Do clones carry over sex?

jpeg666

jpeg666

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Do clones from a vegging plant carry over the sex of that plant before it has been determined?

So say I have a vegging plant I take 5 clones from it, start flowering it find out it's a male after taking the cones. will all the clones become male or can you still influence sex because you took the clones before the sex of the plant was determined?

If not when is a plants sex determined by it's DNA? If I am asking that right. Is it determined at the time the seed is released or right after germination or later in veg?
 
JohnBaked

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The sex is determined when that seed is made, and when you take any clones they are just that. Clones. So they have identical characteristics to the mother plant :) you could get a clone taken off a female plan to hermy but nothing to do if it is male.
 
jpeg666

jpeg666

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Okay I was just wondering because I read in a MJ book that you can influence sex when you grow the plant so what is that all about if the plants sex is determined at the time of seed drop then that info is a crock?? I have read it a lot of places even here so what is influencing all about?
 
808killahz

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jpeg666 said:
Okay I was just wondering because I read in a MJ book that you can influence sex when you grow the plant so what is that all about if the plants sex is determined at the time of seed drop then that info is a crock?? I have read it a lot of places even here so what is influencing all about?
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You can influence a plant to turn male or hermie by introducing different types of stress factors. However you cannot influence a plant to turn female.

A clone will be an exact duplicate of its mother plant. So if you clone a plant and induce flowering and it turns out to be male, then the mother plant from which the clone was taken is also male. The same goes if the clone turned out to be female. The mother plant will also be female
 
jpeg666

jpeg666

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Here is what I am talking about. I do not know if I am aloud to post this or not. All credit goes to the author.
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So either this book is total bull stink or the guy that just told me seeds are sexed when dropped is wrong...Who is right??
 
missnu

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yes...a clone of a male plant will be male...a clone from a female will be female...
 
400wattsallday

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808killahz said:
You can influence a plant to turn male or hermie by introducing different types of stress factors. However you cannot influence a plant to turn female.

A clone will be an exact duplicate of its mother plant. So if you clone a plant and induce flowering and it turns out to be male, then the mother plant from which the clone was taken is also male. The same goes if the clone turned out to be female. The mother plant will also be female
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sex is predeterimed in the seed buddy, also if the plant hermis it has it in its genetic code, some have a latent tendency that's triggered by stress, but its it the dna of the plant. nothing u do will change the male/female ratio , srry 2 kill ur dream
 
missnu

missnu

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jpeg666 said:
So you can only influence a seed to go one way but not the other?
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Some people think that temp and water and what not can make it more likely to get females, but really each seed is what it is before it is ever planted...so if it is a female seed the plant will be female, so on and so forth...
Some people also think that a certain sexual position or foods can influence whether you have a boy or girl baby...but these guesses, are just that...guesses.
 
missnu

missnu

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jpeg666 said:
Here is what I am talking about. I do not know if I am aloud to post this or not. All credit goes to the author.
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So either this book is total bull stink or the guy that just told me seeds are sexed when dropped is wrong...Who is right??
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Well anyone can write a book about anything...There are lots of things in books that people thought to be true...If I find a recipe book on how to spontaneously generate animals, it doesn't mean that spontaneous generation actually occurs, and we know that now..
 
calicat

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jpeg666 said:
Do clones from a vegging plant carry over the sex of that plant before it has been determined?

So say I have a vegging plant I take 5 clones from it, start flowering it find out it's a male after taking the cones. will all the clones become male or can you still influence sex because you took the clones before the sex of the plant was determined?

If not when is a plants sex determined by it's DNA? If I am asking that right. Is it determined at the time the seed is released or right after germination or later in veg?[/QUOTE

Based on your example, my advice to you is to always sex your clones. You can slightly alter the outcome of sex eventhough it is already encoded into a seed. Classic example lets say I have a seed and successfully germinated it and went through its course of vegetation and I saw female preflowers. I enter it into flowering but then I neglect the flower room - temperature, humidity, air flow, watering, and nutrient feeding were all out of the optimal range for growth. Then I notice the once female plant endured so much stress that it started to show male characteristics as well as female characteristics ( hermaphroditism).
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400wattsallday

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missnu said:
Well anyone can write a book about anything...There are lots of things in books that people thought to be true...If I find a recipe book on how to spontaneously generate animals, it doesn't mean that spontaneous generation actually occurs, and we know that now..
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i read shit in my grow books that are wrong, them books were written years ago. but take what plp say on the internet with a grain of salt.
 
400wattsallday

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every thing is in the dna, thats the organisms way 2 pass genetic information. clone=exact copy because its the same dna.

do u understand. hermi traits=in the dna 2 , cool, get high
 
808killahz

808killahz

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400wattsallday said:
sex is predeterimed in the seed buddy, also if the plant hermis it has it in its genetic code, some have a latent tendency that's triggered by stress, but its it the dna of the plant. nothing u do will change the male/female ratio , srry 2 kill ur dream
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aight man first of all you aint killing any dream of mine, second you aint gotta be an ass about it, and third you pretty much are saying the same thing as me then bashing me for saying it making yourself look stupid in the process.

i totally realize that a plants sex is a predetermined thing. and i totally understand that if a plant does hermie that it was in its genetic code picked up somewhere along its line. whatever the case may be, some plants turn hermie on thier own and some only hermie when stress is introduced, or in your words "a latent tendency that's triggered by stress". I was only pointing out that you can influence a plant to hermie by stressing it, but you cannot influence a plant to turn female. that was all.

i dont appriciate your attemt in trying to make others (myself included), who are only trying to help, look stupid. ive been growing ganja for over 20 years and i dont like people trying to punk me on shit that ive come to know and love.
 
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