For those with c99, Apollo 11/13 experience.

[40sdroppinhot]

well i thought my 2-3 JC2s were similar enough. i was totally happy with the trippy buzz i got out of those. his gear does seem to favor "grimm" genetics in a few strains.

pheno hunt or not, with bodhi's A11 genius out of circulation for a while, i'd consider it a good thing at least one other breeder is still breeding with apollos. it's sad when great non-commercial strains go the wayside.

It's DEFINITELY a bummer about bodhi's man we should have pulled the trigger while we could have! NO one else has pure genius...you'd think more people would be working with these genetics considering they were considered holy grails.

Yes very much true with most of their gear, AP13BX is different though.

It isnt a hybrid like the other gear, BX stands for backcross. I just ran 3 different TGA strains. Plushberry and Querkle were all over the map pheno wise.

Apollo was pretty much uniform as a BX should be.

If i remember correctly the vortex which it is backcrossed with is quite the mash-up of strains! However all the reports I've read including yours do indeed seem quite uniform. It would seem he actually did take his time with this strain! Its decided I'm pulling the trigger thank you so much for your input man I really hope this helps with the anxiety.

That sucks about the querkle beans though....I got 7 deep purple beans laying around i was hoping to find a keeper out of. Hopefully I get lucky! thanks again guys

 

[hazey grapes]

as far as i know, TGA's A13 is pretty A11 dominant. i agree that it would be nice to see ALL strains preserved, but i think the state of the art has advanced a little since the early '00s. i was really impressed with how fast sativa trans love buds and how much hazier it's it's buzz was than JW cindy. i'm not sure about the floowering time, but if harvested early, it leaves other "hazes" in the dust for quick budding. i hit that up with some C99 x A11, so i'm keeping at least 25% A11 in my gear. i'm liking the more IBL leaning stuff like JC2, sweet haze & haze x skunk a lot better anyways, so i'm not as gung ho for cindy and apollo as i used to be, the clear headedness of C99 was a let down for me. i love the strain, especially for activities, but psychoactivity is what getting high is all about in my world.

the genius should return eventually. if worse comes to worse, another breeder preserving it will bring it back. i've seen C99 in particular come and go from a bunch of breeders starting with grimm, spice brothers, spice of life (?), joey weed, dr greengenes, mosca, female seeds, nirvana and so on plus there's a ton of C99 crosses

just get it when it returns. and breed it so you can keep it.

 

[Jer La Mota]

C99 and Jack herer are nice highs, White berry too, was a clear high.
I enjoy low doses of Indica, but any more, and my mind/mood might fluctuate.

One breeder that has a good deal on C99 crosses is Leprechaun seeds. They sell a strain called Bourbon Street. Price is pretty nice too.

http://hempdepot.ca/seeds/Leprachaun/BourbonStreet.html

There's also a thread called Leprechaun Seeds, growing gold, that showcases their strains.

 

[40sdroppinhot]

Thanks mate. I ended up buying the a13bx. plan on getting the frost bros c99 next time i bean splurge

 

[Toolegit2quit]

i just grew out the frost brothers pineapple c99, and i let them go to about 9 weeks, and in doing so, i got rid of all the racy aspects of it and it turned into a much more couch lock effect..
i wish i had pulled them around the 7 week mark now as i was looking forward to a more sativa high from them, but i couldn't bring myself to think any strain would finish that early as past experience has told me i like even indica's more towards 10 weeks or so...

check out frost bro's c99, they got it broken down right into 3 distinct pheno's, the pineapple, and two others, and dizzle is good people to support imho...
available at cannazon.com

I have some of the Frost Brothers C99 on the way, I think I'm going to order another pack for backup.

I have a mosca C99 going right now, unfortunately the super pineapple pheno hermied on me at 4 weeks (prolly the summer heat stressed em), it was such an overpowering ripe pineapple smell I ordered two more packs of that right after bagging up that plant to throw away. It was such a delicious sweet smell...and super super sticky... I must have that in my garden!!

The one I have left is still impressive, nice frost coverage, huge colas, looks to be a good yielder.. more of a rotten fruit smell. Not a keeper.

That's my only real goal for this winter (garden wise).. nail down a stellar C99 pheno and hang on to it.

 

[Toolegit2quit]

i might not have ANY pics anymore. i think some pice of shit stole my thumb drive, but i know i've posted almost every pic i've saved here. there's a pic of my C99 grow somewhere as well as my C99bx and C99 x A11 male recently. h

honestly, i just don't get the obsession with pics everyone else has. the REAL important info is how it smokes and you can't smoke a pic. i don't even like taking pics and only do it as STFU insurance against being called a liar. i'd trade every pic on every website for an accurate smoke report any day. as someone who has no use at all for being even a little stoned, i NEED that info

I like seeing the pics, it shows the bud and plant structure. Obviously we all want super potent weed etc, but when I see a picture of plant that is clearly a low yielder, or doesn't have a growth structure I like, I'm not interested. A picture tells you a lot if it's a good pic. Most of us know what high to expect from C99 because we've read about it already, sure the smoke report is also very critical info but I wouldn't say pics have no value. my $.02

 

[OGEvilgenius]

All of my Killing Fields F3 phenos fit your description. Up, clear headed, very functional, not paranoid. Great antidepressant weed IMO.

 

[40sdroppinhot]

I have some of the Frost Brothers C99 on the way, I think I'm going to order another pack for backup.

I have a mosca C99 going right now, unfortunately the super pineapple pheno hermied on me at 4 weeks (prolly the summer heat stressed em), it was such an overpowering ripe pineapple smell I ordered two more packs of that right after bagging up that plant to throw away. It was such a delicious sweet smell...and super super sticky... I must have that in my garden!!

The one I have left is still impressive, nice frost coverage, huge colas, looks to be a good yielder.. more of a rotten fruit smell. Not a keeper.

That's my only real goal for this winter (garden wise).. nail down a stellar C99 pheno and hang on to it.

Ya I got two packs of moscas and a pack of females im waiting to pop but i still want the frost bros too aha. I really want the pineapple and the red pez/fruit punch pheno! I feel like such a seed horder....but i want the best c99 i can possibly get. I guess its pretty obvious then when you end up with the right pheno in terms of smell?

All of my Killing Fields F3 phenos fit your description. Up, clear headed, very functional, not paranoid. Great antidepressant weed IMO.

Ya I was looking to order that too as soon as herijuana is back in stock! I never heard it described as clear and functional i just know people have said its killer bud! Thanks for the heads up the second i saw that blue/purple pheno i had to have it whether it was the exact high im looking for or not lol

again, thank you guys so much! this board is so incredibly helpful

 

[canna_420]

Ya I got two packs of moscas and a pack of females im waiting to pop but i still want the frost bros too aha. I really want the pineapple and the red pez/fruit punch pheno! I feel like such a seed horder....but i want the best c99 i can possibly get. I guess its pretty obvious then when you end up with the right pheno in terms of smell?


Ya I was looking to order that too as soon as herijuana is back in stock! I never heard it described as clear and functional i just know people have said its killer bud! Thanks for the heads up the second i saw that blue/purple pheno i had to have it whether it was the exact high im looking for or not lol

again, thank you guys so much! this board is so incredibly helpful

You will defo find a pineapple in Moscas as his male is Pineapple dom.
If your looking for nearest to the grimm see if you can find some Mosca f1s. he wreckons their an f1xf1 C99 (grimm stock that would have to be)

C99 from female is pineapple dom but can get the GF

As for the F4s Im sure they will be great to go with as the genetics are great, but if you allready have F4s, why get more? or are you planning on in-outbreeding?

 

[40sdroppinhot]

I just looked at all the major suppliers and they dont have the f1s anymore :/
Is the grapefruit pheno the same as what people consider the red pez/fruit punch one? Cause id like that one too (besides the pineapple) Since the moscas is a bx does that mean theirs no chance of that?
Sorry for all the questions lol I just like to wrap my head around every bit of knowledge I can.

I was under the impression that moscas c99 was a mix of wallyducks and reefermans(?) c99s...not direct from grim. Because of this IIRC the buzz from moscas is more psychdelic and less racy/clear headed. Would i even notice the difference from a good mosca pheno and the original grim smoke? If you could clear this up thatd be great. I also bought the female seeds because i wasnt sure at the time who had the best c99 i just knew moscas and females were good. What do you mean by i have f4s though? i didnt think moscas or females were....I just seen that the frost brothers c99 f4 came out a while back and they claim to use the original grim genetics so i was gonna get a pack of those as well. But if youve tried them all and think im good with what i got ill trust your judgement Im about to pop two of the females as soon as i get off the computer yipeeeee

 

[OGEvilgenius]

well i thought my 2-3 JC2s were similar enough. i was totally happy with the trippy buzz i got out of those. his gear does seem to favor "grimm" genetics in a few strains.

pheno hunt or not, with bodhi's A11 genius out of circulation for a while, i'd consider it a good thing at least one other breeder is still breeding with apollos. it's sad when great non-commercial strains go the wayside.

I have heard there are other legit sources for A13 beans, but I shouldn't post other forums up on here.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Ya I was looking to order that too as soon as herijuana is back in stock! I never heard it described as clear and functional i just know people have said its killer bud! Thanks for the heads up the second i saw that blue/purple pheno i had to have it whether it was the exact high im looking for or not lol

again, thank you guys so much! this board is so incredibly helpful

The Heri is nice too. My KF can be pretty psychoactive as well, but only if you smoke a fair bit. It's mostly pretty clear headed and functional - something that puts a smile on your face and will sometimes cause fits of laughter but is mostly manageable day to day. It's more or less what I needed from it from a practical perspective. The longer it cures the more psychoactive it seems to get though, I will say.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I just looked at all the major suppliers and they dont have the f1s anymore :/
Is the grapefruit pheno the same as what people consider the red pez/fruit punch one? Cause id like that one too (besides the pineapple) Since the moscas is a bx does that mean theirs no chance of that?
Sorry for all the questions lol I just like to wrap my head around every bit of knowledge I can.

I was under the impression that moscas c99 was a mix of wallyducks and reefermans(?) c99s...not direct from grim. Because of this IIRC the buzz from moscas is more psychdelic and less racy/clear headed. Would i even notice the difference from a good mosca pheno and the original grim smoke? If you could clear this up thatd be great. I also bought the female seeds because i wasnt sure at the time who had the best c99 i just knew moscas and females were good. What do you mean by i have f4s though? i didnt think moscas or females were....I just seen that the frost brothers c99 f4 came out a while back and they claim to use the original grim genetics so i was gonna get a pack of those as well. But if youve tried them all and think im good with what i got ill trust your judgement Im about to pop two of the females as soon as i get off the computer yipeeeee

Mosca's is quite stable. I saw a grow where a guy popped like 200 beans on another forum. Of his almost 100 females they all looked remarkably similar (Not identical but close enough) and apparently the smells were pretty similar too. There will be outliers but you might not find what you're looking for in a pack. You will find a nice stable product though. I like C99 but I haven't smoked his so I can't say. Looks very nice though - resinous etc.

 

[hazey grapes]

i'm liking the sound of DNA's The Third Dimension. it finishes really fast, is 50% A13 and 50% jack the ripper. this way, i can bypass that strain name, but the buzz of JTR is considered tops by many, JC2 is really nice too though. if JTR is "the best 9 week haze", then crossing that with some apollo can only make it nicer and 45-50 days flowering is VERY apollo cindy compatible and even faster than the current 55 day gear.

i want to test it as a successor to the super silver haze & apollo generation of indoor sativas. the pina colada & fruit punch description sounds freakin' sick too! if i get it, i'll make sure to report back on it. jillybean just sounds too stoney, but more neutral apollo and a haze is to genius maybe as A11g is to skunk#1. that's a seriously fast flowering time for such a promising strain. someone recommended it to me. it was a good suggestion i think.

JC2 is well worth a couple extra weeks wait though. it had a fun body sensory effect that was unreal, imaginary colors wherever you touch yourself with a warm euphoric buzz with some functional stone. that's so much more than kali mist leaning joey weed C99 was. clear headed motivational euphoria is a fun buzz for activities, but doesn't heighten the senses like a good psychoactive strain can.

i'll also be checking out CH9's allegedly grapey jack 33. it's euphoric & lightly trippy buzz sounds in the apollo ballpark. i recall being a little impressed with the potency and buzz out of CH9's indica looking jack, so i'm testing that a second time too along with the 33 to see if i want to preserve it's broad leaf structure or if the spicey grape one is even better. i just don't picture grapes and spices going together as well as with lemons. oranges & pineapples etc.

 

[althor]

Its so worth the wait that you cut your down at week 5....

 

[40sdroppinhot]

The Heri is nice too. My KF can be pretty psychoactive as well, but only if you smoke a fair bit. It's mostly pretty clear headed and functional - something that puts a smile on your face and will sometimes cause fits of laughter but is mostly manageable day to day. It's more or less what I needed from it from a practical perspective. The longer it cures the more psychoactive it seems to get though, I will say.

What pheno of the kf did you end up keeping? I heard the green was more potent but daaaaamn is that blueish purple a beauty!

Mosca's is quite stable. I saw a grow where a guy popped like 200 beans on another forum. Of his almost 100 females they all looked remarkably similar (Not identical but close enough) and apparently the smells were pretty similar too. There will be outliers but you might not find what you're looking for in a pack. You will find a nice stable product though. I like C99 but I haven't smoked his so I can't say. Looks very nice though - resinous etc.

Sounds perfect to me man. Looks like the c99 apollo13bx and the KF (when i get around to ordering that) is whats on deck

Its so worth the wait that you cut your down at week 5....

he has a point

 

[Jman305]

7 days x 5 weeks = 35 days =/= 45 days

 

[40sdroppinhot]

7 days x 5 weeks = 35 days =/= 45 days

??? What are you referring too?

 

[liquidsblue]

I highly recommend TGA Apollo 13bx. Ive been growing it over a year and its all i smoke out of 10-20 strains i run. Soaring high and can be smoked all day without feeling tired. Look for the most sativa leaning pheno w/ foxtailing & super expansive smoke. it only took a 5 pk to find my keeper! I have made F2's and they are all very similar.

 

[cotchept]

I got really lucky and found a dead-on Apollo pheno of Vortex with the first seed I popped. Super frosty and smells like dank baby poo. It's at 6 weeks now and looks like it'll be ready in about another 3. I love sativas and this one is one of the frostiest i've ever grown. Trichs all over. Can't wait to sample it.