What is your Utility bill looking like?

[Lucius Vorenus]

$615!

This is for a 4k grow that I use just for myself and my patients. This most recent bill is looking rediculous and I can't figure out why. Its literally doubled in the past month. Never seen a bill like this for a grow this small.

Thoughts?

4k
14btu portable ac/dehu
2 duct fans
4 oscilating


Lights all come on at 9pm.

 

[sniffer]

yeah my bill just went from 275.00 to 440.00

2k
central air
1 dehu
2 duct fans
3 oscilating

veg = 400 watts and 1 small fan

power bills suck

 

[CaptainCAVEMAN]

Mine is $275.00. I ditched the AC and run things at night.

Didn't notice this is in Arizona forum. My bill's in Colorado.

 

[HB DC]

$615!

This is for a 4k grow that I use just for myself and my patients. This most recent bill is looking rediculous and I can't figure out why. Its literally doubled in the past month. Never seen a bill like this for a grow this small.

Thoughts?

4k
14btu portable ac/dehu
2 duct fans
4 oscilating


Lights all come on at 9pm.

If you are on a standard plan with APS you are likely experiencing the Summer rates instead of the Winter rates!!

Standard plan in winter is .09 cents per KwH
Standard plan in Summer changes to usage in tiers!!

Winter (November - April billing cycles)	Cents per kWh
All kWh	$0.09417
Summer ( May - October billing cycles)	Cents per kWh
1 - 400 kWh	$0.09687
401 - 800 kWh	$0.13817
801 - 3000 kWh	$0.16167
3001 kWh and up	$0.17257

No way in hell that equipment runs your bill that high!! Unless you are running them ON 24/7 but still then you would not be that high!!

You must have a pool or jacuzzi!! Or some other power whore... Even a laptop plugged in wastes power!! Water heater wastes power(timer fixes this) Too much stuff to consider!!

Even regular bulbs waste electricity! The heat they put off makes the room hotter causing the A/C to work harder!! CFLs in the house!! Not for growing!! Every little thing makes a difference! Even taking shorter showers helps!!

Lights on after dark is the best alternative to high electricity!! Run A/C at 83 in day with lights off!! At lights on run 75 on the A/C... Seems to help!!

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

If you are on a standard plan with APS you are likely experiencing the Summer rates instead of the Winter rates!!

Standard plan in winter is .09 cents per KwH
Standard plan in Summer changes to usage in tiers!!

Winter (November - April billing cycles)	Cents per kWh
All kWh	$0.09417
Summer ( May - October billing cycles)	Cents per kWh
1 - 400 kWh	$0.09687
401 - 800 kWh	$0.13817
801 - 3000 kWh	$0.16167
3001 kWh and up	$0.17257

No way in hell that equipment runs your bill that high!! Unless you are running them ON 24/7 but still then you would not be that high!!

You must have a pool or jacuzzi!! Or some other power whore... Even a laptop plugged in wastes power!! Water heater wastes power(timer fixes this) Too much stuff to consider!!

Even regular bulbs waste electricity! The heat they put off makes the room hotter causing the A/C to work harder!! CFLs in the house!! Not for growing!! Every little thing makes a difference! Even taking shorter showers helps!!

Lights on after dark is the best alternative to high electricity!! Run A/C at 83 in day with lights off!! At lights on run 75 on the A/C... Seems to help!!

I need to get some sort of timer for the damn central air or something. id like to kick it to 81 during the day but im not there everyday. it's an office.

 

[MegaBud]

I've noticed a hike in my bill also, from about 150$ originally to 250-300$ and nothing has changed. I checked Consumer Energy's website and "summer rates are in effect", because of the amount of people running A/C they almost doubled the rate for anything above 600 kwh.

 

[stickyicky0420]

ok if your useing 4k that is 4kwh every houre are u on 12/12 i veg under shop light and flower under my 1k hps it cost me on 12/12 35$ a month for the light just add 4kwh to how long you have been useing for example 4x12= 48 kwh a day 48 x 31=1448kwh a month 1448x .09 = 133.92$ a month for the light running 12/12 not including the ac if you vegging with them light you can expect almost doubble that.
hope this helps
much love
sticky

 

[BeaverHuntr]

I'm on APS equalizer plan.. If you mofos have good credit and pay your bills on time you might be able to get on it. Basically they take your average and set it as your monthly payment. I did this shit way before I started growing. So my bill was always like 280 a month running 1k, house hold stuff, and 11k gallon pool with two pump motors, now with my addition of another 1k light ( now running 2k) it went up to about 340 dollars. http://www-s.aps.com/main/services/residential/PymtOptions/ResPymtOptions_28.html

 

[Bird Gymnastics]

That is about average man. Especially for the summers. My bill was always in the $500-600 range with 4k watts. But that is because you are constantly running that AC. If you can seal the room with some good insulation and only utilize the AC when the lights come on and maybe a few hours in the peak of the Hot day, your bills should drop $50-150 depending on your AC.

Each light should only be about $50-100 per light depending on your utility company. Summers just suck in the desert, that is why you increase productivity in the fall and winter months. We have a perfect climate during those months IMO.

 

[sniffer]

come on Winter !!! lol ,
The electric company must love people like us

 

[BeaverHuntr]

That is about average man. Especially for the summers. My bill was always in the $500-600 range with 4k watts. But that is because you are constantly running that AC. If you can seal the room with some good insulation and only utilize the AC when the lights come on and maybe a few hours in the peak of the Hot day, your bills should drop $50-150 depending on your AC.

Each light should only be about $50-100 per light depending on your utility company. Summers just suck in the desert, that is why you increase productivity in the fall and winter months. We have a perfect climate during those months IMO.

50-100 is about right. Is LV using cool hoods?? or just winged reflectors ?

 

[trouble27]

7k on 18 6 running two window ac forget how many btu want to say 14000 and 17000 plus I supply well water to 3houses meaning the pump runs of my electric an I'm at 450 ish forgot to mention everything else it takes to run that system . So sounds little pricey to me.

 

[trouble27]

Oh my bad just re read title sorry not from az from cali

 

[RedbullGivesYouWings]

230 to 450 fucking summer lol

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

wow, that's carzy

 

[1337hacker]

If you aren't running a sealed room this will be basically impossible to fix... Just make sure you are only running your inline fans when the lights are on only thing I can say... or go sealed .

With 4kw of light you should be able to handle 615 $ for a few months of the year, it gets really cheap to run in the winter

I was at 565 on my last bill, right about where I was last summer

 

[bigbosscdxx]

whats up man i dont know if you are intrested but if you own the house and you are in the USA i can get you solar panels for free you just buy the electricity at a reduced rate especially if you are in Caliifornia or Florida ( lots of sunshine in those states so lots of energy is produced) if you like you can flat out buy them if you are intrested just pm me. i only grow personal 1 400w light and 2 plants. my bill does not go over 70. i dont even grow year round maybe 1 crop annually for personal.i would just like to help you while reducing the carbon footprint we are all creating gotta love green energy. also at sniffer how is your bill so high i use a 400w and my bill is way lower 4 fans 2 oscillating and 2 inline fans and an ionizer dehumidifier combo i also use a 2000w wall ac unit my roommate uses more electricity beating his meat and playing starcraft . you need to boost you central air in the grow room or get better over all ventilation maybe a in room or window unit ac i never have a bill over $70 with my set up.if this is Arizona i can hook you up just pm me your email and i will hook you up

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

whats up man i dont know if you are intrested but if you own the house and you are in the USA i can get you solar panels for free you just buy the electricity at a reduced rate especially if you are in Caliifornia or Florida ( lots of sunshine in those states so lots of energy is produced) if you like you can flat out buy them if you are intrested just pm me. i only grow personal 1 400w light and 2 plants. my bill does not go over 70. i dont even grow year round maybe 1 crop annually for personal.i would just like to help you while reducing the carbon footprint we are all creating gotta love green energy. also at sniffer how is your bill so high i use a 400w and my bill is way lower 4 fans 2 oscillating and 2 inline fans and an ionizer dehumidifier combo i also use a 2000w wall ac unit my roommate uses more electricity beating his meat and playing starcraft . you need to boost you central air in the grow room or get better over all ventilation maybe a in room or window unit ac i never have a bill over $70 with my set up.if this is Arizona i can hook you up just pm me your email and i will hook you up

You just join the forum to sell Solar? Nice first post bro!

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

I can sell it^^

 

[BeaverHuntr]

The thing about solar panels is you may have to build another closet thats up to fire code to store a bunch of batteries if you plan to store some of the electricity if not you literally have to run your shit during the day to use the electricity from the solar panels or you could store it in batteries and use it later.