thanks for the update Sub!.....fucking cool place!......so much potential, hope to see some nice lush veggies in those beds too!......hang in there with the small smarties.....they take some serious tweakage to get them to work right.....for one, they use a LOT more water, esp. in dry Cali air, so the medium has to be adjusted accordingly.....also, it can be helpful to be aggressive packing the soil in them from the bottom up, to get good stable form throughout....it took me awhile to work out the tweaks, and i almost gave up on them, but they are kicking some ass now.......props to TC for setting you up!....excited to see the outdoor bug get ya!......much love, nugs