Sean Tom
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how much light in there?
Lady J's Smokin' Section
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FresnoFarmer
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The best weed I have ever smoked was seeded......It does not take the potency away from the buds to produce seeds.....that is horse shit.....If anything it creates more trichomes in order to protect the seeds within the buds......Seeded bud is good.Yea but...I want quality smoke, and I will not get that with seeds in my buds. I have no weed, so this grow is supposed to supply me with that. If I had weed already, it would definitely be a great idea tho sean! Could I possibly just brush pollen on only one plant and not have to worry about the others getting seeded? Of course they might catch a little pollen from the brushed plant considering the air is circulating in there, but maybe not much? If not...I'll probably throw it in a cardboard box and put it in veg until I decide to breed. It grew amazingly well and had no issues during veg.
Lady.J
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Fresno, if you reread what I wrote, you will see that I said nothing about potency, but that I wanted a higher quality bud. It is not known whether sinsemilla is truly more potent or not, but seeds do significantly reduce bud weight, and there is a legitimate theory that cannabinod production takes a back seat when the plant focuses energy on the production of seeds. I also hate picking seeds from my bud. This is the way I like to smoke, so this is the way I will grow.
"What actually happens when a pistillate plant remains unfertilized for its entire life and how this ultimately affects the cannabinoid (class of molecules found only in Cannabis) and terpene (a class of aromatic organic compounds) levels remains a mystery. It is assumed, how ever, that seeding cuts the life of the plant short and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol the major psychoactive compound in Cannabis) does not have enough time to accumulate.
Hormonal changes associated with seeding definitely affect all metabolic processes within the plant including cannabinoid biosynthesis. The exact nature of these changes is unknown but probably involves imbalance in the enzymatic systems controlling cannabinoid production. Upon fertilization the plant’s energies are channeled into seed production instead of increased resin production.
Sinsemilla plants continue to produce new floral clusters until late fall, while seeded plants cease floral production. It is also suspected that capitate-stalked trichome production might cease when the calyx is fertilized. If this is the case, then sinsemilla may be higher in THC because of uninterrupted floral growth, trichome formation and cannabinoid production..." - http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/botany.html
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When cannabis goes to seed, the usable bud portion drops by more than a third.
After the stem is removed, only 32% of the remaining weight is bud.
http://www.safeaccessnow.net/adversitycanopy.htm
"What actually happens when a pistillate plant remains unfertilized for its entire life and how this ultimately affects the cannabinoid (class of molecules found only in Cannabis) and terpene (a class of aromatic organic compounds) levels remains a mystery. It is assumed, how ever, that seeding cuts the life of the plant short and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol the major psychoactive compound in Cannabis) does not have enough time to accumulate.
Hormonal changes associated with seeding definitely affect all metabolic processes within the plant including cannabinoid biosynthesis. The exact nature of these changes is unknown but probably involves imbalance in the enzymatic systems controlling cannabinoid production. Upon fertilization the plant’s energies are channeled into seed production instead of increased resin production.
Sinsemilla plants continue to produce new floral clusters until late fall, while seeded plants cease floral production. It is also suspected that capitate-stalked trichome production might cease when the calyx is fertilized. If this is the case, then sinsemilla may be higher in THC because of uninterrupted floral growth, trichome formation and cannabinoid production..." - http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/botany.html
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When cannabis goes to seed, the usable bud portion drops by more than a third.
After the stem is removed, only 32% of the remaining weight is bud.
http://www.safeaccessnow.net/adversitycanopy.htm
Flaming Pie
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Thats why u do it to branches that will be popcorn. =P
Lady.J
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Rather plan a well thought out grow specifically designed for breeding in a separate area. This grow is for smoke.
vinious
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150w sun system hps
1x42w 6500k CFL
2x 26w 6500k CFL
CFL is for lower buds as i did not prune that much.
A bit of lst for the tops because the plant is a bit tall and hit the light a few weeks ago but has since recovered
KidneyStoner420
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Bye Lady J. Hope to hear more from you.
FresnoFarmer
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And what does weight have to do with quality again?? Oh nothing? I thought so.Fresno, if you reread what I wrote, you will see that I said nothing about potency, but that I wanted a higher quality bud. It is not known whether sinsemilla is truly more potent or not, but seeds do significantly reduce bud weight, and there is a legitimate theory that cannabinod production takes a back seat when the plant focuses energy on the production of seeds. I also hate picking seeds from my bud. This is the way I like to smoke, so this is the way I will grow.
"What actually happens when a pistillate plant remains unfertilized for its entire life and how this ultimately affects the cannabinoid (class of molecules found only in Cannabis) and terpene (a class of aromatic organic compounds) levels remains a mystery. It is assumed, how ever, that seeding cuts the life of the plant short and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol the major psychoactive compound in Cannabis) does not have enough time to accumulate.
Hormonal changes associated with seeding definitely affect all metabolic processes within the plant including cannabinoid biosynthesis. The exact nature of these changes is unknown but probably involves imbalance in the enzymatic systems controlling cannabinoid production. Upon fertilization the plants energies are channeled into seed production instead of increased resin production.
Sinsemilla plants continue to produce new floral clusters until late fall, while seeded plants cease floral production. It is also suspected that capitate-stalked trichome production might cease when the calyx is fertilized. If this is the case, then sinsemilla may be higher in THC because of uninterrupted floral growth, trichome formation and cannabinoid production..." - http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/botany.html
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When cannabis goes to seed, the usable bud portion drops by more than a third.
After the stem is removed, only 32% of the remaining weight is bud.
http://www.safeaccessnow.net/adversitycanopy.htm
Lady.J
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Why ask a question and answer it for yourself? Why say anything if you don't care what I have to say? Thought that was the point of going to a thread someone started in the first place. So....what is your point of being here again?
Weight has a lot to do with quality when I consider the most desirable trait to be the most bud for my time. I don't want a 30% reduction in my crop just because other people think I should make seeds. Assuming potency is the same growing with seeds (which is highly arguable), why would I grow seeded bud at a reduction in crop, rather than grow the most bud I can to have smoke for as long as possible? Doesn't sound like quality from the perspective of someone looking for as much smokeable bud as possible... and at the end of the day I am growing for ME, not for you. So it really doesn't matter what that best bud you smoked is, your opinion is irrelevant. If you have a problem with that, feel free to unsub. I won't mind, promise.
FresnoFarmer
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Since when did I say I think you should pollinate your crop? Oh I never did? Thought so.
Anyways I was just giving you some input from another perspective. I was not telling you whether or not to pollinate your crop......you could grow crap weed for all I care because it doesn't affect me. I know people that would rather have a lot of good bud than an alright amount of fantastic bud.
P.S. I was never subbed.......Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions. I am the type of person that likes hearing others perspective on things. I am open minded. I guess not everybody is though huh?
Lady.J
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Did I say that you said I should pollinate my crop? No, I didn't...believe it or not, there are other people on here who give their opinions about the way to grow as well. After all, there were about 80 pages that existed before you came here and opened your mouth.
You came on this thread, didn't introduce yourself or say hi, but immediately jumped in after I said I find bud without seeds to be higher quality. The first post, cool whatever, not much to it. But the second? I wouldn't have even cared if you said something in a more tasteful / respectful manner, but instead, you came with an air of superiority. I already said that I don't like picking seeds out of my bud, and that I want the most bud possible...and you say, "And what does weight have to do with quality again?? Oh nothing? I thought so." I actually find that to be quite an idiotic statement after I just explained I want the most bud possible and growing bud with seeds would directly oppose that goal. If you're going to throw jabs, don't be surprised to catch a foot in your ass in return. I like hearing from other people's perspectives as well, and after 82 pages w/ various debates sprinkled in between, you're the only person who's accused me of not being open minded...once you become disrespectful, I don't give a fuck what you have to say or your perspective. Harsh? I don't care, I keep it real. If you want to come in here talking down, prepare to hear my muthafukin' mouth about it. If you don't like it, then don't come back.
You came on this thread, didn't introduce yourself or say hi, but immediately jumped in after I said I find bud without seeds to be higher quality. The first post, cool whatever, not much to it. But the second? I wouldn't have even cared if you said something in a more tasteful / respectful manner, but instead, you came with an air of superiority. I already said that I don't like picking seeds out of my bud, and that I want the most bud possible...and you say, "And what does weight have to do with quality again?? Oh nothing? I thought so." I actually find that to be quite an idiotic statement after I just explained I want the most bud possible and growing bud with seeds would directly oppose that goal. If you're going to throw jabs, don't be surprised to catch a foot in your ass in return. I like hearing from other people's perspectives as well, and after 82 pages w/ various debates sprinkled in between, you're the only person who's accused me of not being open minded...once you become disrespectful, I don't give a fuck what you have to say or your perspective. Harsh? I don't care, I keep it real. If you want to come in here talking down, prepare to hear my muthafukin' mouth about it. If you don't like it, then don't come back.
Cloudz2600
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Everyone just needs to vape and be cool...
Lady.J
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True. But there's something about unwarranted disrespect that makes me want to tell somebody about themselves...that's just the way I am. It's much easier for people to STFU if they don't have anything nice to say, just like their mama should have taught them! I'm obliged to remind.
Lady.J
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There were other people convincing me to pollinate before you came into the thread, so take your own advice about not making assumptions. As for being in a rage lol, child please. Cursing doesn't = anger, it means that I have no respect for you.You see in the top quote that you were insinuating that somebody(probably I) was suggesting that you pollinate your crop......Maybe you should think back on what you typed previously before you type out of rage next time
look up quality and quantity in a dictionary
