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W Dragon

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Not sure yet depends on size and cost until the 1st 1 comes down then i'll change things as i go along, as soon as i get the keys i'll be up the attic having a look then making plans ideally i want room to run 2 600's and then i'll make a small mother and cloning area and use the sides for storage but 1st thing will be putting power up there then strengthening by running baton the opposite way to the joists before boarding so the ceiling doesn't sag. I might put a tent in there for the 1st 1 just to save time and build it up properly when the need isn't so great i should be in by 1st Sept so gotta get cracking for xmas
Defo sounds like you have a good plan mate, I never reinforced my floor and it's been playing on my mind, I'm just hoping the boards are spreading the weight, truth be told mate I had run out of money and just wanted to get it going, the ceilings here weren't great from the start due to loads of heavy boxes just being thrown up there and not placed on the joists so, so far there hasn't been any change in appearance apart from a couple of the plasterboard screws popped but I tapped them back in and filled over them, it's not just upstairs some of the plasterboard screws have popped in the living room aswell I think the job was done on the cheap, but it all helps me as nothing looks out of place and the ceilings look better now than they did when we moved in.
 

W Dragon

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@3EYES should mention mine are running on 14" centres with a reinforced cross section so I boarded the 4 squares between the reinforced (load bearing beams) so should be fine for a good while atleast touch wood.
 

3eyes

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The only reason for strengthening is the house will be mine so if i fuck it up i got to fix it lol but i'm hoping i can generate some $ before i move but if all else fails i'll increase the cash back on the mortgage to get going
 

W Dragon

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The white russian has been dispatched aswell so shouldn't be long now, also I ditched the other seeds I started they were dragging arse and I don't have the patience to be waiting on slow seedlings.
 

W Dragon

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The only reason for strengthening is the house will be mine so if i fuck it up i got to fix it lol but i'm hoping i can generate some $ before i move but if all else fails i'll increase the cash back on the mortgage to get going
Have you had a look up there yet mate to see what you'll be working with? totally understand not wanting to have to repair your joists and ceilings, chances are if it's an old house you'll have black lathem plaster ceilings and you don't want to be replacing them until you absolutely have to, messy as fuck and the dust gets everywhere (I learned that lesson the hard way lol)
 

IC3M4L3

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ya lucky bastard if that were mine I would have already converted it, I've converted a couple of attics so far and spent a small fortune along the way, the last house would have been ideal but the ceilings couldn't take the weight of the sterling board when screwing them to the joists and the spare bedroom ceiling come down, so that was the end of that, this one seems to be holding out ok for now, but still wouldn't fancy taking libertys with too much weight, It's surprising how much weight boarding out an attic adds I use either 3/4" or inch thick sterling (osb2) and then hang everything from the joists to help keep the weight on the floor down.
well now u come to mention it the attick in my house is big yes but walking across the rafters is no fun lol fukers bend,,,, only thing id do is put a lil floorinn down and get sum kingspan insulation for up on the roof betwen the rafters maybe not kingspan coz its expensive but summet like BUT i dont need to i got a nice walk in room wat i could happily do 20 plants in with 2x600 lights with enough extraction :))
 

W Dragon

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well now u come to mention it the attick in my house is big yes but walking across the rafters is no fun lol fukers bend,,,, only thing id do is put a lil floorinn down and get sum kingspan insulation for up on the roof betwen the rafters maybe not kingspan coz its expensive but summet like BUT i dont need to i got a nice walk in room wat i could happily do 20 plants in with 2x600 lights with enough extraction :))
If your rafters bend under your weight that means the ceilings will be aswell you defo have to reinforce it all up there otherwise all your ceilings would pop and chances are whatever they've used up there wouldn't be taking a lot of weight, I can't even guess what they've done mate as by trade I'm a roofer and don't spend a lot of time in attics. prob best stay in ya walk in room mate atleast that way you know you won't end up in the room below you lmao
 

W Dragon

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well lads I'm off up in to the attic, wish I could say I was gonna do some work but I'm not, got 10mins of pottering about gonna grab a joint or 2 and then evict the misses off the tv so I can play on call of duty. got a good few hours work up there 2mo but it's loud (stapling insulation to joists) and all the neighbours are chatting away outside and don't want to draw any more attention as I spent days up there cutting boards, screwing and stapling. I bet they think I'm making it bomb proof already had a couple of the neighbours ask the misses, they don't ask me as I just grunt at them they're my neighbours not friends keep ya fucking nose out is my opinion lol
 

IC3M4L3

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If your rafters bend under your weight that means the ceilings will be aswell you defo have to reinforce it all up there otherwise all your ceilings would pop and chances are whatever they've used up there wouldn't be taking a lot of weight, I can't even guess what they've done mate as by trade I'm a roofer and don't spend a lot of time in attics. prob best stay in ya walk in room mate atleast that way you know you won't end up in the room below you lmao
ou house is one of the with NO supporting walls i the actual house thers 3 in my block im the middle and everywall in my house apart from the sides ovbviously are all plasterboard .i.e i could rip avery wall out downstairs and up and nothing would come down from above :( madness,,,kicthen cupborads fastened to a stud wall lol

n yeh the biggest mistake u can make isgetting involved with the neighbours
 

W Dragon

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ou house is one of the with NO supporting walls i the actual house thers 3 in my block im the middle and everywall in my house apart from the sides ovbviously are all plasterboard .i.e i could rip avery wall out downstairs and up and nothing would come down from above :( madness,,,kicthen cupborads fastened to a stud wall lol
fucking hell mate I've never lived in a house like that, down here in Wales the houses were built to last, some of the new builds are all knocked up with plasterboard walls etc but luckily all the houses I've lived in have had solid brick walls, and most of the walls are used as load bearing, but then again the houses down here are old and will out live us, defo want to stay outta ya attic if your load bearing from the outside walls alone
 

IC3M4L3

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fucking hell mate I've never lived in a house like that, down here in Wales the houses were built to last, some of the new builds are all knocked up with plasterboard walls etc but luckily all the houses I've lived in have had solid brick walls, and most of the walls are used as load bearing, but then again the houses down here are old and will out live us, defo want to stay outta ya attic if your load bearing from the outside walls alone

its a old hopuse built in 70's i think but they wer disgned b a woman and thats 100% true

il just stik to my room as yup not 1 load baring wall other than each side fucking madness lol
 

mrt1980

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could you not use the 2m behind the chimney as a flower area and the rest for a small clone/mother area? the upside to the chimney breast where it is it'll make putting a curtain up easier and you still have a dark area when you open the hatch so as that you don't get obvious orange glow beaming down? just thinking out loud mate as it's hard to visualise without seeing it.
id only be able to fit 2 plants in there. ive never seen an attick like it before lol. the chimney is blocked off at the top so i might look into taking it out to make room. if i had the cash id get 1 of my builder mates to do a shed for me.
 

3eyes

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Have you had a look up there yet mate to see what you'll be working with? totally understand not wanting to have to repair your joists and ceilings, chances are if it's an old house you'll have black lathem plaster ceilings and you don't want to be replacing them until you absolutely have to, messy as fuck and the dust gets everywhere (I learned that lesson the hard way lol)

I've ripped a few ceilings down and hacked off walls in my time yes mate your right the shit gets everywhere even look like you got eye liner on lol i think they have been done and are now plaster board but i'll properly check it over when i get the keys i've been in there to view it but forgot most of it now lol
 

dura72

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well nice couple of hours fishing, 2lb rainbow trout.....now for a bath and out for whiskey methinks.
 

W Dragon

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its a old hopuse built in 70's i think but they wer disgned b a woman and thats 100% true

il just stik to my room as yup not 1 load baring wall other than each side fucking madness lol
I've worked with a few female architects and so far no complaints, one in particular was shit hot at her job!!!! knew every detail inside and out and left nothing to question there's so many out there that will leave alot of details down to the builders it's unreal, If I wasn't so dull I could probably do it lol
lol the 70's that's a new build in some parts down here mate, I imagine 3eyes has seen some real old ones, we got a few that time forgot, I don't think I've ever lived in a house younger than 70yrs, the house I grew up in didn't have any running water, gas or electrics when my parents bought it, coal fires and a tin bath also they had an outside toilet lmao the man who lived there before them died in his 90's and it was his family home so fuck know's how old it is now.
 

W Dragon

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id only be able to fit 2 plants in there. ive never seen an attick like it before lol. the chimney is blocked off at the top so i might look into taking it out to make room. if i had the cash id get 1 of my builder mates to do a shed for me.
next time your up there take some pics mate, I'm sure between all us useless fuckers we could figure something out???
 

dura72

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coat of pva n skim straight over it
...damn right!! trying to scrap it off is horrific and even if you do manage tae get it fuckin off you'll need to skim the bloody walls anyways coz you'll have dug fuckin holes all over the place......been there done that ...probably why im not a decorator anymore as well.
 
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