A US Teenager Who Grew Up In Denver Was Executed WITHOUT TRIAL With a DRONE

[ChesusRice]

he has that delusion and goes into these rants about everything...about how everyone else is commies..and how harsh this dog eat dog world is ...etc....goes into the same rant when anyone disagree with him they get shut out into this box in his fantasy...pretty much if you disagree with him you are some kind of a commie...your argument can even be right wing anarchist type of argument yet somehow you become a commy...it really is glenn beck style think so thats why I continually call him glen beck. (false libertarian)

Good morning Deprave
any good Wget programs for windows that will crawl a website and download everything?

 

[deprave]

and that is why you fail

there is no "right wing anarchy" you dipshit. anarchy is the diametric opposition to "right wing" authoritarianism. there is also no dimmer switch or control valve on anarchy. aanarchy is either in or out. there is not middle ground in anarchy which is NO RULES, not light rules, restricted rules, somewhat rulish, or rules that only operate sometimes.

anarchy is what you get when rules fall, and government collapses. like somalia. or the lovely al quaeda territory in yemen.

aanarchy is domination by the guy with the gun pointed at you right now, and a different guy tomorrow. attempting to conceal marxist philosophy with claims of benevolent anarcho-whateverism is fooling no-one.

Oh now I get it, You are one of those people that think the political spectrum is flat? anarchy is for the most part left but there is at least 3 right leaning anarchist philosophies which are famous, regardgless its very possible, and being right wing doesn't mean your authortarian either, your right wing, your allegedly not authortarian so your a micharchist or republican yourself. Anarchist by definition is simply less authoritarian than a libertarian (at the top of this scale) - as you can see it can be to the right or left.

I have to agree thou even further, very few people are actually right wing, they just think they are...more like right leaning...evidenced by studying political philosophy you will find there is basically no such as a right wing political philosophy with a few exceptions. (for the most part only right leaning philosophies exist)

 

[deprave]

Good morning Deprave
any good Wget programs for windows that will crawl a website and download everything?

there is lots, I don't use windows, try wget for windows and do wget -R

 

[Dr Kynes]

Something every libertarian recognizes, because they lose friends over this, because it is the battle we always fight against the statist. Yet Dr Keynes the false libertarian does not even recognize this propaganda for he is spitting it himself throughout this thread. This is such a good example I really can't get over it.

This sort of reiterates what I wrote earlier almost verbatim actually but I feel it is so important and needs to be repeated. People defend moralality, and then defend the most blatant violations of these same moral laws.

This how we are controlled.
This is how we are propagandized.
This is how freedom dies.

If someone gives you a moral rule examine the exception.
Who is not bound by that rule?
Who gets to do the exact opposite?

It will always be those in power -- that is why moral rules exist.

Any thinker who actually tries to apply universal moral rules universally is considered insane, bizarre, ridiculous -- because the purpose of universal morality is the exception, the violation. This is what it means to be libertarian, anarchist, etc...to not be a statist, to recogize this, to step back and recognize that this is the very way the mafias rule us.

Now Witness the true insanity here as people defend a child's murder by the state. This very rejection of ideas, this propping up of the state is exactly what empowers it, embodies it, without this it would not be tangible. Dr K not to pick on you here because you are not the only one, in fact you are in the majority, but your conversation here IS THE STATE.

The state exists to restrain the forces that would otherwise dismantle society. a small village where everyone is related to everyone else needs few laws. a cosmopolitan city requires more laws, a nation-state requires even more.

the rules enshrined in our constitution are a mutual agreement between the people of a state, and the several states to participate in a society. this society is predicated on everyone obeying a set of basic rules. those who violate these rules do so at their peril. persons who advocate anarchism, even those who live in a fantasyland where anarchism can be contained within rules (????) like yourself are preaching the destruction of the social structure that allows dumbasses to freely explore their woolly-headed ideas and voice their poorly considered opinions about the controlability of anarchy.

if i run off to peru, join the shining path, and take up arms against the peruvian government, do i still get my constitutional rights protected while i march through the jungle with my comrades? even when the artillery shell that targets my column strikes me as well? couldnt they tell i was a sacred and precious american, and not merely a useless expendable peruvian peasant? would i then have been "targeted" specifically, through the mud, the trees and my awesome shining path issue cuban army surplus jacket? yeah. that makes a lot of sense.

your passionate love for anarcho-whateverism is founded in the mistaken belief that you can be a little bit anarchisitc. i suppose in your world one could be a little bit racist, a little bit evil, or a little bit of a terrorist. well then maybe junior is only a little bit dead.

 

[deprave]

typical republican answer yet again, you seem new at this, I have had this debate a million times and this is the republican response.

 

[Dr Kynes]

a graph of course proves the guy who posts it to be right, Every Single Time.

 

[Dr Kynes]

typical republican answer yet again, you seem new at this, I have had this debate a million times and this is the republican response.

how interesting. funny you should mention that i am a republican.

i do support the constitutional representative republic established in the constitution of the united states of america. how absolutely stunning that you could deduce that froom my repeated assertions that the constitution is there to ensure we do not fall into anarchy, or under the thumb of a dictatorship.

you must have been top of your class in stating the obvious school.

whats really amazing is your ability to correctly guess my preference for a representative republic over a marxist dictatorship, but seem unable to perform the rudimentary task of self analysis that would invariably lead you to the conclusion that your espoused beliefs are actually just thinly veiled marxism without the violent rhetoric that puts off the run of the mill progressive crowd.

the demand for violent revolution is the main failing of Ye Olde Tyme Marxism. embracing the rhetoric of the libertine and the anarchist allows those who desire the ultimate stateless utopia of marxism to indulge their fantasy without the unfortunate distractions of proletarian violence marx demanded to achieve it.

 

[ChesusRice]

1 he was not a "kid"
2 He wanted to be a jihadi
3 his grandfather is still supporting the views of his son the kids father
4 Pick better traveling companions

I would also like to thank you on behalf of the USA for pushing that we executed this kid
Although He actually wasnt a target
it serves a beneficial purpose in scaring the shit out of the jihadis in that even their familys are targets now

Thanks Deprave et al

 

[kelly4]

typical republican answer yet again, you seem new at this, I have had this debate a million times and this is the republican response.

What's the democrats answer...a meme?

 

[Dr Kynes]

What's the democrats answer...a meme?

ohh deprave is not a "Democrat [tm]", any more than i am a "Republican [tm]"

i support a republic, he does not support democracy, not even the mob rule of "true democracy".

he espouses the surging mindless barbarian hordes of anarchy, but just a little.

not a lot, just a tiny bit of complete lawless fallout 3 type, mad max style anarchy.

only a wee bit of the complete breakdown of all society.

just a few drops of potassium cyanide in our soup.

not too much.

just enough.

no really. he's an expert.

he has very steady hands.

you can trust him.

what? why you giving me that look?

really, he knows what he is doing.

he said so.

several times.

really.

seriously, just a drop or two wont hurt you....

 

[kelly4]

ohh deprave is not a "Democrat [tm]", any more than i am a "Republican [tm]"

i support a republic, he does not support democracy, not even the mob rule of "true democracy".

he espouses the surging mindless barbarian hordes of anarchy, but just a little.

not a lot, just a tiny bit of complete lawless fallout 3 type, mad max style anarchy.

only a wee bit of the complete breakdown of all society.

just a few drops of potassium cyanide in our soup.

not too much.

just enough.

no really. he's an expert.

he has very steady hands.

you can trust him.

what? why you giving me that look?

really, he knows what he is doing.

he said so.

several times.

really.

seriously, just a drop or two wont hurt you....

Yeah, I know all about deprave and his goofy thoughts. He reminds me of Jack Handey.

 

[deprave]

ohh deprave is not a "Democrat [tm]", any more than i am a "Republican [tm]"

i support a republic, he does not support democracy, not even the mob rule of "true democracy".

he espouses the surging mindless barbarian hordes of anarchy, but just a little.

not a lot, just a tiny bit of complete lawless fallout 3 type, mad max style anarchy.

only a wee bit of the complete breakdown of all society.

just a few drops of potassium cyanide in our soup.

not too much.

just enough.

no really. he's an expert.

he has very steady hands.

you can trust him.

what? why you giving me that look?

really, he knows what he is doing.

he said so.

several times.

really.

seriously, just a drop or two wont hurt you....

pretty much....not quite a 'well said' but...yea..I am such an 'extreme' libertarian really its bordering on anarchy. I am in between market anarchist and mutalist. That is a pretty wide gap I know but I bounce back and forth between that depending on the issues presented. Market Anarchy I see it as a utopian dream because its impossible to get there, there is no means for us to transform into that without some major breakdown, no viable path. So that is why I am basically say I am left leaning libertarian because it is the most realistic and the middle of those two ideologies which is were I do stand.

I don't believe that we can all share and be like "fuzzy bunnies" and that the world is full of goody gum drops. I am sorry its just not that simplistic. The fact of the matter is that much of the evil in this world is the states and its not from people. Like flys to shit evil people are attracted to the monopoly on power which has no accountability for its actions (the state) so this is why the state can never be good and wholesome because people with ethics don't join up with the mafia. I simply don't believe that the state actually protects people, this to me is a false, they do not have some kind of special powers or something and can not protect us better than we can protect ourselves.

 

[Dr Kynes]

pretty much....not quite a 'well said' but...yea..I am such an 'extreme' libertarian really its bordering on anarchy. I am in between market anarchist and mutalist. That is a pretty wide gap I know but I bounce back and forth between that depending on the issues presented. Market Anarchy I see it as a utopian dream because its impossible to get there, there is no means for us to transform into that without some major breakdown, no viable path. So that is why I am basically a left leaning libertarian because it is the most realistic.

there is no market anarchy. there can never be such a thing. a market is a mutual agreement on the value of each person's goods.

anarchy results in the unilateral taking of all property by the guy with the biggest war band, or the fastest spear arm.

markets preclude anarchy. anarchy precludes markets. the two cannot co-exist.

this seems so obbvious that i am unable to comprehend your repeated insistence that anarchy is somehow filled with subtle shadings and gradations.

if a nation borders on an anarchistic stateless territory, then that nation must secure it's borders or also fall into anarchy. anarchy breeds raiders, rampaging hordes led by dominant strongmen, and barbarian armies with plunder on their minds.

anarchy invariably results in the rise of a strongman dictatorship, a feudal state or devolution into barbarism and a new dark age.

for more details, see All Of Recorded History.

 

[deprave]

there is no market anarchy. there can never be such a thing. a market is a mutual agreement on the value of each person's goods.

anarchy results in the unilateral taking of all property by the guy with the biggest war band, or the fastest spear arm.

markets preclude anarchy. anarchy precludes markets. the two cannot co-exist.

this seems so obbvious that i am unable to comprehend your repeated insistence that anarchy is somehow filled with subtle shadings and gradations.

if a nation borders on an anarchistic stateless territory, then that nation must secure it's borders or also fall into anarchy. anarchy breeds raiders, rampaging hordes led by dominant strongmen, and barbarian armies with plunder on their minds.

anarchy invariably results in the rise of a strongman dictatorship, a feudal state or devolution into barbarism and a new dark age.

for more details, see All Of Recorded History.

See from post your responding to:

Market Anarchy I see it as a utopian dream because its impossible to get there, there is no means for us to transform into that without some major breakdown, no viable path.

It is simply a belief in free markets and a stateless society..your right impossible to get there...but it does exist in philosophy.

And it is

DING DING DING


A Right leaning anarchist philosophy!

 

[kelly4]

So that is why I am basically say I am left leaning libertarian because it is the most realistic and the middle of those two ideologies which is were I do stand.

Last week you said you hated conservatives. The next day you said you were part conservative. Which is it?

 

[Rob Roy]

i am a libertarian, and as a libertarian i vehemently oppose all who would curtail my fredoms or attempt to destroy our constitution. alawaki junior was one of those. born in america, but dedicated and declared to be a member of of a foreign group with the destruction of the USA as their prime objective. al quaeda declared war on the us. going to join al quaeda is treason. treason is punishable by death in the courts, and on the battle feild.

get over it. he sacrificed himself when he teamed up with al quaeda. he just didnt get a chance to wear his fashionable hugo boss bomb vest.

I'd say if you are a "libertarian" you might consider refamiliarizing yourself with the tenets of the non-initiation of aggression principle.

 

[ChesusRice]

Deprave have you ever thought of starting your own political movement?

you can call it the Malcontent Party

 

[deprave]

Last week you said you hated conservatives. The next day you said you were part conservative. Which is it?

part conservative where did I say that?

Hate is a pretty strong word.....but...Strongly disagree with them on atleast half of what they say is probably the fair way to put it, but I am sympathetic and understanding. I do feel bad for them. There have been times in my life were I thought I was a conservative I will admit.

 

[kelly4]

Deprave have you ever thought of starting your own political movement?

you can call it the Malcontent Party

Motto:"Right leaning Lefties for Anarchy"

 

[Rob Roy]

You are a poopy pants

A bit off topic but is that singular or plural? Would it be more correct to call somebody a "poopy pant" ?