Who's Got The Fostiest Buds? Let's See How Frosty A Bud Can Really Get?

chb444220

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you got it man. and yeaa its supposesd to be even hotter today.. ughhhh. only have an AC in my kithen.. might have to pull up a chair and sit in front of it. yeaaa im just a small time grower too. just a nice hobby. might sell a lil to a couple friends and family. but thats about it. =) yeaa we had a MassHole thread a while back. idk wat happened to it..?
 

sandiegojack2

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funny shit guy! I'm home 24/7 taking care of wife has hasimoto's (swelling of the brain) and quit work 2 year's ago....money's tight but we'll make it...just no money for reefer so....haven't grown in a few year's last time was middlesex fell's reservation...and lost some to theive's... so now can only do inside...but manage my gheto grow for nice frosty bud's you dream about...my house is smelling a little "sweet" so have to get some ono to put at the top of cellar stair's!!will be cropping in three week's have clone's in clone room ready!! see pic jack..clone's ready!!G13 LSD.jpghome depot T5's 14ea.and two 200 watt cfl's vege clone.jpgView attachment 2221952going from A-cup toDD-cup!!.jpgView attachment 2221955
 

chb444220

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the plants look great man. nice and frosty! wat strain is it again?? im sorry to hear about ur wife. =/ good shes got sum1 like u to be able to stay home and take care of her/keep her company. =) does she smoke? wonder if it would help with her condition? have u looked into an ionizer before? i have an air purifier.. which has an ionizer in it.. had it for years now.. for a while.. it was my only source of air circulation.. just got a new fan a couple weeks ago tho. but im tellin ya man.. u can sit in my room.. and wouldnt even kno anything was growing in my closet.. cant smell it at all.. only downfall.. wen u harvest. and dry/cure.. there is a lack of smell to it. =/ doesnt smell "as dank" as it could or as sum of the stuff you buy on the street. i men wen u break a nice nug open. u can deff smell it.. dont get me wrong.. u can still smell it... and it smells great. but its not overwhelming. but if ur not selling it. it doesnt really matter. =) i would look into 1. had mine for about 5 years id say. been using it for growing for 3-4 years now. and have yet to change the filter or anything... lol. idk if thats exactly a good thing.. lol. just sayin. doesnt need much upkeep. =)

if u go to homedepot.com and type in air purifier.. u can find sum.. also i just checked home depot.. type in ionizer for the search.. they have a table fan with an iozier. =D im sure that would help as well. wish i remembered where i got mne. its made by holmes. actually.. here.. just searched google for it.. and i found my exact model. on ebay for like $20 bucks... i would deff recommend it!! heres the link

**Anyone looking for something to help with odor control check out this link. I have this make and model.. and you can sit in my room.. and not even smell the plants growing in my closet... even with the door open! deff recommend it. check it out. $20.00 on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holmes-HAP-240-Air-Cleaner-Purifier-W-Ionizer-Table-Office-Desktop-White-/160827494871?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257210d1d7

take care Jack
 

sandiegojack2

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chb..have ozonizer works great but only run in room next to grow as it will remove smell from the plant's too!! ONA is the stuff one can top of stairs where smell leaks and nothing just didn't do yet really love the smell!! Ionizer's are better but your unit look's good I'll get one!! Thank's my friend! jack
 

sandiegojack2

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CHB>>>Thank you my friend..I'm currently growing Barney's LSD and G13/haze really streches!! ordered holmes last night THANK"S!...Keep smiling!! jack
 

sandiegojack2

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Post a pic or two...we all start somewhere!!maybe we can be of help? my first grow was awful and almost gave up except for a friend.....been growing over 50 year's..you can grow just like any of us it's all about learning going slow and steedy my grow's aren't internet grow's they are real and therefore take a lot longer than "advertised! my average grow from starting seed's is not 95 day's more like 120 day's...cloning on line say's 2 week's for root's but I prune off the first and it take 4 week's for much better prepared plant's and will bloom forever!! ha ha...if you have question's just ask! most people on here are experienced and willing to help if possible! my grow is ghetto but doe's the trick! built from scratch $255.00 a lot off of craig's list for free...62yo fart lacking fund's for 'Proffesional" set-up jack..
 

sandiegojack2

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Hapa!...If I wanted BUD PORN>>would grow one no lst and get that 36" cola mother but as you can see I split my plant's energy to many area's thus better yield's but no real BUD PORN! I love my plant's but really not BUD PORN!..I grow slow and don't pump the plant's only get what she want's to give!! No growth hormone's and little if any nute's (sometime's give's me CA_MG Deficiency but treat and all set...Doesn't smoke like ass or burn like a road flare!....very sweet what I consider some of the best! (we all feel this way due to our pride and effort's!) ANYONE CAN GROW>>>THEY ARE WEED"S!!!!just help them out and they will return the favor 10 fold!! jack Wishing you the best with your grow brother!!Apreciate your comment's thank you! jack
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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buds are looking great free! nice work man. i've got mine in the dark right now till monday morning. then i'm gonna chop 'em and hang them up to dry.
 

FR33MASON

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buds are looking great free! nice work man. i've got mine in the dark right now till monday morning. then i'm gonna chop 'em and hang them up to dry.
Thanks Scooby. In the basement where I am at, the humidity is less than 20% so I only hung mine for just over 48 hours then I use a paper bag in a plastic bag for the next 48 hours and now are in jars. No grassy, hay smell so I seem to be on track.

Happy news on your harvest for Monday...Good way to nix monday blues...if that exists in Costa Rica hehe.
You probably have more ideal conditions for a slower dry. I think I am going back to my old way of hanging with fan leaves on the Jack The Ripper which by the way is at 28 days flowering today.

Here is a couple pics:




Super bushy for not being topped.
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Thanks Scooby. In the basement where I am at, the humidity is less than 20% so I only hung mine for just over 48 hours then I use a paper bag in a plastic bag for the next 48 hours and now are in jars. No grassy, hay smell so I seem to be on track.

Happy news on your harvest for Monday...Good way to nix monday blues...if that exists in Costa Rica hehe.
You probably have more ideal conditions for a slower dry. I think I am going back to my old way of hanging with fan leaves on the Jack The Ripper which by the way is at 28 days flowering today.

Here is a couple pics:

Super bushy for not being topped.
nice bro. yea, kinda hard to any monday blues down here.

it's the other way around for me. way too much humidity. i have a seperate tent and dehu here at the house just for drying and curing. i usually keep the temp around 75 and the humidity at 50% for drying? what do you think is ideal temp/humidity? seems to be a big debate. i like to slow cure but for drying it usually takes me about 7 days at 50%.

had a quick turnaround on those last girls. maybe i got my weeks messed up. anyway, my other girls have only been in flower like 16-17 days and i was already pulling the other out. usually it's more like 30-35. they did finish up pretty quick though. these are sitting in the dark for 24 hours right now. had to take them out the other day while i was doing some work in the tent. they love the sun!

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FR33MASON

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nice bro. yea, kinda hard to any monday blues down here.

it's the other way around for me. way too much humidity. i have a seperate tent and dehu here at the house just for drying and curing. i usually keep the temp around 75 and the humidity at 50% for drying? what do you think is ideal temp/humidity? seems to be a big debate. i like to slow cure but for drying it usually takes me about 7 days at 50%.
You are so nice to let your girls out to stretch their branches and sun themselves...That'll make for some happy buds.

As far as the whole fast / slow dry and cure issue, I see it as this:
The combinations of fast dry, long cure and slow dry and shorter cure are in my opinion, six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Either one, if instituted correctly, can produce superior results.

In the world of dehydration, the quicker you dry something, the more of the properties and qualities of the product being preserved is kept. With Mj that is good to a point. If you dry too quickly and thoroughly, you preserve things like chlorophyll which is one thing you don't want in your smoke. That is where your cure comes into play. Curing is nothing more than controlled decomposition. Many things that we enjoy consuming in life are subjected to controlled decomposition such as wine, beer, cigars, cheese, beef, etc. and Mj depends on the curing of it's flowers to become something nice and plesant.

If you are drying in an environment that has a relative humidity of 50% or greater, you are slow drying, and slow drying to me is drying and curing at the same time as the plant matter begins to break down while hanging and once your buds are to a level of dryness, you continue the curing process in humidors until it turns into something that YOU like.

Personally, I think that the drying should be at least slowed down to 5 days so that the chlorophyll and starches can begin to break down and as much of essential oils are retained in the bud and to me, slow dried and cured bud has always been a little smoother smoke.

I try and keep the humidity in my jars at around 50 - 55% for as long as possible. My smoking buds are usually around 25 to 30% moisture and all I know is my friends and family like what is produced and that is what counts...and it all boils down to TIME... Regardless of the steps taken...the longer the cure, the better your smoke will be.

Edit: One thing is decaroboxylation only occurs in an anerobic environment so I have always wondered if you were to use CO2 or N2 in your jars, if that would speed up the process at all and affect your end result in a good ar bad way.
 

KidneyStoner420

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I try and keep the humidity in my jars at around 50 - 55% for as long as possible. My smoking buds are usually around 25 to 30% moisture and all I know is my friends and family like what is produced and that is what counts...and it all boils down to TIME... Regardless of the steps taken...the longer the cure, the better your smoke will be.

Really? Isn't 25-30% really dry? I keep mine in the jar at about 58% and it's not too dry. Just seems 25% would just turn it all to dust.
 

MajorCoco

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Really? Isn't 25-30% really dry? I keep mine in the jar at about 58% and it's not too dry. Just seems 25% would just turn it all to dust.
I think he's saying he cures at 50-55, but once he pulls a bud out to smoke it dries up more. As long as the cure is done properly I don't mind crumbly weed at all as it's easy to prepare, but then I smoke joints, not spliffs, so maybe that makes a difference for me.
 

FR33MASON

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Really? Isn't 25-30% really dry? I keep mine in the jar at about 58% and it's not too dry. Just seems 25% would just turn it all to dust.
Sorry, to clarify, I like to dry my buds out for smoking (25 to 30%). they are stored at around at least 50% humidity and some I even try and keep as high as 62% humidity.
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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You are so nice to let your girls out to stretch their branches and sun themselves...That'll make for some happy buds.

As far as the whole fast / slow dry and cure issue, I see it as this:
The combinations of fast dry, long cure and slow dry and shorter cure are in my opinion, six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Either one, if instituted correctly, can produce superior results.

In the world of dehydration, the quicker you dry something, the more of the properties and qualities of the product being preserved is kept. With Mj that is good to a point. If you dry too quickly and thoroughly, you preserve things like chlorophyll which is one thing you don't want in your smoke. That is where your cure comes into play. Curing is nothing more than controlled decomposition. Many things that we enjoy consuming in life are subjected to controlled decomposition such as wine, beer, cigars, cheese, beef, etc. and Mj depends on the curing of it's flowers to become something nice and plesant.

If you are drying in an environment that has a relative humidity of 50% or greater, you are slow drying, and slow drying to me is drying and curing at the same time as the plant matter begins to break down while hanging and once your buds are to a level of dryness, you continue the curing process in humidors until it turns into something that YOU like.

Personally, I think that the drying should be at least slowed down to 5 days so that the chlorophyll and starches can begin to break down and as much of essential oils are retained in the bud and to me, slow dried and cured bud has always been a little smoother smoke.

I try and keep the humidity in my jars at around 50 - 55% for as long as possible. My smoking buds are usually around 25 to 30% moisture and all I know is my friends and family like what is produced and that is what counts...and it all boils down to TIME... Regardless of the steps taken...the longer the cure, the better your smoke will be.

Edit: One thing is decaroboxylation only occurs in an anerobic environment so I have always wondered if you were to use CO2 or N2 in your jars, if that would speed up the process at all and affect your end result in a good ar bad way.
nice free. thanks for sharing that info.

the girls sue do like to get out in the sun every once and i while. i wish i coul take them out in flower but they are just too bulky at that point. i only take them out in veg when i have to do stuff in the room. might start taking them out more often though. i would love to be able to do an outdoor grow but it's just not possible here with the bugs and humidity. if it were legal i'd look into a greenhouse; but even then i'd be dealing with some issues.

i always hang dry my plants in a seperate tent i have setup. the dehumidifier keeps it around 40-45% humidity. it usually takes me 7 days to dry everything. then i jar it up and begin curing. i use those little round cigar box hygrometers. they work great for curing in jars. i've always cured for another 7-10 days before bagging up the product that i'm going to sell. after that the smoke that i keep is constantly curing.

that would be a cool experiment with the Co2. i'm gonna do a little research on that and see what i can find. i'll keep you posted if i see anything about it.
 

iNDoorGrowBro

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This is my first grow. I got these seeds from a friend, regular seeded bud ("bagseed", or w/e you wanna call it). This plant has been flowering just under 6 weeks.. =)





 

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