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irieie

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Looking good. Got a nice even canopy going. Your right about the internodal spacing that looks tight hopefully it will stay that way through the stretch.
 
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RedbullGivesYouWings

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15 days from the 12/12 flip, the second pic down is of the back side of the plant some light LST she filled up rather nicely I think. Internode spacing is holding up well always doers though the strain is perfect for tent growin:weed:






 
KT420

KT420

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I have read about 48 (or 24 or 36) hour thing to jump start flower before, but never tried it personally. I don't do the 48 hours darkness thing before harvest either, just harvest at lights on. From what I've read the plant secretes a hormone during the dark cycle and when enough of this hormone has built up it starts to flower, so a long dark period spikes the hormone right away, so there's less transition between veg and flower, and may cut down on some of the stretch. At least that's the theory behind it.

hiluxphantom said:
ur plants look a little yellow maybe just the light but My plants are always dark green at that stage
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I was thinking the opposite. I thought the pics on page 3 looked like N toxicity, but these look better. If you're referring to the new growth, it's often yellow/light green like that when it's growing in fast IME.
 
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RedbullGivesYouWings

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KT420 said:
I have read about 48 (or 24 or 36) hour thing to jump start flower before, but never tried it personally. I don't do the 48 hours darkness thing before harvest either, just harvest at lights on. From what I've read the plant secretes a hormone during the dark cycle and when enough of this hormone has built up it starts to flower, so a long dark period spikes the hormone right away, so there's less transition between veg and flower, and may cut down on some of the stretch. At least that's the theory behind it.



I was thinking the opposite. I thought the pics on page 3 looked like N toxicity, but these look better. If you're referring to the new growth, it's often yellow/light green like that when it's growing in fast IME.
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I don't do the 48 hours of darkness before harvest. I do play with the amount you light I give them through the whole flower cycle though sometimes... pull a plant out an hour or two or even three early every night over the light cycle during flower, see if it will bring out anything different in the pheno. You are spot on about my reasoning for the 48 dark cycle I only go 48 with plants that are a good size. I have ran into problems doing it with smaller plants. I have also ran into problems when I have watered before the flip. With that being said I do feel that it does induce the plants into flower faster and keeps the stretch down as per the reasons you stated

And as for the N toxicity you are right but it was planned for. I always tend to do the first flower feed with a full feeding of veg nutes this pumps the N up which I feel helps the plant through the rest of flower. I run nutes on two out of my three waterings to keep the salts and such from building up, also find it helps keep everything nice and stable through the grow JMO though. And also spot on about the new growth on the plant. Thanks for chimming in man rep coming your way:clap:
 
hiluxphantom

hiluxphantom

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I bought a bag and brought it back cuz how BS that shit was. itll compact so fast I dont like to add shot to my soil other than nutes and water so FF not for me
 
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RedbullGivesYouWings

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hiluxphantom said:
Fox farm sucks but i was commenting on the first picture u posted how bad that plant looked
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hiluxphantom said:
I bought a bag and brought it back cuz how BS that shit was. itll compact so fast I dont like to add shot to my soil other than nutes and water so FF not for me
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As of late I must agree with you, there quality control standards fell somewhat. I have different run going with some black widow. Its only three plants, but two were planted in a new bag of fox farm and one in a older bag I had left from a potting before. And the soil must be off because I run the same ppm ph for this black widow all the time and two of the three just went a lil crazy I tested the ph of the soil and it was all off but the plant planted with the other bag of fox farms is rockin and rollin. But then again the two that are brunt are trained one super cropped, one topped an LST. So maybe that could be the issue, but that grow is different so back to the point at hand. I'm thinkin about making a change to black gold potting soil but still shopping around.
 
1337hacker

1337hacker

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I wouldn't over think the soil thing too much... know what's in it and what your plant needs, and how to create a good environment for soil life to survive in. I've had just as good results with 4 dollar home depot soil as I have with 15 dollar a bag roots 707 or 15 dollar a bag ffof...

All those soils can benefit from extra Earth worm castings in my opinion, and can also benefit from being cut with some coco-coir and perlite (especially the cheap home depot soil), as the thing that pisses me off most about these soils is the way they hold water more than anything. Roots is probably the worst at holding the water, and most peat based soils get hydrophobic easily...

They all need to be inoculated with some sort of myco product too..

Again everything here is just an opinion, but I'd recommend trying multiple products at different price ranges, read the labels and find out what your plant is asking for at each different stage.
 
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RedbullGivesYouWings

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The weather was to good this morning not to let this lil lady soak up some fresh morning sun. Plus I thought I would snap some pics why she was in better lighting. 23 days from the 12/12 flip
Shots from each side and looking down



I counted 26 colas:-o


Nug shots, starting to ice up:weed:


 
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