GrowLab 80 - G13 Pineapple Express ... [200w T5 veg / 400w HPS flower]

[lokie]

Day 34

Probably my favorite pic of the PE so far.

looks like a cannabis erection.

 

[toastynoodles]

This is looking great.

 

[noob78]

Day 34 after lights off..

Hoping for these ladies to chunk out a bit more in the next month or so. I can only guess that they will.

Flower photos..

Probably my favorite pic of the PE so far.

Damn those look frosty, job well done

 

[Sr. Verde]

Hey Sr. what is too hot?

Hard to say exactly. You have radiant heat, and atmospheric heat. They will play off each other to heat up your plant. But generally I like to keep them between like 74-79f during lights on, and 65-78 during lights off. It's better to have a 10-15 degree difference between lights on and off but I just can't do that in the summer. I don't usually let my girls ever get past 84-86F, as that's too hot. But for a day or so if you keep watch on the temp 84 is ok without radiant heat if you can't help it. You just don't want your plants always at or above the 84 range, flowers don't grow as dense when the flowers are subjected to uncomfortable heat. Honestly when I think heat I think of myself, if I could tolerate it and enjoy it so can my plants. But at 85+ for more than a few hours in the sun, I personally start sweating, and getting angry and stressed for no reason (same response from the plants I guess)

Beautifu lady's sir can't wait to start my first grow

What is stopping you from starting now!

I leave my fan running non stop am I not supposed to?

No that's fine, I just don't need my inline fan running 24/7. I do however keep the regular as well as oscillating fans running 24/7 inside the tent to circulate air, prevent PM and strengthen stalks .

looks like a cannabis erection.

Thanks! Leaning tower of cannabis?

This is looking great.

I appreciate you stopping in to say such kind words .

Damn those look frosty, job well done

Thanks man! And not done yet! Only day 35 today, I'm assuming the extra chunky/frosty ness is still yet to come!

 

[noob78]

Hard to say exactly. You have radiant heat, and atmospheric heat. They will play off each other to heat up your plant. But generally I like to keep them between like 74-79f during lights on, and 65-78 during lights off. It's better to have a 10-15 degree difference between lights on and off but I just can't do that in the summer. I don't usually let my girls ever get past 84-86F, as that's too hot. But for a day or so if you keep watch on the temp 84 is ok without radiant heat if you can't help it. You just don't want your plants always at or above the 84 range, flowers don't grow as dense when the flowers are subjected to uncomfortable heat. Honestly when I think heat I think of myself, if I could tolerate it and enjoy it so can my plants. But at 85+ for more than a few hours in the sun, I personally start sweating, and getting angry and stressed for no reason (same response from the plants I guess)What is stopping you from starting now! No that's fine, I just don't need my inline fan running 24/7. I do however keep the regular as well as oscillating fans running 24/7 inside the tent to circulate air, prevent PM and strengthen stalks .Thanks! Leaning tower of cannabis? I appreciate you stopping in to say such kind words . Thanks man! And not done yet! Only day 35 today, I'm assuming the extra chunky/frosty ness is still yet to come!

lol about the heat, It seems the hotter I get the shorter my fuse gets. Ok thanks about the heat, my heat is max 84 and when I see that I just I put a portable ac right were the tents are and it gets in at my normal 78-79 degrees. During this summer Im not sure how hot the tent is with lights off but in my room were the tents are it drops considerable for me after lights off.

 

[Sr. Verde]

lol about the heat, It seems the hotter I get the shorter my fuse gets. Ok thanks about the heat, my heat is max 84 and when I see that I just I put a portable ac right were the tents are and it gets in at my normal 78-79 degrees. During this summer Im not sure how hot the tent is with lights off but in my room were the tents are it drops considerable for me after lights off.

For sure, that sounds fine. As long as you are on top of it! 84 isn't bad at all. My canopy is sitting at 80.5 and I can't do shit about it. AC is set at 70F.

When I fried my sour kush over the course of a few days I think it shot up in the low 90's ( I wasn't there, but checked the MAX/LOW on the thermometer). The heat just badly damaged a lot of foliage, didn't 100% destroy it... But the flowers were fine, 100% undamaged. Cannabis is a resilient plant for sure! It totally tries to keep those flowers healthy until the plant absolutely dies.

Portable AC rocks. I have to cool the entire room down to keep my tent cool. Once I get a tent like a 10x5, or a 10x10, you can be sure one of the things I'll be investing most in is a sweet ass, energy efficient portable AC. Ill just put the portable ac on a wall inside the tent, near the inline fan intake. If you can keep your temps down you can really push those lights, and get some awesome colors going.

 

[bombasticson]

Does lower temps really promote more trichromes?

 

[Sr. Verde]

No, humidity does. As well as a number of other things .

 

[noob78]

For sure, that sounds fine. As long as you are on top of it! 84 isn't bad at all. My canopy is sitting at 80.5 and I can't do shit about it. AC is set at 70F.

When I fried my sour kush over the course of a few days I think it shot up in the low 90's ( I wasn't there, but checked the MAX/LOW on the thermometer). The heat just badly damaged a lot of foliage, didn't 100% destroy it... But the flowers were fine, 100% undamaged. Cannabis is a resilient plant for sure! It totally tries to keep those flowers healthy until the plant absolutely dies.

Portable AC rocks. I have to cool the entire room down to keep my tent cool. Once I get a tent like a 10x5, or a 10x10, you can be sure one of the things I'll be investing most in is a sweet ass, energy efficient portable AC. Ill just put the portable ac on a wall inside the tent, near the inline fan intake. If you can keep your temps down you can really push those lights, and get some awesome colors going.

Very envious that your planning on a 10x5 or 10 x 10 tent, man that is nothing but possibilities. The only thing I'll be investing in is a mother keeper tent so I can keep 2 mothers and veg 2 waterfarms while I finish in my other tent. I am hoping to cut out a good month or so in veg with the new tent. I plan on vegging the 2 spare waterfarms untill I need the screen, then That will give me around 2 weeks to veg in the flower tent.

 

[Sr. Verde]

Very envious that your planning on a 10x5 or 10 x 10 tent, man that is nothing but possibilities. The only thing I'll be investing in is a mother keeper tent so I can keep 2 mothers and veg 2 waterfarms while I finish in my other tent. I am hoping to cut out a good month or so in veg with the new tent. I plan on vegging the 2 spare waterfarms untill I need the screen, then That will give me around 2 weeks to veg in the flower tent.

I've been planning one for a long time my friend! So far nothing has come from it though .

The mom tent sounds good, though you might need 2 tents, one for a mom, and one for veg. You could get 400w MH and it would do some work on your girls. I was using 200w floro but found thats only good until they are 6 inches or so tall. It just really doesn't penetrate the canopy like HID does.

Any other strain besides Sour Kush and some heavy sativas will need a little more veg than you gave the sour kush if you want to pull a good yield. You got a stretchy girl, (she will fill out) but yeah, I got away with 100w for Veg on the Sour Kush, I used twice as much light for veg on the PE and they still wanted more .

 

[quisqueyano]

Good to see you were able to do something about your temps. I'm working on that myself.

Looking nice and frosty.

 

[Sr. Verde]

Speaking of temps..

I woke up this morning at about 5am, checked my thermometer.. 82.4F.... fuck, whatever, turn the AC down a bit... Checked at about 8am... 82.4F, damn what gives? So I go to the sink, fill up my water jugs, come back, 82.4F. OK this kind of sucks, *thennnnn* I take a closer look at the temp 82.4F MAX HI. I had pressed the button to display the max temp recorded, once I pressed the button again to show me current temps my thermometer read out 76.8F . Oops.

Time to set the AC back to where it was.. Giving the girls some water after some dabs here.

 

[Sr. Verde]

Day 36 today.

Watering with /gal

10mL Cal Mag
5mL Grow Big
15mL Tiger Bloom
30mL Big Bloom
pH @ 6.6

I'm just really hoping this nute solution isn't too hot for the PE. Though, I figure if there's any time to get a decent feeding in, it's right now .

flash on, lights on

Sub-Canopy

from #1, the plant in the back.. Looking like #1 will flower a little longer than #2, and might be a bit chunkier, if she keeps on blooming.

 

[bombasticson]

Speaking of temps..

I woke up this morning at about 5am, checked my thermometer.. 82.4F.... fuck, whatever, turn the AC down a bit... Checked at about 8am... 82.4F, damn what gives? So I go to the sink, fill up my water jugs, come back, 82.4F. OK this kind of sucks, *thennnnn* I take a closer look at the temp 82.4F MAX HI. I had pressed the button to display the max temp recorded, once I pressed the button again to show me current temps my thermometer read out 76.8F . Oops.

Time to set the AC back to where it was.. Giving the girls some water after some dabs here.

Now I know why my buds arent as frosty as yours my temps have been in 80's to 90's most of my grow.. I'm gonna keep my temps below 80 from now on

 

[Sr. Verde]

Lower temp doesn't necessarily mean more frost per say.. Just with high temps your stressing the plant out, which usually results in foxtailing, and weird vegetation growth on the flowers. Maybe less frost from the stress, but not directly from the lack of a lower temperature.

 

[chb444220]

lookin good man! keep it up. theyre frostin up nice now! my PE cross is startin to frost up nice too. lookin like a PE dom. pheno i got goin. looks similar to yours. frost is reachin out to the fan leaves. smells like pineapple and strawberry candy. =) Mmmmmm. they do look great tho! ive been dealing with a heat wave lately.. over here in new england.. Temps have beein in the high 90's the past few days... =/ finally coolin off now tho. but its tough cuz i dont have an AC or anything. just a big fan.. make another Co2 container to help battle the heat. =) (the ghetto way... 1 tablespoon of Dry Active Yeast.. 1 cup of sugar and warm water mixed in a 2 liter bottle.. with a piece of aquarium tube/hose stuck into the cap) i kno th eplant can handle high heat better with highler levels of Co2. those ghetto bottles last about 2-3 weeks.. hell of alot cheaper than an actualy Co2 setup.... thats for sure! lol. jsut got sum azamax to battle the spider mites... also. got sum rockwool cubes.. u ever use them? this will be my 1st time tryin them out. hopin for better results that i have had with jiffy pellets..riot cubes.. etc... anywayzzz. take care man. everyting looks great!

 

[noob78]

lookin good man! keep it up. theyre frostin up nice now! my PE cross is startin to frost up nice too. lookin like a PE dom. pheno i got goin. looks similar to yours. frost is reachin out to the fan leaves. smells like pineapple and strawberry candy. =) Mmmmmm. they do look great tho! ive been dealing with a heat wave lately.. over here in new england.. Temps have beein in the high 90's the past few days... =/ finally coolin off now tho. but its tough cuz i dont have an AC or anything. just a big fan.. make another Co2 container to help battle the heat. =) (the ghetto way... 1 tablespoon of Dry Active Yeast.. 1 cup of sugar and warm water mixed in a 2 liter bottle.. with a piece of aquarium tube/hose stuck into the cap) i kno th eplant can handle high heat better with highler levels of Co2. those ghetto bottles last about 2-3 weeks.. hell of alot cheaper than an actualy Co2 setup.... thats for sure! lol. jsut got sum azamax to battle the spider mites... also. got sum rockwool cubes.. u ever use them? this will be my 1st time tryin them out. hopin for better results that i have had with jiffy pellets..riot cubes.. etc... anywayzzz. take care man. everyting looks great!

I use the rockwool cubes some, I soak them for 24 hrs. in ph'd water before use, I have read that they can throw your ph off, Thats why I soak mine. Hope thats helps chb444220 and if you could take a pics of your Co2 container, sounds interesting

 

[Sr. Verde]

I've used rockwool, for other plants not cannabis. I was never a fan. It's so permanent I feel.

I just germinate seeds using the paper towel method, have like 90% success rate. Once the tap root is out, I stick my finger in the dirt, form a small hole, drop it in there, and bury it. I usually use the 20oz Plastic Solo Cups, with some holes drilled into the bottom for drainage. The cannabis usually gets the roots wrapped around the bottom a few times by 2 weeks after planting, then it's on to the big, final pot . At least this is my method.

 

[chb444220]

alllright. thanks guys. yeaa i didnt think to soak mine. =/ shit. lol. hopin they stay moist for a while. that was my problem with the other pellets.. they dried out wayy too quickly.. same with those bio-degradable pots... they dry out so fast and then dry out the soil. and kill off the roots. ill see how they do. ive taken 4 Blue Dream Clones. and 2 purple pineapple clones. gonna see how they do in the cubes. i usually do that same thing as u verde. party cups with holes in it. paper towel germ method. dig a lil hole. toss them in. =) i usually veg in there for a lil longer tho. 3-4 weeks. then the big pots. =) ill let ya kno wat i think of them. plants look great verde.

 

[Sr. Verde]

alllright. thanks guys. yeaa i didnt think to soak mine. =/ shit. lol. hopin they stay moist for a while. that was my problem with the other pellets.. they dried out wayy too quickly.. same with those bio-degradable pots... they dry out so fast and then dry out the soil. and kill off the roots. ill see how they do. ive taken 4 Blue Dream Clones. and 2 purple pineapple clones. gonna see how they do in the cubes. i usually do that same thing as u verde. party cups with holes in it. paper towel germ method. dig a lil hole. toss them in. =) i usually veg in there for a lil longer tho. 3-4 weeks. then the big pots. =) ill let ya kno wat i think of them. plants look great verde.

Thanks bro! Your nugs look quite lovely in that avatar! I'll have to see if you have a journal.


For sure though, that was always my problem, they were too wet, or too dry.and the roots that came out seemed restricted, and easier to damage even though they say they aren't. Also when the plants grow up, you still see that little cube at the base of the plant, with the giant tap root growing out. Then again though, I'm all OCD and it's hard to sleep at night if I think I left the hood crooked , so I have to fine tune every little thing to keep myself sane, I let nothing go!

What soil mix are you using for your seedlings? I literally use like 60% perlite, 40% ffof. The roots seem to grow a lot faster in there, and seem to have more room to breathe. I also like to think having all the perlite, where the taproot will eventually be, helps everything breathe and grow better. I also use about 60% ffof, 40% perlite, or 50%/50% for my big pots. Helps the roots breathe, and everything dries out a little more uniform.