TGA Strains Stable?

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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What breeder produces seeds that are identical phenotypes? I've germinated a shit-ton of seeds from dozens of breeders, and I've never come across a breeder that doesn't have some phenotype variation in a pack. I have Serious Seeds Kali Mist, and Bubblegum in my garden right now (have also germinated packs of AK47 and The Chronic) and there is as much variation from seed to seed as I've seen in my TGA gear thus far, and I think Simon and the crew over at Serious Seeds are pretty well respected in the industry.

I've only germinated 2-5 packs of TGA seeds, so maybe I've just been lucky with such a small sample size, but I just don't see where all the hate is coming from. And guess what, if I had a bad experience with his beans I wouldn't buy any more from him .... but I certainly wouldn't dedicate hours of my time on some anonymous forum trashing the dude and his company!
 
Grojak

Grojak

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st0wandgrow said:
What breeder produces seeds that are identical phenotypes? I've germinated a shit-ton of seeds from dozens of breeders, and I've never come across a breeder that doesn't have some phenotype variation in a pack. I have Serious Seeds Kali Mist, and Bubblegum in my garden right now (have also germinated packs of AK47 and The Chronic) and there is as much variation from seed to seed as I've seen in my TGA gear thus far, and I think Simon and the crew over at Serious Seeds are pretty well respected in the industry.

I've only germinated 2-5 packs of TGA seeds, so maybe I've just been lucky with such a small sample size, but I just don't see where all the hate is coming from. And guess what, if I had a bad experience with his beans I wouldn't buy any more from him .... but I certainly wouldn't dedicate hours of my time on some anonymous forum trashing the dude and his company!
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Really, you found TGA style diversity in Bubble Gum? I started 5 of those along side my Deep Purple and 4/5 look Identical, they were all topped no real branching just 2-4 tips growing vertical. The 5th I'm not sure about because I might of mixed up a DP and BG in transplanting, I have one BG that looks like an indica bush, I'm thinking that might of been a DP, the DP in question turned male so I might of made a boo boo, but I'll know once the BG in question flowers (assuming its fem)
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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st0wandgrow said:
I have Serious Seeds Kali Mist, and Bubblegum in my garden right now (have also germinated packs of AK47 and The Chronic) and there is as much variation from seed to seed as I've seen in my TGA gear thus far, and I think Simon and the crew over at Serious Seeds are pretty well respected in the industry.
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That's a little surprising because I've grown kali mist, Ak47 and Chronic and so has a good friend of mine (grown from SS seed packs of 11). We're not dealing with clones here so one should expect some variation but overall, each one of his strains looked and smoked a lot like mine. You will not get that kind of stability out of f1 polyhybrids.

If you're comparing the folks at TGA to Simon at Serious Seeds, you might as well include me and my own remedial, pollen-chucking breeding efforts in that conversation which would be seriously ridiculous.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Again, I've only germinated 2-5 packs of TGA, so my sample size is small ..... but thus far I am thrilled with the results.

Keep in mind that only 1 of my five Jillybeans were female, so I can't speak on the uniformity of that strain, but I got 3 females in my 5 pack of Cheesequake, and all 3 are beautiful, almost identical expressions of the strain. Every bit as uniform as the 40+ seeds I've germinated from Serious Seeds.

I can only comment on my experiences thus far, and I am very happy with TGA. My lone Jillybean is a keeper, and I will have a tough time deciding which Cheesequake(s) to cull from my garden. Straight dank!
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Grojak said:
Really, you found TGA style diversity in Bubble Gum? I started 5 of those along side my Deep Purple and 4/5 look Identical, they were all topped no real branching just 2-4 tips growing vertical. The 5th I'm not sure about because I might of mixed up a DP and BG in transplanting, I have one BG that looks like an indica bush, I'm thinking that might of been a DP, the DP in question turned male so I might of made a boo boo, but I'll know once the BG in question flowers (assuming its fem)
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Very much so. Particularly the Bubblegum. I had 5 females, and 3 distinct phenotypes. I was really hoping for a sativa leaning pheno out of the bunch, but ended up settling on an Indica dom pheno because it was clearly the best genetics of the bunch.

My experience with Kali Mist, Chronic, and AK47 were better in that there was more uniformity among the phenotypes.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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homebrewer said:
That's a little surprising because I've grown kali mist, Ak47 and Chronic and so has a good friend of mine (grown from SS seed packs of 11). We're not dealing with clones here so one should expect some variation but overall, each one of his strains looked and smoked a lot like mine. You will not get that kind of stability out of f1 polyhybrids.

If you're comparing the folks at TGA to Simon at Serious Seeds, you might as well include me and my own remedial, pollen-chucking breeding efforts in that conversation which would be seriously ridiculous.
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How many TGA strains have you grown?
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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ImOnWelfare said:
After reading like 50 pages of this thread I have come to the conclusion that all breeders suck? Is there a breeder we haven't shit on yet? Who do you guys recommend since everyone I was considering will apparently turn to hermied shit. So frustrating trying to figure out what to grow.
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Try bodhi....
 
wheezer

wheezer

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ImOnWelfare said:
After reading like 50 pages of this thread I have come to the conclusion that all breeders suck? Is there a breeder we haven't shit on yet? Who do you guys recommend since everyone I was considering will apparently turn to hermied shit. So frustrating trying to figure out what to grow.
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I've run alot of gear and so far Connoisuer Genetics and Bodhi is the only ones that I havn't found a hermie yet. I've only grown 2 of Bodhis though, but 6 of Connoisuers. Alphakronick has been good and clean too so far. I'm not the easiest on the plants either...I move em' around alot...light dep, all kinds of abuse...
 
TheOrganic

TheOrganic

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:wall:Wow just finished this thread and learned that most all breeders can have hermies. I was already on this conclusion a year ago when I popped my querkle 5pack 1 male with 2 herms all females were diff phenos and I mean diff. The pheno I kept was bomb but threw sterile nanners at week 7-8 nt bad though. And plus online reading of breeders gear having a hermies.

On my present grow I popped 3 Mango haze from MNS and 2 were male and 1 hermed week 5 with clusters lower half of plant. My SSSDH(reg from connoisour) and Delahaze(fem and the most sour smelling plant Ive ever had) Were pollinated more so on the SSSDH.

Partially my fault cause I should have been looking closer and yanked that fucker out. But to sum it all up its mostly all bullshit what breeders say. They are salesmen and one thing salesmen do is bullshit. Tell ya the truth I have had the best plants from attitude fem freebies than any reg seeds so far.........BrickTop would like this.....Greenhouse seeds has outperformed MNS for me so far....still won't go back to greenhouse though just cause Ive been there. But still my helps my point that its all bullshit.

Still will pop the rest of the 12 MHaze hopefully I must have picked the bad seeds first:wall:

Just go to attitude and get to the breeder selection close your eyes wiggle your mouse and click. Then do the same thing when sifting through there strains.:hump: And if I see the word dank related to TGA one more time I'm gonna shit myself.
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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wheezer said:
I've run alot of gear and so far Connoisuer Genetics and Bodhi is the only ones that I havn't found a hermie yet. I've only grown 2 of Bodhis though, but 6 of Connoisuers. Alphakronick has been good and clean too so far. I'm not the easiest on the plants either...I move em' around alot...light dep, all kinds of abuse...
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same, i give my plants the tough love, if they cannot perform great under those conditions then they get replaced.
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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2 of my 3 AoS are shooting nanners. from middle to late in flower, 1 of them i call "berry cleaner" for its smell has not popped any nanners or balls, seems like a mix between JTR and bcs but more JTR dominant. very nice trichs and very solid dense buds! she is the keeper of this group, her smell is not as nice nor does look is not as resinous as the other 2, but better calyx/leaf ratio, buds are practically all calyx. 1 aos is purpling, seems to be 50/50 plant showing traits from both plants equally, throwing nanners, some very embedded in the buds the bcs dom is the frostiest and smallest of the 3 turning pink and red right now, calyxes are stacking and creating what look like foxtails because it has been pollinated (probably the reason) and slowed bud growth to a crawl, smells like cherry lifesavors and skittles candy.

I'm glad i can say i've stressed these girl alot and we have a few that wont toss nanners regardless of high stress- exactly what i need in a mom (other than great finished product)

on a side note- Neither of the 2 Voids have shown any nanners and they have been move around and supercropped/trained like the AoS. 1 smells much funkier than the other, one smells like grape jelly with a hint of petrol while the other smells like rotten fruits and grape gum.

The Third dimension seems to be the most stable besides the AoS-Berry Cleaner pheno, like being trained but could use tying up.
 
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15yearsofbreeding

Actually 15 years of Age
TheOrganic said:
:wall:Wow just finished this thread and learned that most all breeders can have hermies. I was already on this conclusion a year ago when I popped my querkle 5pack 1 male with 2 herms all females were diff phenos and I mean diff. The pheno I kept was bomb but threw sterile nanners at week 7-8 nt bad though. And plus online reading of breeders gear having a hermies.

On my present grow I popped 3 Mango haze from MNS and 2 were male and 1 hermed week 5 with clusters lower half of plant. My SSSDH(reg from connoisour) and Delahaze(fem and the most sour smelling plant Ive ever had) Were pollinated more so on the SSSDH.

Partially my fault cause I should have been looking closer and yanked that fucker out. But to sum it all up its mostly all bullshit what breeders say. They are salesmen and one thing salesmen do is bullshit. Tell ya the truth I have had the best plants from attitude fem freebies than any reg seeds so far.........BrickTop would like this.....Greenhouse seeds has outperformed MNS for me so far....still won't go back to greenhouse though just cause Ive been there. But still my helps my point that its all bullshit.

Still will pop the rest of the 12 MHaze hopefully I must have picked the bad seeds first:wall:

Just go to attitude and get to the breeder selection close your eyes wiggle your mouse and click. Then do the same thing when sifting through there strains.:hump: And if I see the word dank related to TGA one more time I'm gonna shit myself.
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see u had problems with mhz if u know anything about hazes if u would've just cut those lowers there wouldnt been no other problems. hazes are easy to fuck up if u dont know wat your doing.
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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15yearsofbreeding said:
see u had problems with mhz if u know anything about hazes if u would've just cut those lowers there wouldnt been no other problems. hazes are easy to fuck up if u dont know wat your doing.
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oh! its his fault the Mhz hermed, while it is subs fault for the herms in his gear! damn kid... talk about cognitive dissonance.
 
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