250w HPS Club And Help Guide
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ace720
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Lol I'm gonna have to try that once
Broseidon
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Thanks fellas!
It works fine for me. I've calibrated it once because it was about a point off after my first grow. Not too bad in my opinion.
It has been great for my second grow
Thank you sir. I used lst through veg and a little bit through flower, just to space the colas apart nicely.
stoneslacker
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That is too bad Kale. Do you think it was stress or genetics? That Kaya looks beastly though!
That kind of heat is like a kick in the balls
I was wondering about this, am I able to use the 250w bulb at 150w or would I need to get a 150w bulb. Would this damage the bulb or the ballast?
10acjed
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Good morning.
Pulled my front one for a little bud porn, she is the middle one as far as growth is concerned, one has much fuller bud growth and 7 tops, the kolas are denser, the other has 5 and stretched a little more and has more bud stretch making it look less full and dense. This one has 6 main kolas, and the bud growth is a mix of the two.. Figuring my soil/water/nutes are all the same so its just a variation in the strain.
Shes a little burned, probably not at full potential. But the flowers are getting nice and frosty, the smaller new growth seems dark green and shiny..
Some of the little ones down below the main kolas..
And some of my many popcorn buds, too many to count at this point. The get some light, but its partially blocked and 12 - 16" from the light.
My main focus are the top kolas for now, if they keep filling in I will have more than enough anyway.
Pulled my front one for a little bud porn, she is the middle one as far as growth is concerned, one has much fuller bud growth and 7 tops, the kolas are denser, the other has 5 and stretched a little more and has more bud stretch making it look less full and dense. This one has 6 main kolas, and the bud growth is a mix of the two.. Figuring my soil/water/nutes are all the same so its just a variation in the strain.
Shes a little burned, probably not at full potential. But the flowers are getting nice and frosty, the smaller new growth seems dark green and shiny..
Some of the little ones down below the main kolas..
And some of my many popcorn buds, too many to count at this point. The get some light, but its partially blocked and 12 - 16" from the light.
My main focus are the top kolas for now, if they keep filling in I will have more than enough anyway.
10acjed
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PS:
Quick question, I keep reading conflicting recommendations as far as Ph and soil growing. I use only bottled distilled water, same brand. Its Ph 7.0 out of the bottle.
Would it be a problem to use it as is for watering, not doing anything to alter the Ph?
Its nuetral so it should not raise the Ph of the soil correct?
Also as far as nute solution, right now its not bad I add FN Bloom/Liquid KoolBloom and its around 6.0 - 6.3. If its 6.3 I leave it be, but if its 6.0 or lower I should be using Ph Up correct?
Thanks...
Quick question, I keep reading conflicting recommendations as far as Ph and soil growing. I use only bottled distilled water, same brand. Its Ph 7.0 out of the bottle.
Would it be a problem to use it as is for watering, not doing anything to alter the Ph?
Its nuetral so it should not raise the Ph of the soil correct?
Also as far as nute solution, right now its not bad I add FN Bloom/Liquid KoolBloom and its around 6.0 - 6.3. If its 6.3 I leave it be, but if its 6.0 or lower I should be using Ph Up correct?
Thanks...
L33tGanjaMan
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Hey dood, nice looking plants, what Strain is that? Also it looks like you are enduring the same heat issues as i did last run, i can see the same 'crisping' of leaves that i had, maybe keep your light up a little higher to prevent that dood, i am also added upgraded 'outake fan', it sucks the sides of the tent in when it runs, Lol but imma try to keep humidity and heat down since it was been really high Ambient Temps.
Peace
brettsog
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6-6.3 is a good range for PH in soil grows. keep it as that. 5.8-6.5 is ideal as far as i can remember
stoneslacker
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Soil grows should be ph'ed to 6.3-7.0, closer to 6.5 is what my friend gets consistent results at. It is important to check you runoff ph and determine how your soil is affecting ph. If your runoff is lower than normal you can run ph'ed water through until ph levels stablize.
RCgrowerman
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All this soil talk reminds me of why i will never grow in it again =) ahh the simplicity of coco
stoneslacker
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I really am dissappointed in myself for not checking out my ballast more. One of the drawbacks of buying used equipment is you usually get no literature with it. If I would have researched some info I would have been able to use my 250w at 150w on my last grow and been able to veg much longer. This is going to help me alot now!
As they say, live and learn!
As they say, live and learn!
stoneslacker
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I too will praise the benifits of soiless growing!
georgyboy
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Even though I convinced myself to go back to hydro for this grow, I have to say that you can spot an organic soil plant from a chemical fed hydro plant from a mile away. There is a very notable difference between the plants. Well grown organics always have very perky leaves, and are often an almost minty shade of green. They are radiant and happy. Almost every hydro plant I see, whether grown out by a noob or a renown grower, is a much darker green. The leaves look leathery and are often twisted around oddly. They normally seem droopy, even when "Perky". The biggest difference is in the way they yellow. chemical plants' leaves turn a nasty dried up yellow and brown as they die off while the organic plants will slowly fade from green to a serene yellow, comparable to trees in the fall. My observations are mainly from pictures. I'm only doing hydro this time because I feel that you can't compare two things fairly unless you've experienced them both. My attempts at hydro in the past never went well, so I can't use those plants as a fair representation of hydro bud. This grow is hopefully going to work out to be the hydro representative. Maybe it can change my mind. Either way I will stick to organics because of the environmental impact of my chems going down the drain.
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10acjed
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Thanks. Its supposedly Bruce Banner # 3, he has 2 variations of it, both look very similar, one is denser and the smoke is light fruity tasting then real hashy, buzz is more mellow, the other is less dense, and very fruity tasting all the way through and the buzz is intense body/head high. The fruity is really the best tasting I have ever had. And the seeds I got were from a hermie bud of the fruity.Hey dood, nice looking plants, what Strain is that? Also it looks like you are enduring the same heat issues as i did last run, i can see the same 'crisping' of leaves that i had, maybe keep your light up a little higher to prevent that dood, i am also added upgraded 'outake fan', it sucks the sides of the tent in when it runs, Lol but imma try to keep humidity and heat down since it was been really high Ambient Temps.
Peace
But it looks like I have both variations from the way they look.
My room temp is 76f and I have a 10" fan with duct blowing in at the closet door and a 12" fan inside plus another 10" exhaust. Temps are high, but even at the hottest its only hitting 82 right now, dark period stays at 76. Humidity is pretty solid 50%, may range up or down a few. Most of that nasty growth you see is just nute burn, I really did a number on them, hence the Ph questions... Thanks for the tips tho, first grow so I know I have plenty of things to learn still..
Im sure I will venture into coco as well soon.
Thanks, thats pretty much what I thought, but was lurking around other threads and saw the debate going, and figured I would isolate my question here since I see ppl know what they are doing. I am sticking with FF ocean forest or happy frog for now, its Ph 6.3 - 6.8 out of the bag and easier for me than mixing my own.
I am just trying to keep it simple right now and not add anything I do not have to, I can go with 7.0 distilled for watering, and the bloom/koolbloom added in just puts it at 6.0 - 6.3, and will let my run off determine what I need to adjust. My run off with last watering was 6.7 - 6.9, and my last feeding after that was at 6.2 - 6.3 so I figure I have to be pretty close and didnt want to Ph my distilled if not needed. Just like to reassure myself at times being I am new so I ask here...
Hopefully I can retain it all going into the next grow and be patient. LOL
georgyboy
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That is the ph range for hydro. Slacker has the right ph for soil.
ace720
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well chop my plant last night and i guess all is good, i hope i get at lest 3ozs outta this damn thing. gonna let it dry for 6 to 7 days then i will see
and right after i was done with that i cleaned the tent up and put the THC BOMB in ther to veg onder the 250 for a week befor 12/12
and right after i was done with that i cleaned the tent up and put the THC BOMB in ther to veg onder the 250 for a week befor 12/12
10acjed
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Beautiful looking ace720, great job!!
If 7.0 distilled is neutral I am figuring that the soil will take care of it, but wasnt sure. I had to Ph my water to get my soil back down, but now that its good I didnt know if I should keep Ph'ng it to 6.5 or leave it alone at 7.0. As for nutes I will just decide when mixed, if its 6.2 I wont bother, but if its 5.8 I will add a little up.
I think I got it tho, more or less just test the RO and let it determine what to do. If its high/low then next water/feeding I should adjust accordingly correct?
Soil range I shoot for is 6.2 - 6.8 with 6.5 being perfect. I did know that part. What I am concerned with is using soil that is in that range out of the bag, and not Ph'n the liquid you put in whether its str8 7.0 water, or a nute solution at 6.0.
If 7.0 distilled is neutral I am figuring that the soil will take care of it, but wasnt sure. I had to Ph my water to get my soil back down, but now that its good I didnt know if I should keep Ph'ng it to 6.5 or leave it alone at 7.0. As for nutes I will just decide when mixed, if its 6.2 I wont bother, but if its 5.8 I will add a little up.
I think I got it tho, more or less just test the RO and let it determine what to do. If its high/low then next water/feeding I should adjust accordingly correct?
stoneslacker
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The only problem I had with RO or distilled water was that with little to no trace elements it was not buffering for me real well. The ph would drop drastically when I added nutes, and it was really hard to ph down the plain water without going to far. Now I just leave tap water out for a couple days and its usually around 6.7-7.7 and the nutes buffer it down to the low 6's, and the ph down does not effect the tap water as drastically. What I really need is a ppm/ec tester and really do the science involved.