I was going to make a post about the horrible things Obama has done....

deprave

deprave

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racerboy71 said:
things like the prison industries, it's huge money, and i don't think any president is going to do thing one about things like this..
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but he can, and he didn't, and niether will Mitt Romney, Fuck both of them, Its very simple and straightforward...
 
canndo

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chrishydro said:
We have never been lied to more by any admin in history. Even the weekly numbers are adjusted weeks later, no matter what they are. I am 51 and I promise you have never been lied to more by any admin ever. Even Nixon does not hold a candle to this guys admin.

Total waste of 4 years of all of our lives and we will be paying for it financialy for decades to come.
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And you have some eternal, unerring spigot from which you draw the truth? How on earth do you know he is lying and has lied more than any other admin? Oh, wait, let me guess, FOX told you.
 
nontheist

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canndo said:
Broken promises (especially by politicians) are not lies.
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Hmm when someone says "I will" and doesn't its called a lie, but its ok if Obama does it? He didnt even try to do 98% of the shit he said he would, all he did was rob a republican healthcare plan and fuck it up even worse than it was and slapped his name on it.
 
canndo

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nontheist said:
Hmm when someone says "I will" and doesn't its called a lie, but its ok if Obama does it? He didnt even try to do 98% of the shit he said he would, all he did was rob a republican healthcare plan and fuck it up even worse than it was and slapped his name on it.
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This is a juvinile understanding of reality. Bush sr said "read my lips, no new taxes" - he was forced to raise taxes. I do not propose that he lied, he simply failed in his promise. There is such a thing as real life and real life at times dictates that one prudently or otherwise does not carry through on one's promise. When I tell my daughter that we are going fishing and it rains that day, and we don't go fishing, I didn't lie.
 
lifegoesonbrah

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canndo said:
This is a juvinile understanding of reality. Bush sr said "read my lips, no new taxes" - he was forced to raise taxes. I do not propose that he lied, he simply failed in his promise. There is such a thing as real life and real life at times dictates that one prudently or otherwise does not carry through on one's promise. When I tell my daughter that we are going fishing and it rains that day, and we don't go fishing, I didn't lie.
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Do you break 90% of your promises to your daughter?
 
lifegoesonbrah

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canndo said:
No. Is your definition of lying then, dependent upon percentages? If I break my promise 12 percent of the time I am not a liar but at 13 percent I am?
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They are all liars, Obama is just exceptionally well at it.

He applied for the job as the peace candidate, the marijuana candidate, the constitutional lawyer, and Mr. Transparency.
He increased the war in Afghanistan, created a death panel to determine who should be assassinated with drones, increased spending on the drug war, signed the patriot act extension, signed NDAA into law, and Mr. Transparency used Executive privilege to cover up a drug scandal through the DEA.

That's like applying for a job at the DEA and then once you get it you start selling crack.

He was elected under false pretenses and many many lies...
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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Maybe Obama will run on the platform of immigration reform and then turn around and deport the most immigrants in history.

Oh wait he already did that. bongsmilie
 
canndo

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lifegoesonbrah said:
They are all liars, Obama is just exceptionally well at it.

He applied for the job as the peace candidate, the marijuana candidate, the constitutional lawyer, and Mr. Transparency.
He increased the war in Afghanistan, created a death panel to determine who should be assassinated with drones, increased spending on the drug war, signed the patriot act extension, signed NDAA into law, and Mr. Transparency used Executive privilege to cover up a drug scandal through the DEA.

That's like applying for a job at the DEA and then once you get it you start selling crack.

He was elected under false pretenses and many many lies...
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"they are all liars" is lazy thinking and defines nothing.
 
ginwilly

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the very worst thing that he's done, worse than anything any other president in my lifetime (Johnson 1st), is drone bombing American citizens without trial on foreign land against that countries wishes.

What pissed me off the most was my fellow Americans who trumpeted this move shouting "you guys said he'd be weak on terror". I asked them if they wanted President Palin to have this unilateral power......
 
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