The most over rated strains

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
its been ridiculous for a long time .. if you look at attitude and look at what their best selling strains are, you can see how the "hype sells so well"
fem seeds og kush, cheese, whatever is the latest cup winner, tangerine dream etc will be the best selling seeds at that time..
it would seem most folk buying seeds are new growers following the trends, so breeders are giving them what they want "hype" lol

now its green crack
girl scout cookies
casey jones, crosses etc etc
what will be next months hipster flavor of the month .. or was that last months LOL ??

peace :)
Yeah I prefer clone hunting from legit, non pest infestation having dispensaries.....

GDP ( Grand Daddy Purp ) is another one thats been used and abused, they have like 20 different cuts of GDP...You can still find the original " Kens Cut" at certain places in Cali.
 

Beeb Beebman

Active Member
Yeah I prefer clone hunting from legit, non pest infestation having dispensaries.....

GDP ( Grand Daddy Purp ) is another one thats been used and abused, they have like 20 different cuts of GDP...You can still find the original " Kens Cut" at certain places in Cali.
Totally agree with that. The "purps" is just for bag appeal if you ask me. There probably are some really kill purple strains out there, but i'm pretty much over it. I find myself taking a liking to landraces and such. Thinks like indicas from the Ketama valley or Mazar Kush. World of Seeds has some pretty cool offerings. I've found some very nice genetics on Cannazon, things that were quite far from your regular "xxxx kush" or "xxxx cheese" or "something-berry". I feel that some breeders are working with better gene pools than others, while there are some who are just in it for a quick buck. Just my .02
 

Grojak

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Thank's for beating me to it Racer... Online or at least on RIU there is only one King of overrated.

Anything TGA is overrated... pheno selection is a "breeders" job, not the consumer. I get it you can variation with every pack of seeds by anyone, but slight variation, not 4 completely different plants. How confusing must it be for a newbie to start with 3 strains of TGA gear than go to something stable (say a Sensi, Some, Serious bean), they may even be confused and thank that the latter companies have bad beans because there wasn't variation, just one solid dank ass pheno.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Thank's for beating me to it Racer... Online or at least on RIU there is only one King of overrated.

Anything TGA is overrated... pheno selection is a "breeders" job, not the consumer. I get it you can variation with every pack of seeds by anyone, but slight variation, not 4 completely different plants. How confusing must it be for a newbie to start with 3 strains of TGA gear than go to something stable (say a Sensi, Some, Serious bean), they may even be confused and thank that the latter companies have bad beans because there wasn't variation, just one solid dank ass pheno.
lol, yah, i try to keep my sub bashing to a limited few threads and between my friends and all.. most of them know not to even mention his name around me, lol...
but i agree, pheno hunting should be up to the breeder.. they should pick the best one or two from a line and work on stabilizing them before releasing a strain.. 3 or 4 pheno's out of a 10 pack of beans is completely unacceptable to me in this day and age..
just my $.02, and what do i know??
 

Clankie

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lol, yah, i try to keep my sub bashing to a limited few threads and between my friends and all
Well, I don't mean to be a n00b, but I do not have a lot of experience with seed banks. For years, I got clones from a guy who bought all his stock from Sensi and Mr Nice, so it wasn't a particular issue. However, with my most recent attitude order I got 4 seeds from TGA with my freebies, and so I'm a little curious as to what the hate is about. In reviewing their website, I noticed that most of their stock does come from hybrids of already hybridized plants; which seems a little funky to me, but that does seem to be what the 'cool kids' are doing. Do they not stabilize at all? I am used to expecting two or three phenos out of the same seedstock, but that is mostly out of stock bred by myself or my friends, and frankly I have never had a pheno that couldn't be coaxed into producing a quality yield, as long as the parents were of suitable quality. Of course, we always grew much less hybridized plants than seem to contribute to most of subcool's strains. Do I run a real chance of getting crap from the TGA seed? I got regular seeds, and if I can't be assured of the male's quality (with only 2 seeds each I might not get a female) I don't want to bother with collecting pollen from it.

On a note related to the topic: I live in Colorado, where MMJ is legal, and in my opinion it has nearly completely ruined my enjoyment of the cannabis industry. The market is flooded with cheap shit, grown in giant warehouses, and usually sorely lacking in flushing. There are hundreds of dispensaries passing fake herb and clones off as other strains, all the while making it harder and more expensive to patients who actually need quality medicine for medicinal reasons (such as my patients) to gain access to the strains they need at actual medicinal quality. So as far as a strain being overrated, I don't think that's so much a problem in my area as a general lowering in quality, "walmartization" if you will, of the whole cannabis community. Quality bud is quality bud, and it all has different effects depending on what you are looking for.
 

teoborg

Active Member
OG kush is my second most over rated strain.

Also, yes, i smoked the real White Widow from Green House Seed Co unless you're accusing them of selling fake seeds.
Well, the real WW is bred by Shantibaba. Also the seeds by the GreenHouseSeeds aren't the most stable. Check around..
 

bluntmassa1

Well-Known Member
subcool has good weed but not stable strains some breed and some just make good crosses. breeders grow 50-200 seeds at a time for pheno selection tga dosen't have a big warehouse like some of the more advanced breeders I can build a grow room just as nice as subcools if you watch the weed nerd on youtube you will see I don't dout he grows better than me but you can make crosses just as good with a few years practice and if you work on a strain for years you can make it stable tga has around 20 strains and it takes a few years to stablize a strain judging by his breeding room hes a pollen chucker plain and simple and all his strains are the same price which tells me their all just as good and you need to go pheno hunting in all his strains don't get me wrong you can still get great phenos from him but you can also find a great pheno on your own cross
Well, I don't mean to be a n00b, but I do not have a lot of experience with seed banks. For years, I got clones from a guy who bought all his stock from Sensi and Mr Nice, so it wasn't a particular issue. However, with my most recent attitude order I got 4 seeds from TGA with my freebies, and so I'm a little curious as to what the hate is about. In reviewing their website, I noticed that most of their stock does come from hybrids of already hybridized plants; which seems a little funky to me, but that does seem to be what the 'cool kids' are doing. Do they not stabilize at all? I am used to expecting two or three phenos out of the same seedstock, but that is mostly out of stock bred by myself or my friends, and frankly I have never had a pheno that couldn't be coaxed into producing a quality yield, as long as the parents were of suitable quality. Of course, we always grew much less hybridized plants than seem to contribute to most of subcool's strains. Do I run a real chance of getting crap from the TGA seed? I got regular seeds, and if I can't be assured of the male's quality (with only 2 seeds each I might not get a female) I don't want to bother with collecting pollen from it.

On a note related to the topic: I live in Colorado, where MMJ is legal, and in my opinion it has nearly completely ruined my enjoyment of the cannabis industry. The market is flooded with cheap shit, grown in giant warehouses, and usually sorely lacking in flushing. There are hundreds of dispensaries passing fake herb and clones off as other strains, all the while making it harder and more expensive to patients who actually need quality medicine for medicinal reasons (such as my patients) to gain access to the strains they need at actual medicinal quality. So as far as a strain being overrated, I don't think that's so much a problem in my area as a general lowering in quality, "walmartization" if you will, of the whole cannabis community. Quality bud is quality bud, and it all has different effects depending on what you are looking for.
 

bluntmassa1

Well-Known Member
ya shanti took the mother and father when he left green house and opened mr. nice franco's never even seen the parent plants they just recreated it
Well, the real WW is bred by Shantibaba. Also the seeds by the GreenHouseSeeds aren't the most stable. Check around..
 

Sir.Ganga

New Member
Well, the real WW is bred by Shantibaba. Also the seeds by the GreenHouseSeeds aren't the most stable. Check around..
Well I have dealt with GHS now for almost 10 years and in all the strains I have tried...I have never had a problem and have produced some really dank crops. I would recommend them to anyone and if you believe all the hype and bullshit then you fell for it and their tatics worked. WWF wrestling kinda runs the same way.
 

FR33MASON

Active Member
subcool has good weed but not stable strains some breed and some just make good crosses. breeders grow 50-200 seeds at a time for pheno selection tga dosen't have a big warehouse like some of the more advanced breeders I can build a grow room just as nice as subcools if you watch the weed nerd on youtube you will see I don't dout he grows better than me but you can make crosses just as good with a few years practice and if you work on a strain for years you can make it stable tga has around 20 strains and it takes a few years to stablize a strain judging by his breeding room hes a pollen chucker plain and simple and all his strains are the same price which tells me their all just as good and you need to go pheno hunting in all his strains don't get me wrong you can still get great phenos from him but you can also find a great pheno on your own cross
For someone like me, TGA is a great thing as I only have enough room to flower 4 plants and I know what I like so TGA actually helps streamline that issue of finding a pheno that I like.
 

SketchyGrower

Well-Known Member
Well I have dealt with GHS now for almost 10 years and in all the strains I have tried...I have never had a problem and have produced some really dank crops. I would recommend them to anyone and if you believe all the hype and bullshit then you fell for it and their tatics worked. WWF wrestling kinda runs the same way.
GHS is a joke and I "have " run them...

Mr.Nice,GGG,TGA,RD,Bodhi,Next generation,CV and Alphakronik would run circles around any GHS strain..
 

bluntmassa1

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I don't think greenhouse is that bad mr. nice is definetlty better than green house imo but I've seen some grows of super lemon haze and it looked damn good and I've heard good things about lemon skunk their far from the king though
GHS is a joke and I "have " run them...

Mr.Nice,GGG,TGA,RD,Bodhi,Next generation,CV and Alphakronik would run circles around any GHS strain..
 

TheChosen

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lol far from the king they're more like the Court Jester because Arjan and Franco are a fucking joke.
 

(818)MedicineMan

New Member
I tend to think most of the strains and crosses that came out in the last 10 or so years are hype. I guess I am too old school. There are not many, if any strains that came out recently that will stand the test of time like NL, Skunk and WW etc. People are into the flavor of the day.

OG has got to be the most over rated stuff along with TGA.
 

skunkd0c

Well-Known Member
some of the best keepers i have found over the years have come from strains that showed phenotype diversity
it would be nice if breeders were honest about the strains they are selling
if a strain is known to be uniform because it is an IBL or has been stabilized via other breeding methods
this does not mean all offspring will be like twins/clones, they will share some similar traits
breeders overplay this and pretend the plants will be more uniform offspring than they actualy are

the most uniform plant i have grown in recent times over the last 5 years or so, is belladona from paridise seeds
i had 4 females and they all looked identical, and tasted the same. however this is without doubt the worst strain i have grown perhaps ever
maybe some of the seedsman junk could be worse, it had zero flavor very dull high, and very little resin, it was a low quality skunk strain

as for subcool, i have only ever grown "the flav" i did not like it, and it was nothing like the descriptions on his site
however i only had 2 females, and one of these plants was a very nice plant, good yield good potency good nuggets , but not a flavor i like (tasted like a very strong lemon haze)

its a bit like going into a restaurant and ordering some food, and receiving a totaly differnt meal to the one you ordered, you are hungry so you eat it anyway and find the meal was still good but it was not what you asked for .. i get why folk are not happy
.. for me growing most strains is like this, breeders are just simply not honest about their strains but as long as you get something half decent folk are not likely to complain too much . maybe that's how most breeders see it

on my most recent run, eisbaer from alphakronic this is nothing like its descriptions, it has 2 very different females, both of which i will not keep

blues from ugorg, this is part of a cubing project and is reportably 87.5% (blues/livers) and 12.5% dj shorts blueberry
from the 5 females i have, only 1 is a keeper, they have similar smell but all have totaly differnt flavours, atleast 2 main phenotypes that seem split 50/50
so it is not as uniform as the 87.5% would suggest, still it has given me a great keeper that i am very happy with

i like to treat it like a lottery, or maybe a lucky dip, you never know what the genetics will bring when you plant your seeds
if you want uniformity, just grow cuttings that other people have collected and decided are good for you

peace :)
 

cotchept

Active Member
OG Kush has been around for 15 years in Cali. It's a little more than a hype or a flavor of the month thing. And to whoever said Trainwreck, you must have grown the GHS variety because the cut is fire.

Overrated:

Cheese - Tasty but weak
Sour Diesel - Tasty but the high last 30 mins max
Anything from Barney's or Greenhouse. I would never give those companies my money.
 
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