cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I don't buy into that cliché either. Politeness due to lack of choice has no demarcation from a state of terror. cn
with todays 12 killings. ...
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Were they ... ohnevermind. cn
ChesusRice
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I wont spoil the movie
but you can wait for it to come out in video
but you can wait for it to come out in video
srh88
Well-Known Member
kevin nealon- "guns dont kill people, people kill people thats why i dont keep people in my house"
UncleBuck
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that's funny.
but i really don't think gun control will ever fly in our country. we are a bunch of puritans. well, some people are. all the guns in the world are fine, but don't dare showcase the fact that you are sexual in any way. gun good, homo bad. bible says so.
a wise man once said something about people clinging to their guns and their bibles.
i was about to hold a secret, silent grudge against CN tonight for his defense of gun laws (which i saw coming), but then i saw that he was reasonable enough to cede that we could do it like other nations (certain conditions would apply). that's the same way i see it. sure, it could happen, but our puritanical values and the lobbyists who exploit them preclude such. it's even more of a far fetched dream than full cannabis re-legalization by leagues and bounds (<---i invented a rickyism there. i'll email it to them).
there is also another factor further precluding a complete overhaul of gun control laws above and beyond the puritans and the lobbyists, it's called the second amendment. no way in hell you'll ever overhaul the second, pipe dream. even less realistic than the gold standard in my book. and fuck, it's an amendment, the second one no less. don't fuck with it too much.
if men could get pregnant, abortion would be the second amendment. sadly it wasn't so. just an aside.
TLDR: i favor a gun control policy in line with britain, but realize that gun control laws will never ever ever ever evarrrrrrrrrr change. and i have learned to accept that.
this long rambling post has been brought to you by cannabis that was more potent than my scissors detected.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
My mirror of this sentiment is revealed by my choice of condition: that the police give up their arms: transparently, on record, without recourse. To me, that is the impossible dream. I don't expect the police to ever voluntarily give up their base of power. Police chiefs are among some of the worst gun-control boosters, and in their case it's the perfect crime, since gun control only affects You People.
Guns are power at its most naked. (This sentence is infelicitous after UB's implication that guns serve as phallic substitutes. Whether this is sound psychology or not, i am unqualified to say, because when I consider or handle guns, my goodies don't stir in their long nap.) As long as this is the case, I am strongly in favor of keeping that power as distributed as possible. So while I am oddly sympathetic to the viewpoint that guns have no place in a civilized, modern society, my counter is that that is not what we have. (The test I have proposed is to disarm the police. as long as they don't return a unanimous Yes, accept that as their cert that society is too dangerous for them to work unarmed. If so for them, uh hey, what about the rest of us?) And until we do, I view gun control as ... maybe not engineered by, but certainly supporting the goals of those who want to be the winners in a centralized, quite authoritarian state. Civilian gun ownership, its practical benefits and loyalties aside, visibly symbolizes that the citizen still has a say in the running of our system. cn
Canna Sylvan
Well-Known Member
Guns don't kill people, but my cousin does.
Sure, MOST cops, but what about the ONE guy who keeps killing people before he even commands them to "Drop it" LOL
[video=youtube;AAFRicTdf-M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAFRicTdf-M[/video]
Yep an amendment, and the gold standard is written right into the main body of the constitution.
smok3y1
Active Member
It makes no difference whether you prohibit guns or not to be quite frank. In my country its illegal to own guns but you can still get hold of them if you really wanted to not difficult at all to be honest. The only difference would be the huge price increase because of prohibition. In fact the other day I seen it in the papers some women went to prison because the police found a sub-machine gun in their house.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
my wife and i were discussing it, and thought that might be enough of a factor to keep many guns out of the wrong hands.
but it wouldn't have (likely) made much difference in this killing, nor would arming more people. this killing spree was pretty unique and unsettling.
i mean, have you seen the mugshot?
Trolling
New Member
Can't view vids at the moment but that guy is one of the bad apples, they do exist. Also if people don't have guns, we wouldn't be having this convo.
That's actually not that much when you think of the time frame.
Also, how many have been murdered in general since this thread was started?
70% of those 24 people died of a SELF INFLICTED gunshot wound. The MAJORITY of all gun deaths are Suicides.