turns out they didn't build that

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Good point, or it could be that republicans believe that this downturn is bottoming out and they want to be in a position to take credit for 1. Obama's stimulus when it begins to take hold and 2. the natural recovery that would have happened no matter who was president so long as they didn't fuck it up.

I have said for 3 years
The economy will not recover until the Republicans take credit for it

The whole fight over health care reform was to try and stop it before the middle class actually likes it giving the democrats a lock on their vote
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I have said for 3 years
The economy will not recover until the Republicans take credit for it

The whole fight over health care reform was to try and stop it before the middle class actually likes it giving the democrats a lock on their vote

Then why run it out till 2014? long after Obama needs it?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Then why run it out till 2014? long after Obama needs it?

December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol
privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol
writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the
Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its
passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and
revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will
unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and
the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and
becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The
timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans
that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest.
Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely
shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn
in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton
plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993,
blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of
what it has heard about the Clinton plan.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol
privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol
writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the
Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its
passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and
revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will
unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and
the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and
becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The
timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans
that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest.
Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely
shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn
in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton
plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993,
blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of
what it has heard about the Clinton plan.

Did you ever read the Dick Morris article some years ago about it being a good thing Obama won and that the right could pin all of the coming disaster on him and then pick up the pieces afterword? I think I have it somewhere.
 

Couchland

Well-Known Member
Democrats and Republicans are a pendulum in a box. The box is owned by banks and corporations. At election time, we need to pound the box to the left from the inside, we can move it, the box gets bigger when we do move it.

Obama does have the appearance of some sort of corporatist/fascist. I believe its so he can keep playing, the economy did need to be saved or how popular would he be? Even a watered down version of decent health-care is unpopular. A good 40% of voting Americans are extremely ignnorant, another 20% are very easy to fool. In that environment money can win elections....sad. I'm a Canadian but a huge fan of "liberal" America. It is hilarious to me that the right-wings constitutional heros were the leading progressive liberals of their day.
 

Murfy

Well-Known Member
i did build it-

every motherfuckin fucking thing i own i built or paid for MYSELF! pussy fuckin haters say any fuckin thing any more.

they shoulda interviewed me. i woulda dropped betty's name for sure. obomoney. that's good.

7-12% percent of americans polled could actually do somepin besides talk shit on the internet and act like pompous douches at aldi's.
either way there is no election.
 

andar

Well-Known Member
i did build it-

every motherfuckin fucking thing i own i built or paid for MYSELF! pussy fuckin haters say any fuckin thing any more.

they shoulda interviewed me. i woulda dropped betty's name for sure. obomoney. that's good.

7-12% percent of americans polled could actually do somepin besides talk shit on the internet and act like pompous douches at aldi's.
either way there is no election.
so you have a legal profitable business that you received not one penny from the government to start up? no business tax breaks. no federal loans or grants for college? you paid for private school out of pocket? never went to public school? youre the one talking shit. and im sure you're not rich enough to enjoy romney's tax breaks. why you like romney? or do you just not like obama?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I hope that they keep the You Didn't Build That mantra going right up to election day.
whereas i hope romney keeps this "you did build that" mantra going, because the more examples he looks for, the more we realize that they pretty much all get government help beyond the infrastructure and education that obama was actually referencing.

keep building your campaign on a strawman, no chance that it will burn down :lol:
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i did build it-

every motherfuckin fucking thing i own i built or paid for MYSELF! pussy fuckin haters say any fuckin thing any more.

they shoulda interviewed me. i woulda dropped betty's name for sure. obomoney. that's good.

7-12% percent of americans polled could actually do somepin besides talk shit on the internet and act like pompous douches at aldi's.
either way there is no election.
can you just see the spittle hanging on this guy's chin as he angrily pounds the keyboard?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
murfy strikes me as someone who is uber-upset about his impotence or something. none of his fail posts make any sense.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
hahaha thats hilarious.
isn't it now?

turns out no man is an island.

except murfy. he never drove on a road that he didn't build himself. he dug his own well as a newborn, and has never gone on the internet, which was built with the assistance of the government.

oh, wait....:lol:
 
Top