I think i have root rot

big liverski

big liverski

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thanks hellraizer, i will definitely be trying that- i also have some dutch master zone which came with everything i bought? will that help at all?
 
missnu

missnu

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If I were you and the plants were mine I really would ease off on the nutes some...simply because your roots are all spindley and sad looking...Less nutes makes for stronger roots, If you overfeed a plant it has no reason to need a large root system...it has everything it needs right there at it...I mean if that plant is a month and a half...I have a clone right now with 5x the amount of roots you have there, it's been in the cloner for 3 weeks...I got lazy and didn't move a couple of clones out...So, They got nothing but water for the first 2 weeks...they have been fed once and that was recent...I started out doing DWC and it was a cluster eff of all manner of issues...but the main one that I think plagued me the most was over feeding...it is so easy to do...but for real, try backing off the strength of your feed a bit...
 
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DrGreener

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just don;t understand why so much BS with hydro dam if you grew in soil you wouldn;t need to put up with all the BS root rot etc i seen a big grow op hydro set up after all said and done it it costed more to repair the mold and damage then they actually made in my book that is ridiculous i don;t care what anyone says you need to daily baby sit it check ph top off add nutes talk about being tied down who the hell needs a wife lol growin in soil its a cake walk go in room once a week to feed thats it no worries about topping up half the issues of ph if grown organically or you actually know how to mix soils etc
and for what better yields i beg to differ what faster growth again i beg to differ
why put your self thru all the agony of growing if its nothing but a headache
hydro Sucks period :))
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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DrGreener said:
just don;t understand why so much BS with hydro dam if you grew in soil you wouldn;t need to put up with all the BS root rot etc i seen a big grow op hydro set up after all said and done it it costed more to repair the mold and damage then they actually made in my book that is ridiculous i don;t care what anyone says you need to daily baby sit it check ph top off add nutes talk about being tied down who the hell needs a wife lol growin in soil its a cake walk go in room once a week to feed thats it no worries about topping up half the issues of ph if grown organically or you actually know how to mix soils etc
and for what better yields i beg to differ what faster growth again i beg to differ
why put your self thru all the agony of growing if its nothing but a headache
hydro Sucks period :))
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Your so rong! I grow in soil and in hydro and hydro is 100% easyer and one you get it all figured out you will smoke
soil growers. Yah there are those that cant figure it out, just like some folks cant tie there shoes. And in that case you
should do dirt, eitherway hydro issues are my thing and thats why im here so hit me up anytime :)
 
2easy

2easy

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hellraizer30 said:
Your so rong! I grow in soil and in hydro and hydro is 100% easyer and one you get it all figured out you will smoke
soil growers. Yah there are those that cant figure it out, just like some folks cant tie there shoes. And in that case you
should do dirt, eitherway hydro issues are my thing and thats why im here so hit me up anytime :)
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i just want to say i agree with this 100% once you get hydro dialled it in it is so simple. also with my big setup i can leave it alone for over a week without having to play with anything.

also h202 is not the answer hellraizer knows his shit. i have battled root rot many times with h202 and it was always just that a constant battle and struggle the best i ever managed was to hold it off. the heisenberg tea. stops it dead in its tracks and your roots will exlplode with new growth. i will never row without it again
 
gudkarma

gudkarma

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still h202 has applications.

like yesterday my preveg buckets got slime.

change out to fresh water & add h2o2 @ 3ml a gal (29%) & root prune all the nasty shit away.

today 24 hours later, im back in clean bucket w/ roots looking good ...& a fresh batch of bennie/nute tea.

you can use it to beat back root slime/rot & then tea up in a day or two.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Gud right! I take a different route not to say eithr is better but i pull plants off the table and hit it all with dawn dish soap
cycle the floods and then dump! Put plants back in and all is fixed
 
gudkarma

gudkarma

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all my dwc cloners & preveg buckets i check twice a day... minimum.
takes all of a few seconds to spot the nasty shit growing.

in my case , experimented with something i NEVER used to do... used a touch of sugar to feed the microbes.
mistake and a half on an early batch of unestablished bennies.
had slime in less than 12 hours.

i always mix a simple enzyme & microbe tea w/ a touch of nutes & nothing else ...why did i think it could get better?

h202 is a hydro guy/girls good friend ....even for just cleaning and soaking things ...as well as quick strike weapon for damage control at the root zone when slime presents itself.
 
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custom.bonsai

Member
I use GH nutes as well, and yeah the micro will dye the roots a bit, especially further along in its growth, when you are using more micro. I use 15 ml H2O2 per gallon of water, and my plants don't seem to mind, and are doing well. However, add too much and the plants don't appear to like it...like anything, too little or too much of anything isn't good. The first time I saw my roots looking a bit darker, I rinsed them off real good with distilled water, bought a new airstone and airline tubing, and put them in a clean DWC bucket with just pure water for a day, and it helped restore the roots to their original whiteness. A 24 hour soak in just (oxygenated) water and H2O2 will make them even whiter, but that could be due to H2O2's bleaching effect.

I don't see anything wrong with adding H2O2 in with non-organic nutrients personally, and H2O2 adds even more oxygen to the root zone, which helps keep algae and slime from growing. How are your reservoir temps? High rez temps create a perfect environment for slime to grow, so you may want to monitor and use something to keep the temp down. In a pinch, a candy thermometer that you can buy at any grocery store can help you check the reservoir temperature. Definitely don't mix hydrogen peroxide with anything organic. Oxygen kills bacteria, beneficial and otherwise.

That being said, I'm certain that going all organic is the best way to go, as that's how plants have developed to grow before we started messing around with their environment, but that's your call, of course. You can find plenty of info here on RIU on the pros and cons of organic vs synthetic growing to determine how you want to grow. But whether you go organic or synthetic, I'd recommend keeping an eye on rez temps, and it can't hurt to add another airstone or two to your rez to keep the solution nice and oxygenated. Keeping a grow journal can help you see how any changes you make affect your plants, and be vigilant about keeping everything as clean and sterile as possible. Good luck!
 
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DrGreener

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hellraizer30 said:
Your so rong! I grow in soil and in hydro and hydro is 100% easyer and one you get it all figured out you will smoke
soil growers. Yah there are those that cant figure it out, just like some folks cant tie there shoes. And in that case you
should do dirt, eitherway hydro issues are my thing and thats why im here so hit me up anytime :)
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All i am trying to get at with the majority of the problems you see in hydro, i am sure if you spend the money and get a set up it can run without daily ( automatic ph adjuster;s nutrient adjustment sensors etc top op's etc , in soil you you can take off for a week an not worry about anything you can't do that with hydro plants would be dead in one week unattended, right ???????? in soil set your timers exhaust fans humdiifers and water see you in 7 days going to the beach and personally just can't justify being tied up to being constantly messing around with plants, chasing defiencies etc
you mentiion growing in hydro would smoke soil grows lets look at the whole picture biggest pot i seen most use is 5 gallon pots, flood and drain 4 x 8 systems, that again is dealing with more plants, pretty much flowering at clone stage or week later which ever
i find in hydro you can;t really get huge plants medium can't support it without being tied up to ceiling etc or scrog style
you mention you consider your self a pro @ hydro can i ask what is average dry yield you get per plant ?? i am achieving 1180 dry grams per 1000 watts and thats 2 plants under it giving me 2 1/4 pounds + 45 grams left over. I am hoping this grow to reach 2 1/2 pounds + per 2 plants
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
For safety reason im not going to disclose yield amounts, and yes i can leave my grow for a week without issue and no
i dont use ph adjusters or any crap like that. There are more than a few on this forum that would back what i claim and
what my setups produce. Growing in 5gal in hydro is the same as 10gal in soil, so if your claiming you can get bigger plants
in soil i dont agree! Much more savings in dro over soil to less medium = less cost. We could go round and round on this
so il just leave it as a agree to disagree!
 
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DrGreener

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hellraizer30 said:
For safety reason im not going to disclose yield amounts, and yes i can leave my grow for a week without issue and no
i dont use ph adjusters or any crap like that. There are more than a few on this forum that would back what i claim and
what my setups produce. Growing in 5gal in hydro is the same as 10gal in soil, so if your claiming you can get bigger plants
in soil i dont agree! Much more savings in dro over soil to less medium = less cost. We could go round and round on this
so il just leave it as a agree to disagree!
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lol for safety reasons ???? i asked you what you get per plant
 
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