When do you get a soul??

DirtyGloveLuv

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im saying people even self proclaimed "atheists" still look at shit from the Christian point of view they were raised in. the normal line of thought and reasoning for most white americans comes from a Christian set of principle whether or not they go 2 church. and im saying that Christian viewpoint they are coming from, whether or not theyre actually arguing christianity they are always arguing from its point of view and its wrong thats what im saying.
 

eye exaggerate

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if you cant understand what im saying still than i dont know what 2 say cuz your completely taking what im saying and getting the complete OPPOSITE of what im tryn 2 say out of it.
...dude, neer is one of the most level-headed people here. Maybe relax a bit because that's part of the whole 'stoners having mutual discussion theme' you are fighting for.
 

DirtyGloveLuv

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like the ideas of right and wrong, killing being wrong, all that kinda stuff is all Christian principles. do you think animals feel bad when they kill? fuck no
 

eye exaggerate

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like the ideas of right and wrong, killing being wrong, all that kinda stuff is all Christian principles. do you think animals feel bad when they kill? fuck no

...the christian perspective is to transcend the animal nature - n'est pas? ...just like the rest of the world.
 

DirtyGloveLuv

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fc4ee-nutswing.jpg for somone who doesnt understand the difference between the numerical number 2 and the word two, you sure do have alot of men chasing after you Canna hehe you must be doing somthing right.
 

st0wandgrow

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There is still so much debate because stubborn people refuse to believe its true. When proof smacks them in the face they try to pull out science, which smacks them again becuase science just proves that shit is possible.
This simply isn't true!

The vast majority of atheists I know WANT to be wrong where this is concerned. Who wouldn't want to be reunited with friends and loved ones, and spend eternity frolicking in some meadow like we were part of a Snuggle fabric softener add?

This isn't about being "stubborn", and ignoring evidence that smacks us in the face. This is about applying logic and common sense.
 

Kaendar

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if you cant understand what im saying still than i dont know what 2 say cuz your completely taking what im saying and getting the complete OPPOSITE of what im tryn 2 say out of it.
Dude ur shit makes no sense. I have to re read everything you post on here. Not only is it illegible but what you have to say doesnt really relate to anything. Im guessing your probably like 17 and think you know everything. Wait til you grow up and reality smacks you in the face.
 

Kaendar

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This simply isn't true!

The vast majority of atheists I know WANT to be wrong where this is concerned. Who wouldn't want to be reunited with friends and loved ones, and spend eternity frolicking in some meadow like we were part of a Snuggle fabric softener add?

This isn't about being "stubborn", and ignoring evidence that smacks us in the face. This is about applying logic and common sense.
As you can see, atheists are only looking for a specific kind of evidence. They automatically rule out everything that isnt tangible in a scientific point of view. I offered many people lots of different and very obvious evidence, but no, they blew it off as heresay and manipulated testimonies. The problem with alot of atheists is that they dont understand spirituality, religion, and life beyond the physical, so rather than deal with that problem they automatically say it doesnt exist.
 

st0wandgrow

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Yes animals experience thought and emotion, but they dont know good and evil. Everything is put on this earth to support humans. Trees, plants, water, weather, animals, etc. And im not christian. Im not any religion.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again ....

This mindset is what makes the belief in a god dangerous. The notion that we as humans own this planet, and it is ours to consume, destroy, and burn as we see fit blows me away. What a fucking egotistical mind set! We have evolved as a species beyond what our fellow inhabitants have, but by no means do we have any more right to the earths resources than any other living creature.

If there is a god, don't you feel that he/she/it would want us to be good stewards of the planet that he/she/it created?
 

Doer

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To me the real question is, how did "soul" "consciousness" "Self" get a meat robot to ride.
 

Heisenberg

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As you can see, atheists are only looking for a specific kind of evidence. They automatically rule out everything that isnt tangible in a scientific point of view. I offered many people lots of different and very obvious evidence, but no, they blew it off as heresay and manipulated testimonies.
This standard of evidence you are attacking is universal to scientific, academic and legal investigation. It is not unique to atheists. If your mother was being accused of murder and looking at prison or execution, I imagine you would want more than anecdotal evidence to draw a conclusion. The reasons you would list as why anecdotal testimony is not enough to convict your mother are the same reasons it's being rejected here.

The answers provided can only be as good as the process which produces them. There is nothing wrong with being careful and exclusive when it comes to judging truth value.



The problem with alot of atheists is that they dont understand spirituality, religion, and life beyond the physical, so rather than deal with that problem they automatically say it doesnt exist.
So only those who believe are capable of belief? Seems rather circular and useless. If I was as unconcerned with fairness and accuracy as you I could easily say that the problem with spiritual people is that they can't accept a life where nothing is beyond the physical so rather than deal with it they insist there is.
 

eye exaggerate

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I've said this before, and I'll say it again ....

This mindset is what makes the belief in a god dangerous. The notion that we as humans own this planet, and it is ours to consume, destroy, and burn as we see fit blows me away. What a fucking egotistical mind set!
...you're totally right, but what if that planet is you? You are free to do all of those things to your own planet (earth / body) you described, yes? But, would all things be wise?
 

DirtyGloveLuv

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Dude ur shit makes no sense. I have to re read everything you post on here. Not only is it illegible but what you have to say doesnt really relate to anything. Im guessing your probably like 17 and think you know everything. Wait til you grow up and reality smacks you in the face.
kaendar if your opinions contradict each other 1 more time your brain is likely to start shorting out. sorry that i dont feel the need 2 type out my every belief on here like you........i wonder why that is? hahahahaha
 

Kaendar

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This standard of evidence you are attacking is universal to scientific, academic and legal investigation. It is not unique to atheists. If your mother was being accused of murder and looking at prison or execution, I imagine you would want more than anecdotal evidence to draw a conclusion. The reasons you would list as why anecdotal testimony is not enough to convict your mother are the same reasons it's being rejected here.

The answers provided can only be as good as the process which produces them. There is nothing wrong with being careful and exclusive when it comes to judging truth value.





So only those who believe are capable of belief? Seems rather circular and useless. If I was as unconcerned with fairness and accuracy as you I could easily say that the problem with spiritual people is that they can't accept a life where nothing is beyond the physical so rather than deal with it they insist there is.
The only reason that people believe there is a life beyond the physical is because over the history of man, god has made himself known to us many times. If we never had a reason to then im sure we would all be atheists. Im a person of reason and rationality. I understand not wanting to believe in something when you feel there is no proof of it existing, I struggled through that alot in life. But everytime im doubting it I see a bunch of stuff that shows me otherwise. I mean the most recent stuff is that everything that was predicted in the bible is coming true. For the longest time I was one of those dumbasses that thought the world was gonna end December 21st of this year. That shit gave me severe anxiety and I almost lost faith because in the bible it describes the end times and this didnt match that. But over time I see bible predictions coming true. Everything said in the Book of Revelations is going down right now literally word for word. Its no coincidence. So now I know the world isnt gonna end this year..

For me personally, theres too much evidence that proves that something beyond us exists. And when people try to argue it with science all I see is more evidence.
 
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