onlycucumbershere
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Must b one of those strange American shows lol but I'll take the 600 for real can u send cheque?Who is Jorge Cervantes, for $600 please....
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Lady.J
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Lol...he's a universally known grower, well respected...has great videos / books on every aspect of cultivation. The man can grow some trees!
[video=youtube_share;p83qTKokHWA]http://youtu.be/p83qTKokHWA[/video]
onlycucumbershere
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oooooooooooooooooooohhhhh
lmao!
Yeah I've seen his vids on youtube - Just didn't twig cos I never took in his name, only his shit lol so to speak. And I thought you were talking about TV haha noworries
Did you learn summin new?
onlycucumbershere
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Ahh... shame, but you gots to keep moving forward, trials and tribulations and all that jazz.Not on that particular one...probably won't be able to do outdoor anytime soon. But I did see some good tips for cloning so hopefully I'll take some good cuts from the plants coming up. Tried to take 4 before, and they all died.
I think it's a bit of an art form really, although you only need to know certain basics and you're away. But once you're okay with the basics that fit your environment you can then create your own 'style' - everyone has one. And you may find that growers have more opinions on cloning than they do for growing! So beware of that one if asking around for advice
Allow me to share what I've learned - probably minus a few forgotten details lol and you can assimilate what you wish;
seeds, need only damp and warmth, no light required or even oxygen.
Once popped they require oxygen almost straight away and more damp and warmness and only really 'need' light once they have their first 'light-receiving' leaves.
Cuts are the same as the seeds, in that they require little to no light and only really crave warmth and clean fresh and PH neutral water (My tap water works just fine, it's just hype lol)
It's best to take a cut with at least three node sections and at least two or three good healthy leaves. Anywhere from the plant works, but bottom is best, leaving those lovely tops for the flowering.
Important to remember is that the bottom leaves of your cut WILL die off, as the plant sucks out nutrients from itself, cannibalistically if you like, in order to survive while it's considering and building a brand new root system. that's why I always take a cut with more leaves than less.
Moisture evaporation is a major factor also. if the leaves have too large a surface area for surface moisture to evaporate, then they will offset the ratio between root creation and leaves dying off, so large leaves on your cut MUST be cut down to keep this ratio working, go less than half if you have to but usually just snipping the leaf ends off suffices. My cuts aren't usually big enough to have large leaves so smaller snips is fine for me.
The purpose then of the humidity dome is to keep a lower level of evaporation in order to maintain growth ratios
45 degree angle for the actual cut, but I think more can be better, depending on how sturdy the cut is. I did a few cuts a while back from a Mother that was wooden it was so thick lol In this instance, I believed it better to make my slices longer for more surface area for new roots to work with
My slices then were 2" long and they rooted real quick. But yeah, a 45 degree angle on a normal cut won't be more than a few millimetres long, so that's normal.Cloning solution - is really only there to help guide you through your mistakes... these things WILL root without extra hormones just like any other plant so no real need to go overboard. Just as long as you get a decent one to start with then you'll probably never need another. It's that same old ratio, between leaf dying and root growing. The hormones simply help to maintain this ratio and give your wee ones a better chance of survival.
Powder hormones for soil, gel for hydro.
Humidity chambers are cheap and they work. It's just as easy to make one though lol so many people are fooled by stuff they can buy. A 2 litre drinks bottle cut in half will do perfectly
or an aeropot lol *winks*Can't think of anything else for the now. But I do hope something here can be passed on - lessons learned the hard way are lessons learned hahaha
So you're deffo going the vegging route then J?
You won't regret it
Only thing is the space required... you gots to have a good sized vegging space to fit at least double what you want to flower. To have a cycle in your flower tent means you also have to have a cycle in your veg tent too - AND in your nursery... can be long winded yes, but I think a lot LESS long winded than having 10-20 pots PER cycle, in a sea of green set up.
I guess you'll have to try it innit, see what works best for the time you have spare.
(btw, I only capitalise my words to extenuate them in context, I'm not shouting)
Lady.J
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Geez, glad I finally made it through all the shoutingAhh... shame, but you gots to keep moving forward, trials and tribulations and all that jazz.
I think it's a bit of an art form really, although you only need to know certain basics and you're away. But once you're okay with the basics that fit your environment you can then create your own 'style' - everyone has one. And you may find that growers have more opinions on cloning than they do for growing! So beware of that one if asking around for advice
Allow me to share what I've learned - probably minus a few forgotten details lol and you can assimilate what you wish;
seeds, need only damp and warmth, no light required or even oxygen.
Once popped they require oxygen almost straight away and more damp and warmness and only really 'need' light once they have their first 'light-receiving' leaves.
Cuts are the same as the seeds, in that they require little to no light and only really crave warmth and clean fresh and PH neutral water (My tap water works just fine, it's just hype lol)
It's best to take a cut with at least three node sections and at least two or three good healthy leaves. Anywhere from the plant works, but bottom is best, leaving those lovely tops for the flowering.
Important to remember is that the bottom leaves of your cut WILL die off, as the plant sucks out nutrients from itself, cannibalistically if you like, in order to survive while it's considering and building a brand new root system. that's why I always take a cut with more leaves than less.
Moisture evaporation is a major factor also. if the leaves have too large a surface area for surface moisture to evaporate, then they will offset the ratio between root creation and leaves dying off, so large leaves on your cut MUST be cut down to keep this ratio working, go less than half if you have to but usually just snipping the leaf ends off suffices. My cuts aren't usually big enough to have large leaves so smaller snips is fine for me.
The purpose then of the humidity dome is to keep a lower level of evaporation in order to maintain growth ratios
45 degree angle for the actual cut, but I think more can be better, depending on how sturdy the cut is. I did a few cuts a while back from a Mother that was wooden it was so thick lol In this instance, I believed it better to make my slices longer for more surface area for new roots to work with
Cloning solution - is really only there to help guide you through your mistakes... these things WILL root without extra hormones just like any other plant so no real need to go overboard. Just as long as you get a decent one to start with then you'll probably never need another. It's that same old ratio, between leaf dying and root growing. The hormones simply help to maintain this ratio and give your wee ones a better chance of survival.
Powder hormones for soil, gel for hydro.
Humidity chambers are cheap and they work. It's just as easy to make one though lol so many people are fooled by stuff they can buy. A 2 litre drinks bottle cut in half will do perfectly
Can't think of anything else for the now. But I do hope something here can be passed on - lessons learned the hard way are lessons learned hahaha
So you're deffo going the vegging route then J?
You won't regret it
Only thing is the space required... you gots to have a good sized vegging space to fit at least double what you want to flower. To have a cycle in your flower tent means you also have to have a cycle in your veg tent too - AND in your nursery... can be long winded yes, but I think a lot LESS long winded than having 10-20 pots PER cycle, in a sea of green set up.
I guess you'll have to try it innit, see what works best for the time you have spare.
(btw, I only capitalise my words to extenuate them in context, I'm not shouting)
I appreciate you taking the time to break that down...I had no idea about the leaf to root ratio. I always wondered why I would see the tips of clones cut, but never found where it was properly explained. I bet just that bit of information would greatly improve my chances. How do you feel about plastic bags as humidity domes? In comparison, would the 2 liter bottle be better? I want to have some 12/12's sprinkled in my grow...but am going to veg out some plants in the bins for a few weeks too and transfer them into the tent when they get too big. Guess I want to do a little of both
. Definitely want to give all that vertical space a go....
onlycucumbershere
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YES!! Bigger height means bigger pots, means bigger roots means bigger trees means bigggg assss buddddd and I aint even playin!Geez, glad I finally made it through all the shouting
I appreciate you taking the time to break that down...I had no idea about the leaf to root ratio. I always wondered why I would see the tips of clones cut, but never found where it was properly explained. I bet just that bit of information would greatly improve my chances. How do you feel about plastic bags as humidity domes? In comparison, would the 2 liter bottle be better? I want to have some 12/12's sprinkled in my grow...but am going to veg out some plants in the bins for a few weeks too and transfer them into the tent when they get too big. Guess I want to do a little of both
My grow buddy is still trying to get me to get bigger pots and I'm still refusing out of stubbornness to change lol but I did go a little bigger recently and the difference is remarkably true. He uses massive builders type buckets at least as wide as my calf is long. His buds get as THICK as a 2 ltr bottle! Now that's what's up!
hehehe
You're welcome about the info - I reckon if you don't wanna share, then you shouldn't be on such a forum. natta mean
I'm actually really glad you picked up something useful.Plastic bags... sounds a little flimsy to me. How would you make that stand up? I don't think you'd be able to easily make an air hole to open and close for when the leaves appear... you'd have to elaborate that one a lil
The bottle idea I actually got from youtube, I'm sure you'll find similar ones from a search. I've personally never tried it, but I can see that it will work and no doubt a fool proof way for someone who's not tried it before.
That will give you good chances. But if you want great chances, you'll need to get a hydro propogator either like my own, or a water based one. The x stream is good, but much bigger. and basically spins a jet of water around inside the tank, against the netty baskets. Not particularly easy to house though as they're fairly large. That's why the aero is great because it's so small at 20cm wide
One can easily make one of these too...
I just love making things lol But I tend to buy one first to see how it works, then go buy the bits separately for my own design.
Which ever you go for though, most important thing to NOT forget, warmth. They need it bad.
before I got the aero (it's internal business heats the water gently), I used heated wire under the base of my box to heat it during the colder times. Didn't cost much and easy to find from pet stores/ebay - look for terrarium heaters
unless you live in a warm climate, then probably not necessary.Doing both! lol I know how ya feel - I want to do it all and know it all, all at once! It hardly seems fair that we gots to learn it all first
onlycucumbershere
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Oh yeah, it took me ages to work out that ratio too LoL but after watching all the vids, reading the grow bibles, it was more a case of putting 2 and 2 together and getting somewhere close to 4, even if a few decimal places out lol
Makes sense though don't it. If the wee one loses too much moisture, it'll no longer be strong enough to withstand growing new bits.
another analogy maybe; Just like the seed has enough stored energy to produce enough material up-until it's first leaves, the clone uses it's own stored internal energy to produce new roots which it must do before it can continue foliating. (pmsl I just made that word up)
Makes sense though don't it. If the wee one loses too much moisture, it'll no longer be strong enough to withstand growing new bits.
another analogy maybe; Just like the seed has enough stored energy to produce enough material up-until it's first leaves, the clone uses it's own stored internal energy to produce new roots which it must do before it can continue foliating. (pmsl I just made that word up)
onlycucumbershere
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Oh yeah LoL
Another note on clones - See I probably forgot loads!
How to tell when they've taken when in soil...
The leaves turn really noticeably leathery - you can't miss it! Especially so in photographs taken.
Almost quite simple really after what I just typed, having lacked moisture for so long it's no wonder it's such on obvious change lol it's a revitalisation of moisture distribution through the plant's internals making it return to life- I love this bit so much, the over powering feeling of being 'god-like' in being able to create new life with your own bare hands...
That's the only way that I learned to tell with any real confidence anyway - hope that helps too!
Another note on clones - See I probably forgot loads!
How to tell when they've taken when in soil...
The leaves turn really noticeably leathery - you can't miss it! Especially so in photographs taken.
Almost quite simple really after what I just typed, having lacked moisture for so long it's no wonder it's such on obvious change lol it's a revitalisation of moisture distribution through the plant's internals making it return to life- I love this bit so much, the over powering feeling of being 'god-like' in being able to create new life with your own bare hands...
That's the only way that I learned to tell with any real confidence anyway - hope that helps too!
Lady.J
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That's what's up lolYES!! Bigger height means bigger pots, means bigger roots means bigger trees means bigggg assss buddddd and I aint even playin!
My grow buddy is still trying to get me to get bigger pots and I'm still refusing out of stubbornness to change lol but I did go a little bigger recently and the difference is remarkably true. He uses massive builders type buckets at least as wide as my calf is long. His buds get as THICK as a 2 ltr bottle! Now that's what's up!
hehehe
You're welcome about the info - I reckon if you don't wanna share, then you shouldn't be on such a forum. natta mean
Plastic bags... sounds a little flimsy to me. How would you make that stand up? I don't think you'd be able to easily make an air hole to open and close for when the leaves appear... you'd have to elaborate that one a lil
The bottle idea I actually got from youtube, I'm sure you'll find similar ones from a search. I've personally never tried it, but I can see that it will work and no doubt a fool proof way for someone who's not tried it before.
That will give you good chances. But if you want great chances, you'll need to get a hydro propogator either like my own, or a water based one. The x stream is good, but much bigger. and basically spins a jet of water around inside the tank, against the netty baskets. Not particularly easy to house though as they're fairly large. That's why the aero is great because it's so small at 20cm wide
One can easily make one of these too...
I just love making things lol But I tend to buy one first to see how it works, then go buy the bits separately for my own design.
Which ever you go for though, most important thing to NOT forget, warmth. They need it bad.
before I got the aero (it's internal business heats the water gently), I used heated wire under the base of my box to heat it during the colder times. Didn't cost much and easy to find from pet stores/ebay - look for terrarium heaters
Doing both! lol I know how ya feel - I want to do it all and know it all, all at once! It hardly seems fair that we gots to learn it all first
love itMy man and I recently had a discussion, and he doesn't want me to have too many plants, so might have to go bigger with less plants to keep the peace. I understand where he's coming from, and it gives me structure in my mad race to try everything all at once lol.
As for the plastic bags, I meant ziploc bags. They're thick enough to stand up on their own when placed upside down on top of a cutting...just wasn't sure how effective they were. Have seen a few people using them but haven't tried them personally. I'll probably look up the bottle idea as well... don't usually have 2 liter bottles around though because I don't drink cola.
I have actually made a mini bubble cloner. I had tried to give it a go but it wasn't a fair one because I used cuts that had been kept in a cup of water for over a week and hadn't seen any signs of roots. They'd died after about a week in the cloner...wonder how different things would have been if I had clipped the leaves. There's a pic below from when I was going to experiment with hydro...but when the clones died I discovered perpetual 12/12 from seed...and changed my mind again lol.
Heat is not an issue where I'm at...this area is classified as wetlands and is sub-tropical.
I have a huge wooded area near where I live and have been toying with the idea of using soil from outside. Of course I would research how to properly handle it and all that...but it's massively appealing to not have to pay for soil, especially if I'm going to be using huge pots. Main concern would be bugs...and because of where I live, seems like there is a lot of sand in the soil.
onlycucumbershere
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That is a very sexy looking nursery! lol looks awesome mate!That's what's up lol
My man and I recently had a discussion, and he doesn't want me to have too many plants, so might have to go bigger with less plants to keep the peace. I understand where he's coming from, and it gives me structure in my mad race to try everything all at once lol.
As for the plastic bags, I meant ziploc bags. They're thick enough to stand up on their own when placed upside down on top of a cutting...just wasn't sure how effective they were. Have seen a few people using them but haven't tried them personally. I'll probably look up the bottle idea as well... don't usually have 2 liter bottles around though because I don't drink cola.
I have actually made a mini bubble cloner. I had tried to give it a go but it wasn't a fair one because I used cuts that had been kept in a cup of water for over a week and hadn't seen any signs of roots. They'd died after about a week in the cloner...wonder how different things would have been if I had clipped the leaves. There's a pic below from when I was going to experiment with hydro...but when the clones died I discovered perpetual 12/12 from seed...and changed my mind again lol.
Heat is not an issue where I'm at...this area is classified as wetlands and is sub-tropical.
I have a huge wooded area near where I live and have been toying with the idea of using soil from outside. Of course I would research how to properly handle it and all that...but it's massively appealing to not have to pay for soil, especially if I'm going to be using huge pots. Main concern would be bugs...and because of where I live, seems like there is a lot of sand in the soil.
Bubble cloner; shouldn't really work so well without having the water pumped over the top. If you try that it should work better. If the water isn't being pushed through your netty pots it won't reach your wee ones (that's why aero rocks!). The airstone in your bubbler solely oxygenates the water, but if that water isn't reaching the netty's it just won't work
If you can't work out a way to push the water through the netty's then maybe an aero mister will work for you... I've seen them on ebay (hong kong) for 99p lol you may find them locally for a good price and would be more reliable than a hong kong postage fee.
However, there are many ways to manipulate the flow of water - the Romans managed it on a massive scale! I used an air pump and two hoses to create a vacuum which used the moving air to draw up the water, quite complicated for someone with a non physics mind, but simples for another with a scientific interest
was a fun project for me As far as I'm aware, bubbleponics really only works for plants already at the veg stage or further.
Placing cuts into a cup of water will only keep them from dying for a while imo. It will be extremely hard to get them to root like that. tbh snipping the leaves probably wouldn't have helped here.
I don't see any humidity chamber... mucho importante! remember that ratio! losing moisture from the leaves will occur much much faster without the chamber and will just cause slow death for the wee one as the roots won't have time enough to grow out
Zip bag - dunno mate... can't say I even know what one looks like lol. All I can say there, is give it a go and see
Soil from outside is great!
Just as long as you don't mind having bugs from outside in your space - which are extremely hard to get rid of. Some ppl don't mind them and believe they ward off the mites and thrips, but I just think it encourages them... different strokes with that one eh lol
Since using outside soil (ages ago), I currently have an infestation of flies that just won't go away. can't remember what they're called but the cure to get rid of them is a tiny little bottle of stuff that costs the Earth! Seriously, like £100 - ish, for like 50ml or something crazy - and it doesn't even guarantee to work!
These flies, lay maggots at the soil sub surface. These maggots dive down under the dampest bits and consume the roots of your plant. Then of course they pop and turn into flies, leave the surface with a half assed attempt at flying only to meet the flame of my clipper lighter
Point is... I now can't get rid of these bastards and now have to just put up with them eating my roots.
But it does gimme something to do if I get bored.... burn them flies!!!
Going hydro in this respect is important for me as I just can't afford to keep buying soil and pissing around with it to make it right...
BUT also important lol
People prefer to buy soil grown MJ - it tastes better. So it's a tearing decision to make, hence why I'm gonna do both and compare the two side-by-side kinda thing.
I have another idea for you Lady J - I think you'll like it
You say you have woods right near you, right.
Create a hanging pot and take it to the top of one of them trees - you can guess the rest
A lot of ppl here use this technique for stealth grows at their local parks and what nots - There should be info on the net on this if it interests you.
Unless you have wide open spaces with no people...
Okay gotta go right now - be back later
Lady.J
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Quite a few people use DIY cloners without a top feed setup. In the setup I had going, clone stems are directly dipped into the aerated watered while the hydroton rocks held them in place. I think I will use a foam insert instead next time since I've seen many people using them successfully. Some claim 100% success rate.That is a very sexy looking nursery! lol looks awesome mate!
Bubble cloner; shouldn't really work so well without having the water pumped over the top. If you try that it should work better. If the water isn't being pushed through your netty pots it won't reach your wee ones (that's why aero rocks!). The airstone in your bubbler solely oxygenates the water, but if that water isn't reaching the netty's it just won't work
If you can't work out a way to push the water through the netty's then maybe an aero mister will work for you... I've seen them on ebay (hong kong) for 99p lol you may find them locally for a good price and would be more reliable than a hong kong postage fee.
However, there are many ways to manipulate the flow of water - the Romans managed it on a massive scale! I used an air pump and two hoses to create a vacuum which used the moving air to draw up the water, quite complicated for someone with a non physics mind, but simples for another with a scientific interest
As far as I'm aware, bubbleponics really only works for plants already at the veg stage or further.
[video=youtube_share;AgSVfxc09s0]http://youtu.be/AgSVfxc09s0[/video]
Have also seen a few videos of placing the stem in a cup of water and rooting that way. The thing is...it takes forever. Up to two weeks. My clones were fine for over a week...no yellowing, wilting, or loss of leaves. It was just taking too long for me so I made a cloner and decided to try it out instead.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/140167-cloning-cup-water.html
I had a dome, just wasn't showing in that picI don't see any humidity chamber... mucho importante! remember that ratio! losing moisture from the leaves will occur much much faster without the chamber and will just cause slow death for the wee one as the roots won't have time enough to grow out
.
I forgot, people in Europe aren't as lazy as us Americans and don't keep a bunch of leftovers so they don't have to cook laterZip bag - dunno mate... can't say I even know what one looks like lol. All I can say there, is give it a go and see
. Ziploc bags are storage bags for food. Below is a pic of someone placing clones inside, but I've seen people use them upside down on upright clones with the bottom of the bag left open.
I had a problem with flies as well...actually kind of sounds like what you're describing. They go in the soil and lay eggs, then the larvae eat at the roots. I poured a couple inches of perlite onto the top of my soil and the gnats were all forced to the top. I then blasted them with insecticidal soap...got it really cheap from a chain home improvement store. It's safe to use on edibles and organic. Can use it up 2 days before harvest. Kills them hos on contactSoil from outside is great!
Just as long as you don't mind having bugs from outside in your space - which are extremely hard to get rid of. Some ppl don't mind them and believe they ward off the mites and thrips, but I just think it encourages them... different strokes with that one eh lol
Since using outside soil (ages ago), I currently have an infestation of flies that just won't go away. can't remember what they're called but the cure to get rid of them is a tiny little bottle of stuff that costs the Earth! Seriously, like £100 - ish, for like 50ml or something crazy - and it doesn't even guarantee to work!
These flies, lay maggots at the soil sub surface. These maggots dive down under the dampest bits and consume the roots of your plant. Then of course they pop and turn into flies, leave the surface with a half assed attempt at flying only to meet the flame of my clipper lighter
Point is... I now can't get rid of these bastards and now have to just put up with them eating my roots.
But it does gimme something to do if I get bored.... burn them flies!!!
Going hydro in this respect is important for me as I just can't afford to keep buying soil and pissing around with it to make it right...
BUT also important lol
People prefer to buy soil grown MJ - it tastes better. So it's a tearing decision to make, hence why I'm gonna do both and compare the two side-by-side kinda thing.
. The good thing about the perlite is that it's dry...so no longer an ideal harbor for eggs as well. Has been working out great so far. Checked in on the plants today and no signs of gnats at all.These trees aren't so easily climbed hehe. And these woods are crawling with un-friendlies if you know what I mean. Higher risk of getting caught than usual.I have another idea for you Lady J - I think you'll like it
You say you have woods right near you, right.
Create a hanging pot and take it to the top of one of them trees - you can guess the rest
A lot of ppl here use this technique for stealth grows at their local parks and what nots - There should be info on the net on this if it interests you.
Unless you have wide open spaces with no people...
Okay gotta go right now - be back later
onlycucumbershere
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Thanks for clearing up the details.
Wow! seems like you everything under control!
btw One of my Kandy kush seeds has already popped since yesterday! Blimey!
I do like your idea of using perlite for a top surface. It was suggested to me before to use sand as a barrier (to stop the new hatched flies from climbing out and from fresh ones climbing in), that's why I bought a VERY sandy soil mixture. Flies aside, the soil work actually really well! Bonus! Only really reduced their numbers to a minimal, but they're still there lurking as I burn at least two a day.
Perlite is actually easier for me to attain than sand, so I may give that a try. Thanks!
Wow! seems like you everything under control!
btw One of my Kandy kush seeds has already popped since yesterday! Blimey!
I do like your idea of using perlite for a top surface. It was suggested to me before to use sand as a barrier (to stop the new hatched flies from climbing out and from fresh ones climbing in), that's why I bought a VERY sandy soil mixture. Flies aside, the soil work actually really well! Bonus! Only really reduced their numbers to a minimal, but they're still there lurking as I burn at least two a day.
Perlite is actually easier for me to attain than sand, so I may give that a try. Thanks!
Lady.J
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Yay for the kandy kushThanks for clearing up the details.
Wow! seems like you everything under control!
btw One of my Kandy kush seeds has already popped since yesterday! Blimey!
I do like your idea of using perlite for a top surface. It was suggested to me before to use sand as a barrier (to stop the new hatched flies from climbing out and from fresh ones climbing in), that's why I bought a VERY sandy soil mixture. Flies aside, the soil work actually really well! Bonus! Only really reduced their numbers to a minimal, but they're still there lurking as I burn at least two a day.
Perlite is actually easier for me to attain than sand, so I may give that a try. Thanks!
I think I might put one down today too...have been thinking on it for some time so why not. Hope the perlite helps!
troutie
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doing really well mate...... proud of you bruv ... i've been really busy doing wedding photo's recently.. me and the ball and chain have had either pitures or wedding hair for the past three weeks, but i hope to have a little down time starting from this week so i'll hit you with a cab update real soon bro! , can't wait to get back on track
... i've been really busy doing wedding photo's recently.. me and the ball and chain have had either pitures or wedding hair for the past three weeks, but i hope to have a little down time starting from this week so i'll hit you with a cab update real soon bro! , can't wait to get back on track
onlycucumbershere
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Yeah mate really looking forward to the return of the fishy forestdoing really well mate...... proud of you bruv
Things are going well at the mo I'd say, HPS is kicking ass all up and down the car park lol
onlycucumbershere
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Kandy Skunk, is almost ready to be taken out of tissue! LoL the seed popping speediest strain ever lol
However, Liberty Haze... is only just out of her shell. She is VEEERY shy!
Had a boo boo last night too.
My veg box was completely dry when I went out there - I was only a few hours late and it'd been watered heavily the day before...
Caramelo was fine, in fact it loved it! But Exo Cheese... every single node, every single leaf and every single branch... drooped and facing the floor
I watered her well with no nutes and am hoping that was all that was wrong... I'll find out in a bit when lights come on *Fingers crossed for me!*
I've spent too many months training this girl under the shittest conditions. So I won't be surprised if she dies, but I will be sad and disappointed PLUS I won't be able to get another plant to this size to fill my next cycle.
I was so hoping that the new bulb in the new space would sort this out, but it's just too hot in there! Averages at about 27-32C ye ye ye I know, but I can't go buying more fans so it just has to be so until this humid weather pisses off again.... hmpff!
However, Liberty Haze... is only just out of her shell. She is VEEERY shy!
Had a boo boo last night too.
My veg box was completely dry when I went out there - I was only a few hours late and it'd been watered heavily the day before...
Caramelo was fine, in fact it loved it! But Exo Cheese... every single node, every single leaf and every single branch... drooped and facing the floor
I watered her well with no nutes and am hoping that was all that was wrong... I'll find out in a bit when lights come on *Fingers crossed for me!*
I've spent too many months training this girl under the shittest conditions. So I won't be surprised if she dies, but I will be sad and disappointed
PLUS I won't be able to get another plant to this size to fill my next cycle.I was so hoping that the new bulb in the new space would sort this out, but it's just too hot in there! Averages at about 27-32C ye ye ye I know, but I can't go buying more fans so it just has to be so until this humid weather pisses off again.... hmpff!
sandiegojack2
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CUC>>remember fan's only move heat but do not cool! ambient temp + light = ??? You have to cool it do you have any other option's?? Little AC window size you could set in pan on floor and pump in??I did this in a tent for friend worked well aimed exhaust tword's window he had open....jack
onlycucumbershere
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Thanks Jack.
Sadly, I have no other options. My grow is outdoors-ish in my shed so my intakes are directly from the outside. I'm not gonna be able to reduce my internal temps to lower than that outside with out AC units and my shit is budget style pound shop business lol can't afford such luxuries at the mo. My only option therefore is to soldier it out.
Even more sadly, just went out there. Cheese has not recovered at all...
It doesn't look any worse - I can't say if that's good or bad - but every single branch is still looking at the floor!
I thought the up potting had taken well as it started sprouting shoots. The culprit - I've just given it a dose of Plant Magic Root Stimulant. First nutes in ages as it's always been unhealthy one way or another.
Solution;
I've given it a miniature flushing and bunged it in the flower box LoL - if that springs it back to life after a day or two I'll take a cut and then decide whether to flower it straight or put it back into veg and risk the same thing happening again - I'll have to decide that at the time. For now, here's hoping the flower box will revitalise it
Oh yeah!! I took a small cut from my Caramelo
I need to test out a cut in my new aero propogator ;D
sandiegojack2
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Wow fancy equipment FOR NOT HAVING AC!! ha ha..Hope the cheese come's around spray it in the am with cool water!!really!!I'm poor so can't go down that road with me!!ha ha...same boat has same hole's leaking ....bet the propagator is in the house huh?? watch the flower box for sign's of life and if it does grow the girl out...good luck! jack