Redeye Bri
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Title says it all.
very very true. 1 hit wonders are never a bad thing but i prefer strains that arent THAT strong. It really is hard to measure what a good dose is on the super strong strains.Everyone seems to be looking for that "one hit" stuff.
In fact when I smoked the Williams Wonder (which was probably 15 years ago) it was billed as "Willie's one hit wonder". Never heard of it before, and I assumed the name was just hype. Boy was I wrong!
Anyway, having now tried a few of these super-potent strains, I'd actually say that I usually prefer less potent stuff.
The problem is just that even if you know how strong it is, it can be really hard to measure a good dose with really strong weed (ie two hits too little. . .three hits too much). If you aren't familiar with the stuff (or even sometimes if you are), its also really easy to overdose with these super strong strains, particularly with "creeper" ones that may take 15 minutes to take full effect. By the time you realize just how strong what you're smoking is, its too late. . .you're in a stupor ("couchlocked"), or your heart is racing, etc.
I've actually seen people literally pass out, and have done so myself. With sativa strains, people can get badly paranoid, have unpleasant heart-racing effect, or even experience vertigo and nausea.
So this is one reason why they typically dilute the weed with tobacco in Europe. If you're an infrequent smoker and you're smoking super-strong stuff (including hash) you pretty much HAVE to do that, otherwise you're liable to badly overdose in just a few puffs.
I agree, after smoking BHO for a few weeks and goin back to flower no strains are one hit shit nemore. maybe I should quit for few months so I can get blazed off 1 hitwhats one hit shit??? my tolerance is way to high....mabey one hit shit with some bubba budder and a essential vape
Never heard that, thanks for the info. My quick read shows "Armageddon" is sativa-dominant, so if it does contain William's Wonder genetics (and it might), its probably a hybrid, not a "rework".Hey jogro, i've heard Homegrown fantaseeds- Armageddon is a remake of the "one hit wonder" of the 90's, its one of my favorite smokes, do you know the genetics of williams wonder? as they seem to have that genetic at sensi and positronics prior to HGF buying Positronics.
Never heard that, thanks for the info. My quick read shows "Armageddon" is sativa-dominant, so if it does contain William's Wonder genetics (and it might), its probably a hybrid, not a "rework".
Anyway, as a matter of fact, I do know the genetics of Williams "One hit" Wonder. Or at least, out of personal interest, I have pulled together a good story, which, all things considered, is probably about as good as you're going to get here. Here is everything I've scraped together:
Williams Wonder is a pure indica strain (or nearly so) grown as an "heirloom" strain (or local landrace) outdoors in the Pacific Northwest. The name "Williams" is probably a reference to Williams Oregon, which is a small community in Josephine county. The strain, names as such, dates back to at least the late 1970s, and is known particularly for both is extreme potency, and its somewhat unusual floral scent. Supposedly it is still grown locally outdoors as an heirloom strain up in Oregon. Like most indicas, it works well growing indoors, makes short stout good yielding plants, and it can turn purple in cold weather.
Dru West, author of the "West Coast Masters" cannabis growing book, is from Oregon, and interestingly, he has specifically cited this strain as one of only four he grows continuously, as (and I'm paraphrasing) "the only indica anyone would ever need". There is a color picture of a WW plant on page 202 of said book.
Like, all these things, the true origin of this strain is obscure, but some have theorized that this one is a pure pre-Soviet invasion Afghani landrace that was grown in a geographically isolated part of Afghanistan (EG on a mountain) so that its genetics were kept distinct from other local landraces. Of course, I don't know the real truth, but this seems plausible to me. Interestingly, "Petrolia Headstash", one of the parents of the uber-potent Herijuana, is also supposedly a pre-Soviet indica, in this case one grown as an heirloom in Humboldt County CA.
Back on Williams Wonder, that strain supposedly forms one of the parents of the original "Lowryder", the first commercially successful ruderalis autoflower, and was recently brought back in that role with DNA Genetics "60 day Wonder" (see below).
In terms of commercial availability, its been off and on (and mostly off).
The SSSC (super sativa seeds club), which was one of the earliest commercial seed sellers, had its version of this in the 1980s, claiming (I think inaccurately) that this strain won't flower outdoors unless its started indoors first. They also said ""suitable for indoor commericial growing. Heavy yields of resinous bud. Small compact plant. 1500 - 2000 grams per sq meter. Two people could not finish a joint. Plant turned purple because of very cold fall." From experience, I believe that bit about two people not being able to finish a joint!
Reeferman seeds offered Williams Wonder seeds before it went defunct a few years back. . .and there is some controversy there. . .one story is that Reeferman obtained a large quantity of the seeds from some other breeder, sold them commercially, but didn't pay him before leaving North America for an extended period of time. Anyway, Reeferman recently returned to do business again after a several year absence, but he doesn't have any WW seeds now.
Rezdog, of Reservoir seeds, offered a version of Williams Wonder, and used it as a backbone of his breeding, also offereing half a dozen hybrids using Williams Wonder genetics as a parent or grandparent. He's also defunct (IIRC, he was busted on a big grow).
BD Bud Depot currently lists a version of William's Wonder, but I have never seen any review or report on it, and have no idea how authentic or good it is. If anyone has tried this. . .please post a report!
DNA Genetics offers its version of "60 day wonder" which is supposed to William's wonder crossed with Lowryder, and backcrossed over several generations to stabilize it into a true-breeding autoflower version. By report, its not fully stabilized (it gives varying phenos), but at least some phenos do have that crippling potency the strain is known for.
Being largely commercially unavailable, some people grow this as an "elite cut" (/"clone only") strain, and so its not really "gone". Occasionally this will show up at West Coast dispensaries for sale.
Other than the "lowryder" based strains, there are undoubtedly other currently available commercial strains with Williams wonder genetics in them, and I've seen some before, though off the top of my head, I can't give you a list.
Personally, speaking, and mostly for nostalgia reasons, I've always wanted to grow this one, so if you happen to know where I could locate a proper source, please drop me a note!