the History Channel "drugs Inc."

[kelly4]

In a modern society, most do. You can work under the table, you can cash your checks at Walmart and you can pay your bills with money orders or at a payment location - so far. But most people work for a living and they get paychecks. The moment that happens, government can (and does) interfere. You can squat in your defaulted house if you wish as well. I will conceed that in this event sooner or later the bank will send someone perhaps with a weapoon to your home. the moment you draw on that person the rules change so, as some have been maintaining (especially Rob Roy), force may be applied.

Most times however, none is needed, there are far too many other ways for the government to apply pressure.

So, long story short, someone with jackboots will eventually come to your house...

 

[Mr Neutron]

But most people work for a living and they get paychecks. The moment that happens, government can (and does) interfere.

I don't want to hijack the thread but this is something that needs to be contemplated. Working as an employee is not something new nor is it uniquely American BUT why has it become so prolific? Why are the masses being herded into this employee slot or that one? Whatever happened to self-employment and entrepreneurship? It is being taxed out of existence. How many would rise up and say ENOUGH, if they had to write a check to the IRS, four times a year or if they had to pay ALL of their SS (which in many cases is more than the actual income tax)?

 

[Moses Mobetta]

I don't want to hijack the thread but this is something that needs to be contemplated. Working as an employee is not something new nor is it uniquely American BUT why has it become so prolific? Why are the masses being herded into this employee slot or that one? Whatever happened to self-employment and entrepreneurship? It is being taxed out of existence. How many would rise up and say ENOUGH, if they had to write a check to the IRS, four times a year or if they had to pay ALL of their SS (which in many cases is more than the actual income tax)?

Yeah I noticed a big change in peoples desire to become self employed over the last 3 decades. I am and wouldn't trade it for anything.

 

[ChesusRice]

Yeah I noticed a big change in peoples desire to become self employed over the last 3 decades. I am and wouldn't trade it for anything.

I definatly want to start a small shop and compete against wal mart
Now what is it I could sell cheaper than wal mart

 

[budlover13]

I definatly want to start a small shop and compete against wal mart
Now what is it I could sell cheaper than wal mart

That's where you have to have those specialty items that walmart refuses to carry

 

[ChesusRice]

That's where you have to have those specialty items that walmart refuses to carry

E cigs
I would make a killing
For about 6 months
Big tobacco is moving in on the action and lobbying for laws to prevent people from making their own e juice

 

[Moses Mobetta]

I definatly want to start a small shop and compete against wal mart
Now what is it I could sell cheaper than wal mart[/QUOTE

I don't try to be cheaper. Cheaper is not better. You want a real good roof or a real cheap roof? The quality work we do and top notch products we use is what keeps us going not cheap stuff that fails prematurely. Anyone who really wants it can do it and if you want it enough you can make it happen.

 

[budlover13]

E cigs
I would make a killing
For about 6 months
Big tobacco is moving in on the action and lobbying for laws to prevent people from making their own e juice

So they would be increasing your profit margin since prices go up on the black market right?

 

[ChesusRice]

So they would be increasing your profit margin since prices go up on the black market right?

There wont be a black market
I cannot produce nicotine cost effectivly
I cannot produce vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol either
I'm thinking about talking to my boss about making cartomizers
But i do not have a half million dollars to invest in a swiss style turning center nor the facilities to assemble the components

If big Tobacco gets these things regulated (read that as gone) then I will give this up as well

 

[cannabineer]

Can one even purchase nicotine USP? cn

 

[nontheist]

Can one even purchase nicotine USP? cn

Yes, I am a vaporer myself, I kicked a 15 year cigar habit vaping I am now down to zero nic and still vape because I enjoy it. Also it saves me about 300 dollars a month.

 

[cannabineer]

OK ... where? cn

 

[nontheist]

OK ... where? cn

Well there is hundreds of places here is one example.
http://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/wholesale-unflavored-nic-juice/3-liters-unflavored-nicotine-e-liquid-100mg/

Esmokes is a large community http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com

 

[cannabineer]

That's not nicotine USP. I tried to Google it but cannot find suppliers beyond the usual, tiresome Chinese wholesalers. cn

 

[nontheist]

OK ... where? cn

The numbers are roughly like this, if you're a pack a day cig smoker you can save about 120dollars a month.

 

[ChesusRice]

Yes, I am a vaporer myself, I kicked a 15 year cigar habit vaping I am now down to zero nic and still vape because I enjoy it. Also it saves me about 300 dollars a month.

0 nic?
im doing 18 right now and going to go for the 24. More of a lunger and throat hit

The numbers are roughly like this, if you're a pack a day cig smoker you can save about 120dollars a month.

pack of smokes 7.25 (marlboros)

7.25 x 30= 217.50

Vapor supplies
3 carto mizers per week 2.29 x = 6.87
10 ml store bought smoke juice =5.99
6.87+5.99 x 4= 51.44

217.50-51.44 = 166.04

Crap I wanted to prove you save even more money than that
Guess you already had it figured out

Well it's also healthier than smoking too

 

[ChesusRice]

That's not nicotine USP. I tried to Google it but cannot find suppliers beyond the usual, tiresome Chinese wholesalers. cn

http://www.ecigexpress.com/

most of the stuff comes from Procter and gamble