When do you get a soul??

Kaendar

Kaendar

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Hepheastus420 said:
What held/holds you back from denying it flat out?

I have prayed for god to visit me in my dreams, the only religious dreams I've ever had were filled with hell fire. If god has to count on my beliefs so bad, why doesn't he come visit me and have a cup of tea? Or wine :lol:

I believe in what is right too. I like morals, they keep me happy.

If christianity is real, I'd like to meet you in person sometime in hell.
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Because ive seen to much to deny it. There is alot of evil on this world, but if you understand why, it will make sense. The time we have on this earth is only a second compared to the eternity our souls live. And to answer your question, the sight of god is too overwhelming for a human.. any man that looks at god will die.

But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."-Exodus 33:20.


 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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Hepheastus420 said:
Oh I'm not angry anymore. How can I be angry at something that I can't believe?

I think cannabis has anger handled anyways :bigjoint:.
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Why do you say that you cant believe? Im sure you are perfectly capable of believing, in fact you said that you used to believe.
 
Cut.Throat.

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Kaendar said:
Because ive seen to much to deny it. There is alot of evil on this world, but if you understand why, it will make sense. The time we have on this earth is only a second compared to the eternity our souls live. And to answer your question, the sight of god is too overwhelming for a human.. any man that looks at god will die.

But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."-Exodus 33:20.


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Just accept the flying spaghetti monster in your heart kaendar. You will be blessed with a heaven full of beer volcanoes and stripper factories.
 
tyler.durden

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Hepheastus420 said:
I kind of agree with you. When I started leaving my religion, I had a strange feeling that made me want to blaspheme religion. Pure anger. Not a good thing.
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I think anger is a fairly normal response toward religion once someone escapes its influence. When you discover that you've been lied to for years (especially by those who love you the most) and have wasted a lot of time and even more of your mind, I feel that anger can be righteous. A few of my friends were very angry when they first reached the conclusion that their religious dogma wasn't reality, much in the same way one feels anger when betrayed by a trusted friend. That anger usually abates after a while, but it can flare up when one witnesses religion's negative consequences and effects around the world...
 
tyler.durden

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Kaendar said:
Because ive seen to much to deny it. There is alot of evil on this world, but if you understand why, it will make sense. The time we have on this earth is only a second compared to the eternity our souls live. And to answer your question, the sight of god is too overwhelming for a human.. any man that looks at god will die.

But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."-Exodus 33:20.


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Hepheastus420

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Kaendar said:
Why do you say that you cant believe? Im sure you are perfectly capable of believing, in fact you said that you used to believe.
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I find it extremely hard.. I've tried praying after losing my religion and I just couldn't do it. It felt awkward.
 
Padawanbater2

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Kaendar said:
Why do you say that you cant believe? Im sure you are perfectly capable of believing, in fact you said that you used to believe.
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Belief is not a choice.

That's why the statement "have you chosen to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior?" is absurd.

I can no more believe in any organized religion than I can believe if I walk off a building I'll float safely to the ground.

Do you understand that example?

Do you understand why belief isn't a choice you get to consciously make?
 
Hepheastus420

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Kaendar said:
Because ive seen to much to deny it. There is alot of evil on this world, but if you understand why, it will make sense. The time we have on this earth is only a second compared to the eternity our souls live. And to answer your question, the sight of god is too overwhelming for a human.. any man that looks at god will die.

But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."-Exodus 33:20.


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I'll take your whole post as a opinion and not a fact.

Personally, I've never understood why a loving god would cause so much destruction. People always say "he works in mysterious ways". But I think that's just a way to dodge the question.

"any man that looks at god will die". I think he means that you only see him when you're dead.

Will you be offended if I ask what you have seen that makes you have a strong faith?
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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tyler.durden said:
I think anger is a fairly normal response toward religion once someone escapes its influence. When you discover that you've been lied to for years (especially by those who love you the most) and have wasted a lot of time and even more of your mind, I feel that anger can be righteous. A few of my friends were very angry when they first reached the conclusion that their religious dogma wasn't reality, much in the same way one feels anger when betrayed by a trusted friend. That anger usually abates after a while, but it can flare up when one witnesses religion's negative consequences and effects around the world...
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That and the fact that I accepted death as a little kid. I didn't bother me. Death was natural.. Then religion came along and made me WANT more. Now I'm spoiled and want more afterlife. It royally fucked me over.
 
Heisenberg

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Kaendar said:
Why do you say that you cant believe? Im sure you are perfectly capable of believing, in fact you said that you used to believe.
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I have not seen you make one single statement that others did not have to think through for you. At some point in your life you missed the basic lesson most of us learn, which is to think about things before you say them. All of your opinions depend on the absence of thought, which makes them not opinions at all, but prejudices. Have you ever stopped to wonder why you take the bigoted position on everything? I don't see how you manage to even wipe your ass without giving yourself a lobotomy.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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Hepheastus420 said:
I'll take your whole post as a opinion and not a fact.

Personally, I've never understood why a loving god would cause so much destruction. People always say "he works in mysterious ways". But I think that's just a way to dodge the question.

"any man that looks at god will die". I think he means that you only see him when you're dead.

Will you be offended if I ask what you have seen that makes you have a strong faith?
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Read this Heph, its worded better than I could have.
http://www.ucg.org/booklet/there-really-devil/did-god-create-devil/why-does-god-allow-satan-influence-mankind/
 
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