yellowing

shagalicious

Active Member
low ph
or root bound badly
or potassium deficiency
or drowned repeatedly/water stressed

possibly the onset of powdery mildew

eliminate the ones that you know it can't be
test for the others in order of simplicity to test
 

Slipon

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do you feed them anything ?

realy need some more info .. what kind of pots/soil aso.

could be N. defesensy but could also be lots of other things ..
 
sure I feed em. I had been givin em 1/2 strength organic nutes.I increased it now though because I think they looked like they had deficiencys. 18L pots. No time release nutes in the soil only a small amount for the first few weeks.
 

Slipon

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ok .. so I guess they have enough room .. 18L schould be able to keep em all the way ..

might just be under feed a bit .. you could try to go up a bit in strenges on one of the plants and see how the new growth look in a few days ..
just so you dont burn all your girls ..
 

Alexander Supertramp

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The discoloring seems to be pretty random and scattered. May be a slight Magnesium deficiency. I would just keep doing what your doing for a weeks or so and monitor. If it does not spread or get worse then upping your nutes may have done he trick.
 

Slipon

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The discoloring seems to be pretty random and scattered. May be a slight Magnesium deficiency. I would just keep doing what your doing for a weeks or so and monitor. If it does not spread or get worse then upping your nutes may have done he trick.

agree .. and now looking at them pics agin I see small flowers .. Im sure they could use a littel Epsom salt (magnesium sulfat) but be carefull might turn your soil a bit acid .. so a bit of Lime/mearl would also be a good thing ..

if your plant just startet flowering ?
I would see if my wellness shop had Epsom salt and also see if I could find Dolomit lime ..

and give em a littel top dressing (1 tsp of Lime) on top of your soil and water with clean water with ½ ts. of Epsom..
specialy if you grow in organic soil but have`t addet anything to it to begin with ..

(I just mix my soil for my next run) Organic soil/wormcasting/perlit/coco fibers/peetmoss/Lime/Epsom salt/blood mean/bone Meal/guano/Kelp/Humid acids/ aso.)
 

dannyboy602

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low ph
or root bound badly
or potassium deficiency
or drowned repeatedly/water stressed
possibly the onset of powdery mildew
eliminate the ones that you know it can't be
test for the others in order of simplicity to test
stop posting in newbie section...you don't know wtf you're talking about.

do you feed them anything ?
realy need some more info .. what kind of pots/soil aso.
could be N. defesensy but could also be lots of other things ..
now you're onto something.

agree .. and now looking at them pics agin I see small flowers .. Im sure they could use a littel Epsom salt (magnesium sulfat) but be carefull might turn your soil a bit acid .. so a bit of Lime/mearl would also be a good thing .. if your plant just startet flowering ?
I would see if my wellness shop had Epsom salt and also see if I could find Dolomit lime .. and give em a littel top dressing (1 tsp of Lime) on top of your soil and water with clean water with ½ ts. of Epsom..
specialy if you grow in organic soil but have`t addet anything to it to begin with .. (I just mix my soil for my next run) Organic soil/wormcasting/perlit/coco fibers/peetmoss/Lime/Epsom salt/blood mean/bone Meal/guano/Kelp/Humid acids/ aso.)
Dolo Lime has magnesium in it. Epsom salts not necessary. Lime is enough. the list you made is a good one...you can top dress now but delete the blood/bone meal or you will end up with N toxicity. i promise. but you have to start with that list, not add it half way into flower. he needs a shot of N and mb a lil lime drench or a pinch of lime sprinkled on top. what he will end up with in the end is a somewhat smaller yield and a lesson learned about soil biology.


what you are seeing bro is normal translocation of N from the sugar making fan leaves to the other parts of the plants where it's needed. because your mix is slightly deficient ok? mb you have a heavy feeder. you're ph may be off but i don't think thats the problem otherwise the other leaves would be yellow also. a tsp lime sprinkled on top wouldnt hurt AND i would top dress the soil with a rich organic mix of leaf compost, cow manure or something rich in N. ORGANIC...NOT SALT BASED FERTILIZER OR YOU WILL END UP WITH CLAWED LEAVES. top dressing in mid flower is a good thing. i do it. stay away from anything like blood meal. it's too late for that. you can buy MAGIC GREEN and spray the leaves for the fastest way to get N into your plant. it's made by HG...amazon has it.
 

Slipon

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yea .. I total agree .. danny boy ..

and the list I made is also for mixing in the soil .. not top dressing .. I mix mine 2-4 weeks before I use it ..

only thing I use for top dressing is Lime/mearl to correct PH and provide Ca/Mg

and I also use Bat Guano powder (high P) 4 weeks in to flowering ..
 

dannyboy602

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i have a list i swear by...
peat/lite base
horticultural grade charcoal
composted cow manure or leaf compost...this is my N source. i stopped adding blood meal because of late N tox or Claw
Humic Acid from Leonardite (amazon)
Worm castings..another N source...immediately available...doesn't need to break down.
Azomite (it has over 70 different elements in it...also amazon)
Dolo Lime
Epsom salts
ground potassium (amazon or ebay)
rock phosphate

The best part about the organic mineral fertilizers is you can't burn plant roots if you overdo it. try that with any other fertulizer. they just don't compare. the other part that nobody ever talks about is the taste of the finished product. try one organic grow. then dry/cure correctly. use simon's method. it is my personal favorite. pack a bowl and hit it. when you exhale the flavors that you taste running over your throat and tongue are incredibley diverse. you bring the plants genetics to it's full potential. and you'll never grow any other way.
 
Thanks for nice answer dannyboy. I'm a bit confused now though and have some follow up questions this being my very first grow and all. I was a bit hasty and gave all 4 of my plants an intense watering with an increased dose of my ATA Organics nutes today.(this was after reading the first answer). Will the increased nutes now help or just make things worse? Why do I have to add the stuff directly into the soil?
 

Slipon

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thanks a lot ..

so Im in the ballpark .. all I needed to know .. I know its a learn by doing proses ..
and I most likely need to add some later on or sumthing ..

just wanted to make sure I was`t to fare off or was missing sumthing realy importent ..

would hate to do all this research and buy all this stuff online/hydro store/walmart/other online shops/garten center etc. etc...

and then miss sumthing or add to much or sumthing .. was a littel worryd about the blood/bone meal if it is to much N. maybe ..





as I said .. my goal is to grow from start to end with next to nothing added cept clean water ..

Ooh yea and since your a soil man .. do you correct PH to 6,5 ?

I´ll take a look at your post/soil mix now ..
 

dannyboy602

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anything you add to the soil can be leached out by adding a lot of water.
you don't have to add stuff directly to the soil. you can spray MAGIC GREEN directly onto the leaves. the small flowers won't really be affected and it's organic anyway so it won't hurt. i don't think the added organic nutes will hurt at all. a benefit of going all organic.
don't get too worked up over a small problem. the worst that can happen as i said is a smaller yield. not a dead plant:)
 

Slipon

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Ooh yea and Im looking forword to teste the end product of this Organic grow Im about to do for the fist time ..
was told by many that it cant compair to non organic growths who use "normal" fertilizer/salt ..

was also told you dont have to flush or correct PH in your water and you realy cant burn the plants .. had a few isues with this growth I have going now useing GH nutriens .. 3-4 weeks to haverst .. so in 3 months time I will know the diffrent myself ..
 
The leaves on my plants are suddenly becoming very droopy... I thought for the next watering I would try not using any nutes.. Think thats a good idea? The soil im using only has a small amount of nutes and I def dont want to deprieve my plants
 

Alexander Supertramp

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i have a list i swear by...
peat/lite base
horticultural grade charcoal
composted cow manure or leaf compost...this is my N source. i stopped adding blood meal because of late N tox or Claw
Humic Acid from Leonardite (amazon)
Worm castings..another N source...immediately available...doesn't need to break down.
Azomite (it has over 70 different elements in it...also amazon)
Dolo Lime
Epsom salts
ground potassium (amazon or ebay)
rock phosphate

The best part about the organic mineral fertilizers is you can't burn plant roots if you overdo it. try that with any other fertulizer. they just don't compare. the other part that nobody ever talks about is the taste of the finished product. try one organic grow. then dry/cure correctly. use simon's method. it is my personal favorite. pack a bowl and hit it. when you exhale the flavors that you taste running over your throat and tongue are incredibley diverse. you bring the plants genetics to it's full potential. and you'll never grow any other way.
No doubt about Bloodmeal. Its pretty water soluble and I find it much easier to apply in teas if needed rather than in the mix.......
 
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