Looking for advices,my first grow ever..this plants are 2 weeks from sprout

jman23

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if your gonna harden off at your site you gonna want them in full shade for like 2 days then you can move them to more sun if you just stick them in the full sun they will fry for sure
 

fo88hrabrim

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btw how much direct sun do they get if there in deep woods must not be much you want at least 7 hours at the min or its just a waste of time and they will just continue on the same path there on
Yeah I will cut the tree branches around the site so the sun drops directly all day,that is about 14-15h a day
 

fo88hrabrim

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if your gonna harden off at your site you gonna want them in full shade for like 2 days then you can move them to more sun if you just stick them in the full sun they will fry for sure
This bit confuses me,so i ask you for further explanation of this shade thing as I know not much about this part (hardening) that is
 

TheSpiderMite

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Transplant them into 1 gallon pots with a soil mix leave them outside for a couple hours bring them inside for a couple hours for about week imagine how hard this is for me I live in a locust infested area. How well disguised is this guerilla site?
 

missnu

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Whatever lights you are using need to be closer to the tops of the plants...and make sure to not feed them til they are much larger...don't leave them in those cups too long, but they should be fine for a little bit still... and dont' water til the cup or pot gets light...super light..
 

TheSpiderMite

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The suns intensity will be too strong for the seedling and possibly burn them so leaving them in shade will let them adjust to the climate without having this problem.
 

fo88hrabrim

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Transplant them into 1 gallon pots with a soil mix leave them outside for a couple hours bring them inside for a couple hours for about week imagine how hard this is for me I live in a locust infested area. How well disguised is this guerilla site?
This site don't need disguise as it too deep and too dense for anyone without a machete to even think to go there,
Its sort of combination of light jungle and dense forest,its not too humid and not too dry..perfect if ya ask me
I'll post pictures off it tomorrow when i come back from
 

fo88hrabrim

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well if you can get your plants to survive and get that much sun in there you will be doing great should get a good yield with that also can i ask why your starting so late mine have been out since may 30th
I was traveling,and brought seeds with me just month ago







Took this picture and just wondering can seedlings survive with its first pair of leaves dry or gone?
 

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TheSpiderMite

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Those are the cotyledon or seedling leaves all plants lose them why did you lose them so early in the stage though too much heat from that incandescent?
 

DJAJGROWSTOO

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get that a-foil out of there would be the first thing id say. afoil is bad. also u might be over watering, only water once every 2 days or so.
 

TheSpiderMite

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It will keep on growing those just supplement the plant for a few weeks then it must get nutrients from nature or feeding.
 

fo88hrabrim

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get that a-foil out of there would be the first thing id say. afoil is bad. also u might be over watering, only water once every 2 days or so.
With this improvised card box and incandescents foil was a must to amplify that little light I had..
but yeah I'll make me foiless grow box for my next grow next week i'm putting some autos in it
and I watered this once a day because incandescents dried the earth out
 

fo88hrabrim

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It will keep on growing those just supplement the plant for a few weeks then it must get nutrients from nature or feeding.
I've seen that pretty much tomato nutes are good,would you advise something like that or some brand name nutes with shipment available else than US
 

TheSpiderMite

Active Member
Tomato nute will be fine cannabis and tomato take in the same amount of nutrients ratio remember if you go into a grow shop ask what stuff is good for growing the best "tomatoes" remember don't follow everything I say experiment and see what work best with you.
 

fo88hrabrim

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Tomato nute will be fine cannabis and tomato take in the same amount of nutrients ratio remember if you go into a grow shop ask what stuff is good for growing the best "tomatoes" remember don't follow everything I say experiment and see what work best with you.
Yeah,thanks mate
I'm gonna post more pictures of these progress and the autos I'm puttin in few days
this site has a good feedback
 

Dr Kynes

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This bit confuses me,so i ask you for further explanation of this shade thing as I know not much about this part (hardening) that is
hardening off is a process of acclimatization to the harsher conditions outside. people who work indoors would drop from heat stroke in the job i did for years (seen it happen). the new kids had light duties until they were ready to do the heavy work in the fields. just like after a long winter in school kids who dash ou on summer vacation almost invariably get nasty sunburns. plants are the same way. they have to be toughened up before facing the elements outside where water is harder to get, nutrients are less abundant, and light can be far stronger then they are used to.

before a plant nursery sells a garden plant, those plants generally have 2 weeks of increasing exposure to the outside elements, and less care. this is done just to make them survive outside. we care for our seedlings like they are precious special snowflakes, but outside they are just ordinary plants facing the pests heat droughts and wind. your plants are too small and delicate for hardening off. if you plant them outside like that they will simply not survive. this is not negativity this is biology. once those plants hit the woods they will be on the menu of numerous hungry insects, birds, rodents, and other herbivores. they will have limited access to water, and heavy soils which may in fact be unsuited to plant life.

unless the area you are preparing was home to large numbers of grasses or other small plants your dope will most likely not grow there. if the area is a clearing with limited plant growth (the easy option for planting outdoors, and the most common choice for noobs) then WHY were no plants living there already? the answer is most likely soil toxins deposited by the trees and bushes nearby to reduce competition for food and water from undergrowth. Many plants (cedars, oaks, junipers, heathers, broomes, etc...) produce these toxins specifically to combat upstart foliage taking their water and nutrients. unless you drop a shitload of sweat and materials into your clearing, the soil will most likely not grow shit, no matter how much light and water you give it. in even the best prepared clearing with rich soil and ample water your dope will be way behind on the growth scale. all the other plants around will be tough, woody, fibrous and well established while your tiny little pot plants will be tasty young greens for earwigs, slugs snails rodents beetles birds, etc etc etc... even the best garden plot right by your back door would be insufficient to grow those plants as small as they are. there are too many hungry critters and not enough tasty tiny plants for your little dope plants to survive.
 

fo88hrabrim

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Thank you Kyness for this story post
Quite few things above that I stated that you might have not seen
I prepared the site(dug it properly)
sprayed the whole area with neem oil mixed pesticide that does not kill but repel and confuse pests and bugs to further produce,I brought my soil and I'll mix it in with same mixture as seedlings are now,on my location there is no rodents or wild animals(just non venomous snakes) just with a precaution I've put human pee and hair around the site which always works for all mammals.
I will proceed with hardening for a 5-6 days,then take em on the site
4h a day on the sun should accustom seedling to take the sun in
I see you have some experience and I look forward to get advices in near future
 
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