trayvan martin

[NoDrama]

so he attacked someone because he wasn't angry?

cool explanation from the freeloading hypocrite plagiarizer.

Yep, its well known by everyone that Martin had a bit of a temper problem and had gotten into a few scuffles just prior to trying to kill Zimmerman.

 

[cannabineer]

Yep, its well known by everyone that Martin had a bit of a temper problem and had gotten into a few scuffles just prior to trying to kill Zimmerman.

I haven't heard that. Links? cn

 

[UncleBuck]

There is an eye witness who saw everything and there is not a single person to refute it.

Zimm didn't tell dispatch to meet him anywhere, zimmerman knows that dispatchers have to stay where they are and aren't allowed to leave until their shift is over

that eye witness has been caught in too many lies to be credible anymore.

again, why did zimm tell dispatchers to not have police meet him at the location he described, but rather to call him for his location? why would someone do that?

douche.

 

[UncleBuck]

I haven't heard that. Links? cn

he's telling lies because he's got nothing left and he thinks it's cool.

hypocritical freeloading plagiarizers gonna hypocritically freeload plagiarize.

 

[londonfog]

I can pull my sidearm out no matter where it is located, right, left, in the waistband, out of my sock or boot too, its not that hard.

Do you cross draw..or do you straight quick draw ???? are you left or right handed..what type of holster do you use.

Zimmerman cross draws. You can tell this because he has a left hand holster on his right side. You do understand now how the butt of the gun is positioned ( if you are what you say you are you would ). To draw this with your right hand ( as Zimmerman states he did ) that would have him drawing his gun backwards..or it just did not happen like he say it did. My next question is why is he lying. Was his weapon drawn to detain Martin and Martin then tried to fight for fear of his life ??? I do know one thing the position of his left handed holster would have place the butt of the gun forward..kinda hard to draw with that right hand, whilst clamping down on someones arm an get off a quick fire without turning that gun around..This I got to see. Hell Zimmerman telling the story now I just want to see how its done..lol ..Wow its like you can't make this shit up.

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[afrawfraw]

lol! Who the fuck told you that shit? Was it on an episode of Matlock or something? lol! I bet you think the cops have to read you your Miranda rights before they detain/arrest you too! Cops are dirty mofos and do whatever they please for the most part. They can and will continue to ask you questions after you've lawyered up, and just so we're clear, there's a difference between "not supposed to" and "can't".

No, experience. They don't have to read you your rights, but must either detain or arrest you if you lawyer up. Most respect the constitution, some don't. Those get fired after a while.

 

[afrawfraw]

No, sorry that only pertains if you are being detained or held in custody and even then it isn't against any rules for the cops to keep asking questions. It's frowned upon, but in no way is it illegal. Of course any statements gained after you ask for an attorney are going to be thrown out, so cops generally stop trying to fish for info after that so they don't ruin the case.

It's called duress. Look it up. It's kinda a law...

 

[afrawfraw]

Classic Cop move

"can you step out of the Car?"

and when you do
The cop holds the door open
When you attempt to close the door
The cop threatens to taze you and charge you with battery to a police officer

Of course since you left your door open

Now they dont need a warrant

I believe this wouldn't make a difference legally. An officer can visually search the interior of your vehicle. Anything in plain sight is fair game. Popping your trunk and glove box because you left your door open is illegal search and seizure.

 

[afrawfraw]

Typical pig move...

"May I search your vehicle?"
"No."
"Why"
"I do not consent to any searches of my person or property."
"Terrorist!"
"WHAT!?"
"Put your hands behind your back, or open your trunk."

Fucking cops. About half the cops in my neighborhood are decent. Pretty good if you ask me...LOL!

 

[NoDrama]

Do you cross draw..or do you straight quick draw ???? are you left or right handed..what type of holster do you use.

Zimmerman cross draws. You can tell this because he has a left hand holster on his right side. You do understand now how the butt of the gun is positioned ( if you are what you say you are you would ). To draw this with your right hand ( as Zimmerman states he did ) that would have him drawing his gun backwards..or it just did not happen like he say it did. My next question is why is he lying. Was his weapon drawn to detain Martin and Martin then tried to fight for fear of his life ??? I do know one thing the position of his left handed holster would have place the butt of the gun forward..kinda hard to draw with that right hand, whilst clamping down on someones arm an get off a quick fire without turning that gun around..This I got to see. Hell Zimmerman telling the story now I just want to see how its done..lol ..Wow its like you can't make this shit up.

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Left handed holsters face the butt of the firearm towards the rear, exactly like right hand draw ones do, even when cross drawing. its when you put a right hand draw on your left side that it reverses. I have many different kinds of holsters and this is easily verified.

Zimm's holster allows him to grab it with either hand in any orientation he wants depending on how he grasps it.

For shits and giggles I wear 3 holsters when at the gun range, one left, one right and one in the waistband behind my back. I can draw any of the three with left or right hand.

 

[londonfog]

Left handed holsters face the butt of the firearm towards the rear, exactly like right hand draw ones do, even when cross drawing. its when you put a right hand draw on your left side that it reverses. I have many different kinds of holsters and this is easily verified.

Zimm's holster is a left hand holster and its on his left side.

lol..dude left handed holsters do face the butt of the firearm towards the rear when you wear it on the left hand side..Now when you wear it on the right ( as George does ) it now places the butt forward so you can cross-draw...Damn I thought you had training..Who are you ????

 

[NoDrama]

lol..dude left handed holsters do face the butt of the firearm towards the rear when you wear it on the left hand side..Now when you wear it on the right ( as George does ) it now places the butt forward so you can cross-draw...Damn I thought you had training..Who are you ????

I didn't see a holster? Did you? The video shows nothing.

 

[NoDrama]

lol..dude left handed holsters do face the butt of the firearm towards the rear when you wear it on the left hand side..Now when you wear it on the right ( as George does ) it now places the butt forward so you can cross-draw...Damn I thought you had training..Who are you ????

It doesn't matter if the gun butt is facing forward, you can still pull it out the correct way with either hand, it might be awkward but I doubt he was worried about that at the time.

 

[londonfog]

I didn't see a holster? Did you? The video shows nothing.

dude you really not following this case are you...his holster and gun was already placed into evidence.. Its a left-hand holster .. George is left handed..He keeps it on the right...Which means he cross-draws..BUTT FORWARD... You really don't understand how this works do you ??? lol

 

[afrawfraw]

And a small laugh break for all...

 

[NoDrama]

dude you really not following this case are you...his holster and gun was already placed into evidence.. Its a left-hand holster .. George is left handed..He keeps it on the right...Which means he cross-draws..BUTT FORWARD... You really don't understand how this works do you ??? lol

Like I said, its not a problem to unholster a gun that is backwards with the other hand, all you do is supinate your wrist and you got it. Easy. Go to the gun store and get you aleft hand holster and just try to do it, its pretty fuckin easy with either hand.

 

[desert dude]

Can someone please answer how Zim was able to pull his gun correctly to shoot ??? Seems to be another thing that just does not add up.

In your doctored video Zim was holding his left arm across his chest with his left hand against the right side of his chest. Martin was on top of Z. Maybe Martin had Z' left arm pinned to his chest?

With the type of holster Z was wearing I could easily use my right hand to draw out a pistol in the proper position to shoot.

Hold your right hand out in front of you, palm down. Now rotate your right hand counter clock wise 90 degrees so that your right palm faces away from your body. Your right hand is now positioned properly to draw from Zimmerman's holster.

Next question.

 

[cannabineer]

And a small laugh break for all...

Someone stands her ground 2 at a time!
(And she's already one-starred.) cn

 

[londonfog]

In your doctored video Zim was holding his left arm across his chest with his left hand against the right side of his chest. Martin was on top of Z. Maybe Martin had Z' left arm pinned to his chest?

With the type of holster Z was wearing I could easily use my right hand to draw out a pistol in the proper position to shoot.

Hold your right hand out in front of you, palm down. Now rotate your right hand counter clock wise 90 degrees so that your right palm faces away from your body. Your right hand is now positioned properly to draw from Zimmerman's holster.

Next question.

Dude you letting me know how clueless you are ...

 

[londonfog]

Like I said, its not a problem to unholster a gun that is backwards with the other hand, all you do is supinate your wrist and you got it. Easy. Go to the gun store and get you aleft hand holster and just try to do it, its pretty fuckin easy with either hand.

You can simple use a right hand holster..just put it on your left and cross-draw with your right...the butt faces forward..now try to draw with your left hand..you can do it but that gun is coming out upside down..Zimmy does not describe it that way.

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