why they are starting to flower. the plants i had that showed sex indoors under 16/8 cycle, once being put out, almost immediately started flowering, i attribute this to the light hrs outside being and hr or 2 shorter than what the indoor cycle was, but they are both revegging well now, after they quickly realized the light hrs were back going up. so its that dramatic decrease in light hrs, from indoors to out, that can cause early flower, but they should soon start vegging, but if u put them out they continued vegging outside for some weeks, and are now budding, i cant say i have an explaination

 

[Tennis1]

I've got a friend with a few of hers in stretch showing sex too. She said about the same thing as you did about last year. Just gonna be some shorties. Better than too late I guess. Best of luck to you all.

 

[obijohn]

^ shade usually can cause early flowering

It will cause less than optimal growing, but it won't cause them to flower. They need a certain amount of total dark time. Even in the shade there is enough light to not register as dark to the plants.

 

[durbanmistyman]

Beg.growop- wow I didn't realize someone could overthink it that much its pretty simple 35 degrees north is my latitude and yea that is the southern US same hours of light. And I already know how many hours of light I am getting 14.3, that is why it confuses me that they are flowering already

Scrog n Saldaw- They are shaded but no more than last year they were in same spot an were starting flowering Aug. 1.

beardie- I know the difference in showing sex when they are mature and actually starting to flower and most are starting to flower.

Mr.mj420- Yea I did that vegged under 18/6 then worked my way down to 16/8 and then outside. The thing is that is getting me confused is like you said, they went out over a month ago with 13.1 hrs of light and they have been aggressively vegging for a month and have taken up the entire 6x4 screen and now that they have another 1.2 hours and are deciding to flower.

Obijohn- That is what I thought because they are always getting at least indirect light.

 

[durbanmistyman]

Keep in mind that these are big plants in 65 gal smarties, all organic, in SS. Not stressed little plants. It just doesn't make since.

 

[durbanmistyman]

I am currently battling leaf spot disease with greencure and liquid copper but it should not be causing this

 

[Randm]

Did you gradually decrease the light while they where indoors to match the light6 when they will be planted outdoors? When I am going to transplant to an outdoor grow, I decrease my lighting on those plants by about 1/2 hr a week untill it matches what the available lighting will be outdoors on the day of transplant. a plant that is 24 inches in height, and showing her sex is just itching to go into flower, and has to be treated as if she wants to flower. Otherwise what happened to you was the transition from 18/6 to 14 hrs light was enough to kick her into flower. It would have done that even if the outdoor light was 15 hrs. Its the sudden shift in available light that did this. Even by slowly transitioning the light down to match the outdoor lighting a plant at that age may still go into flower.

I've talked to many growers who tell me not to try and grow them big indoors and transplant outdoors in the hopes of getting monster plants just for this reason. They tell me that to prevent this they put their plants outdoors when they are much younger, and havent shown their sex yet. ( Using clones or feminized seeds rather than un feminized seeds for their plants ).

Its a tossup really. As some strains are more sensitive to light changes than others, and will be more prone to do this. Even knowing this, and following the above procedure is no guaranty that they will not still try and flower on you, but it cuts down the probability of it happening. I was very carefull, and decreased lighting gradually, and still had several of mine start to show flowering. They re-veged themselves and are merrily on their way toward being productive ladies now.

 

[durbanmistyman]

Did you gradually decrease the light while they where indoors to match the light6 when they will be planted outdoors? When I am going to transplant to an outdoor grow, I decrease my lighting on those plants by about 1/2 hr a week untill it matches what the available lighting will be outdoors on the day of transplant. a plant that is 24 inches in height, and showing her sex is just itching to go into flower, and has to be treated as if she wants to flower. Otherwise what happened to you was the transition from 18/6 to 14 hrs light was enough to kick her into flower. It would have done that even if the outdoor light was 15 hrs. Its the sudden shift in available light that did this. Even by slowly transitioning the light down to match the outdoor lighting a plant at that age may still go into flower.

I've talked to many growers who tell me not to try and grow them big indoors and transplant outdoors in the hopes of getting monster plants just for this reason. They tell me that to prevent this they put their plants outdoors when they are much younger, and havent shown their sex yet. ( Using clones or feminized seeds rather than un feminized seeds for their plants ).

Its a tossup really. As some strains are more sensitive to light changes than others, and will be more prone to do this. Even knowing this, and following the above procedure is no guaranty that they will not still try and flower on you, but it cuts down the probability of it happening. I was very carefull, and decreased lighting gradually, and still had several of mine start to show flowering. They re-veged themselves and are merrily on their way toward being productive ladies now.

Read the prior posts man! Your entire post, and now most of this post is pointless and a waist of time. Like I said, I did slowly decrease the light before going out and they did not bud when I put them out as 24" plants with 13 hrs of light on may 11 they vegged vigourously for 40 days to what are now 4ft x 6ft bushes and have now started to flower in the past week with 14.3 hours of light. This is what does not make since. I know what you are talking about with going from inside to out it happened to me last year they flowered then revegged. This is not the case this year. We had some really wet weather the for 3 or 4 days but that still doesnt explain it. Today it is looking like they are starting to reveg because all the white hairs are dying back to red and brown.

 

[BigJon]

Is it in a pot or in the ground? If in a pot how big is it? how long has it been planted since last transplant.

Theory 1 is that you're running out of nitrogen in your soil.

But in case you're In ground or feeding fertilizer, I'm completely off.

Theory 2 is that the age of the plant is kicking in and it's desire to reproduce is stronger than its photoperiod instincts.

Could be a combination of both.

 

[BigJon]

FYI I have two plants that's trying to flower. Both got root bound. The other got burnt from an over eager blood meal top dressing. I ended up scooping out the top centimeter and flushing the hell out of it. That would explain why both is nitrogen deficient.

One is a clone from May te other a seed planted in mid April

 

[durbanmistyman]

Im in 65 gal smart pots. They are in 50% supersoil and have received a light high n bat guano top dress and compost teas with kelp.

 

[BigJon]

Forgive me if you already covered it but where did you get the clones from? Dispensary? Friend? Old hippy named Tim? Reason why I ask because if we use profiling we may figure out the age of the mother plant. Hippy might have a cutting thats been clones dozens of times. Or a homie might have a clone that's been cloned from a clone from a clone of hippys mom and has also been clipped dozens times to make hundreds of clones. Sorry I can't prove any of this. Sounded like you just wanted thoughts on the problem and not really solutions. Looks like you got the right idea with the top dress. I think this is why a lot of old timers patiently wait till June. My ass was trying to plant in march. Lol

 

[indicagreen]

Man I got like 7 of my girls doin the same damn thing!! if ya find out anything let me know..lol im Nor Cali.

 

[durbanmistyman]

all from seed

 

[420jordy]

you all are overcomplicating things, lets get back to the simplest fact about marijuana, it is a plant, a weed at that, and when anyplant reaches full maturity it will start to bud, or if for some reason the plant thinks its times running short it will start to bud, so the simplest thing of a couple rainy days can cause a plant to bud, washington weather sucks and early budding isnt that odd for us some make it to full potential monsters and some are shrubby 3feet beasts its the plants decision when its outside, its just how you guide it. remember its a plant let it grow.