Did the state make you great?

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ChesusRice

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Moses Mobetta said:
I see that exact thing all the time. Sewer lines backed up and overflowing out of toilets and filling tubs with sewage. I am not a deregulate everything guy. I know rasonable regulations are necessary. Drains don't work properly without vents.
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Do you know why barber poles are red and white?
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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This was taken from the Massachusettes constitution , power to the people- yeah right - Art. IV. The people of this commonwealth have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent State, and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in Congress assembled.
Art. V. All power residing originally in the people, and being derived from them, the several magistrates and officers of government vested with authority, whether legislative, executive, or judicial, are the substitutes and agents, and are at all times accountable to them.
 
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ChesusRice

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Moses Mobetta said:
I have heard afew reasons, why tell me?
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The origin of the red and white barber pole is associated with the service of bloodletting and was historically a representation of bloody bandages wrapped around a pole.[SUP][2][/SUP] During medieval times, barbers performed surgery on customers, as well as tooth extractions. The original pole had a brass wash basin at the top (representing the vessel in which leeches were kept) and bottom (representing the basin that received the blood). The pole itself represents the staff that the patient gripped during the procedure to encourage blood flow.

Do you want your barber to do surgery on you?
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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ChesusRice said:
The origin of the red and white barber pole is associated with the service of bloodletting and was historically a representation of bloody bandages wrapped around a pole.[SUP][2][/SUP] During medieval times, barbers performed surgery on customers, as well as tooth extractions. The original pole had a brass wash basin at the top (representing the vessel in which leeches were kept) and bottom (representing the basin that received the blood). The pole itself represents the staff that the patient gripped during the procedure to encourage blood flow.

Do you want your barber to do surgery on you?
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No but didn't the believe the world was flat also.
 
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ChesusRice

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The main reasons Barbers are licensed is
1 they aint doctors
2 before licensing anyone could be a barber
and you could get a trim a haircut and lice
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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ChesusRice said:
The main reasons Barbers are licensed is
1 they aint doctors
2 before licensing anyone could be a barber
and you could get a trim a haircut and lice
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Diseases can also be transmitted by not sterilizing the straight razors. This alarmed me as I always used to have them shave the back of my neck.
 
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ChesusRice

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Moses Mobetta said:
Diseases can also be transmitted by not sterilizing the straight razors. This alarmed me as I always used to have them shave the back of my neck.
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Well if you contract hepatitus or aids from it
At least you are comforted in knowing that he will lose his license
 
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InCognition

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ChesusRice said:
Pure Capitalism without regulation is the Embodiment of Slavery and failure

I invite you to read
"tragedy of the commons"

Central to Hardin's article is an example (first sketched in an 1833 pamphlet by William Forster Lloyd) involving medieval land tenure in Europe, of herders sharing a common parcel of land, on which they are each entitled to let their cows graze. In Hardin's example, it is in each herder's interest to put the next (and succeeding) cows he acquires onto the land, even if the quality of the common is damaged for all as a result, through overgrazing. The herder receives all of the benefits from an additional cow, while the damage to the common is shared by the entire group. If all herders make this individually rational economic decision, the common will be depleted or even destroyed, to the detriment of all. Hardin also cites modern examples, including the overfishing of the world's oceans and ranchers who graze their cattle on government lands in the American West.[SUP][1][/SUP]
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No where did I state capitalism is to exist without regulation.

Misinterpret anything else?
 
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InCognition

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ChesusRice said:
Or let's say you are a plumber and in the state all you need to be a plumber is a sign
So you go and plumb a house and you have inadequate vents for the system. Not only did you screw the job up that you alreay got paid for
but the methane gas built up and exploded the house
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This is what lawsuits are for.

This is what homeowners insurance is for.

A plumber with no insurance is cheaper than one with. Outside of regulations a homeowner may have made the decision to hire an uninsured plumber. Risk vs. reward... A plumber with no insurance... that's his call. Risk vs. reward.

Of course this is outside the intricacies of what such an explosion would cause outside of the destruction of the home. I'm making an simple point, though there are many complex scenarios that could be applies. Lawyers will figure that situation out though.

A homeowner is to make their own decisions on who services their home based on their own due diligence. Don't have due diligence? Tough shit, get a lawyer when you fuck yourself over, or get fucked over... that's what they're for.
 
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canndo

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InCognition said:
This is what lawsuits are for.

This is what homeowners insurance is for.

A plumber with no insurance is cheaper than one with. Outside of regulations a homeowner may have made the decision to hire an uninsured plumber. Risk vs. reward... A plumber with no insurance... that's his call. Risk vs. reward.

Of course this is outside the intricacies of what such an explosion would cause outside of the destruction of the home. I'm making an simple point, though there are many complex scenarios that could be applies. Lawyers will figure that situation out though.

A homeowner is to make their own decisions on who services their home based on their own due diligence. Don't have due diligence? Tough shit, get a lawyer when you fuck yourself over, or get fucked over... that's what they're for.
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Of course the people who argue this way are the ones most in favor of tort reform.
 
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InCognition

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canndo said:
Of course the people who argue this way are the ones most in favor of tort reform.
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Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. It's a pretty broad topic.

There are a lot of laws that need reform, and a lot of laws that need to be left alone. There are also alot of "things" that just plain don't need laws.
 
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