Michigan MJ news articles

gladstoned

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Giving the police access to the patient registry is a recipe for disaster.
They will be able to run plates at Taco Bell during any busy time and score meds.

They don't even realize people convicted of road rage should have the breathalyzer machines in their cars, but should have to blow smoke into it so they can be chilled out when they need to drive.
 

stumpjumper

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What you'll have is local boys looking up patients in their town (especially small towns) and waiting to see you driving... even sober you're FUCKED. Officer "I see you are a medical marijuana card holder. I think you are under the influence, please step out of the car sir..." Then they give you a roadside blood test, that they just made legal.. Even if you haven't smoked in a week... Say good by to your license and hello to a night in jail at the minimum.

It's going to be abused for state and local revenue at the expense of innocent citizens.

I can about guarantee this happens and when it does everyone is just going to roll over and take it up the ass.
 

tomcatjones

Active Member
What you'll have is local boys looking up patients in their town (especially small towns) and waiting to see you driving... even sober you're FUCKED. Officer "I see you are a medical marijuana card holder. I think you are under the influence, please step out of the car sir..." Then they give you a roadside blood test, that they just made legal.. Even if you haven't smoked in a week... Say good by to your license and hello to a night in jail at the minimum.

It's going to be abused for state and local revenue at the expense of innocent citizens.

I can about guarantee this happens and when it does everyone is just going to roll over and take it up the ass.
this happens already. i already know that they can look you up. they are just codifying what they've been doing all along.
 

jonnynobody

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I think the law allows for abuse by dirty cops but I don't think it will be as bad as you're thinking stump. I dunno about y'all but I use caution anytime I drive because I never have and never will trust any cop. I never smoke in my vehicle. I use visine before I drive if I toke before and I keep a bottle of cologne in my cup holder. My registration and insurance are stapled together under my passenger visor, ready for any LEO's review in under 2 seconds (i.e. no rooting through my glove box etc..) Under no circumstance will a cop get probable cause to take my blood. The problem is you have ignorant people running around that don't care / aren't interested in protecting themselves from probable cause searches and PC DUI blood tests. If I travel with meds, it's in my trunk secured away from any cops prying eyes.

Just being a cardholder will NOT pass as PC for a blood test on a traffic stop, so as far as I'm concerned, if a cop has no PC, they get no blood. I'll be more than happy to hire my lawyer to beat a PC hearing when / if I refuse an unwarranted blood test when there is no cause. People need to educate themselves and stop being reckless with their freedom. Ride around with a pipe in your cup holder and your car stankin and you're inviting your own trouble...just my 2 cents.
 

Huel Perkins

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Even if they know you are a card holding legal patient you need to deny any use of marijuana and deny any sort of blood test until you talk to your lawyer, period! Anything you say or do can be used against you in a court of law, don't give them any ammo...
 

jonnynobody

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Even if they know you are a card holding legal patient you need to deny any use of marijuana and deny any sort of blood test until you talk to your lawyer, period! Anything you say or do can be used against you in a court of law, don't give them any ammo...
Couldn't have said it better myself. All too often people get themselves arrested and charged with shit they otherwise wouldn't have been charged with / arrested for because they don't know how to shut their mouth and tell the pig nothing. Where are you going? I'm not interested in discussing my destination; everything you need is on my ID, insurance card, and registration. The supreme court themselves have declared in a precedent setting case that under no circumstances should a citizen speak with the police without a lawyer present. That's because they know how crooked cops are...as a citizen, you owe a cop NO explanation on anything.

It amazes me people just volunteer that, "oh yes officer, I just smoked earlier, but that was like 4 hours ago...". That shit = automatic arrest, impounded vehicle, and impending DUI charge.

Just wear your damn seat belts, have your registration, ID, and insurance card readily available, keep the paraphernalia and meds in the TRUNK, and you should have no trouble at all.
 

Huel Perkins

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Just wear your damn seat belts, have your registration, ID, and insurance card readily available, keep the paraphernalia and meds in the TRUNK, and you should have no trouble at all.

Also, keep your MMMP card out of sight unless they actually search your vehicle and find meds. Never give them any info about anything until you have to....
 

mipainpatient

Active Member
Also, keep your MMMP card out of sight unless they actually search your vehicle and find meds. Never give them any info about anything until you have to....
but keep it handy because they know they CAN arrest you if it isnt on your person in an eventuality. You will most likely get it tossed if nothing else goes down and can produce card in court but who wants to sit in jail in the first place?
 

Huel Perkins

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but keep it handy because they know they CAN arrest you if it isnt on your person in an eventuality. You will most likely get it tossed if nothing else goes down and can produce card in court but who wants to sit in jail in the first place?
I never said you shouldn't keep your card on you. My point is that you should never tell a cop you are a patient or show your card unless you have to. Getting pulled over for doing 5 over the speed limit will usually just result in a quick traffic ticket, but if you decide to show your card and tell the officer you have meds in the vehicle for no reason you're asking to be fucked with...
 

jonnynobody

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I never said you shouldn't keep your card on you. My point is that you should never tell a cop you are a patient or show your card unless you have to. Getting pulled over for doing 5 over the speed limit will usually just result in a quick traffic ticket, but if you decide to show your card and tell the officer you have meds in the vehicle for no reason you're asking to be fucked with...
Well said mr. perkins!
 

Timmahh

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yes no reason for a deeper search than a present and accounted for MMJ Card (Breach of HIPPA Privacy Laws, need a Suit for Vioiation of Privacy to dump the cards from a State list, or atleast all but the id number...on the cards.)
and no reason for the card unless there is a question of found cannabis. Dont put the horse before the cart. Be Smart.

lol i made a new rhyme. lol
 

cephalopod

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http://m.wlns.com/default.aspx?pid=2705&wnfeedurl=http://www.wlns.com/story/19465520/senator-works-to-change-state-marijuana-laws?clienttype=rssstory

Senator Works to Change State Marijuana Laws

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A local state senator believes Michigan voters should have another chance to decide on the medical marijuana issue.

Senator Rick Jones says that if it got on the ballot this time, the voters would turn it down.

"Perhaps it would be best to put it back on the ballot and let the people decide and it would have overwhelming support to change the law back," said Bill Clement with Lansing Chapter "NORML."

As the Michigan Senate prepares to debate changes to the current medical marijuana law, approved by over 60 percent of the voters,Senator Jones is thinking that does not go far enough and after the election, he may asked his colleagues for a re-do.

"I think that the results were bad enough that most of my constituents said we never expected this. 130,000 cards! We though there would be a few. We never knew this would be wide open literally with teen agers buying marijuana," said Senator Jones of Grand Ledge.

Clement believes this is an effort to "go against the will of the people." He believes if the voters had another shot, they would go a step further and legalize industrial hemp.



"I think the rule change is an attempt to stop or slow down the program," said Clement. "If the voters had another shot they would vote for industrial hemp to expand it."

Meanwhile on another front, the marijuana lobby will launch an effort to recall the GOP State Attorney General Bill Schuette who has fought the medical marijuana law.

"Bill Schuettee is not doing his duty," said Clement.
 

cephalopod

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http://www.theweedblog.com/medical-marijuana-is-mainstream/

[h=1]Medical Marijuana Is Mainstream[/h][h=4]Michigan’s Medical Marijuana Community Proves They Are Just Like Other Service Organizations- Sometimes, They Are Even Better…[/h]By Rick Thompson
What happens when mainstream meets new wave? Things change, paradigms shift, and society is better, improved, more in touch and involved. The medical marijuana community is that new wave that is rolling into, and changing, our definition of mainstream. Case in point: The Annual Labor Day Mackinac Bridge Walk 2012.
The Mackinac Bridge connects Michigan’s Upper and Lower Peninsulas. It’s a man-made wonder, 5 miles long that spans the connecting point between Lake Michigan and Lake Huron, and every year on Labor Day the Governor leads thousands of people as they walk across the bridge. This is theonly day pedestrians are allowed to walk on the structure so groups, organizations and companies gather their people and make a big day of it.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, and we look like it. Fifty fluorescent green shirts walked the bridge on Labor Day, each one covering a medical marijuana patient, caregiver or supporter. We walked next to church groups with their blue shirts; we pushed a wheelchair-bound patient over the bridge alongside pink-shirted breast cancer fighters; we laughed with white-shirted corporate types and gave high-fives to camouflaged National Guardsmen stationed along the arching roadway. We were as one with the masses of smiling, happy humanity. We were mainstream, accepted as equals.
Cannabis supporters participate in the 2012 Labor Day Mackinac Bridge Walk

Medical marijuana is mainstream, with an eye to civic responsibilities. Labor Day is time for the annual Telethon for Muscular Dystrophy. Each year the MDA locks people up in mock jail to raise funds. MedJoint owner Kevin Spitler raised the most money in the Kalamazoo area this year and went on television to present an oversized check to the MDA officials during the Telethon. Medical marijuana outraised the Elks, the Lions, the Eagles and the Optimists. I wish Jerry Lewis had lived to see the day his organization would get a shot in the arm from a group of sick people, because I think he would have loved it. MedJoint has donated 2 tons of food to the local Loaves and Fishes Food Bank, proving again that medical marijuana supporters are interested in helping others more than they are interested in asking for help.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, in the election cycle. Labor Day in an election year also signals an escalation of campaign ads, reminding us that our vote is equal among citizens and is valuable to all parties. This year medical marijuana is on the ballot is four Michigan cities, just like funding for the Arts and electing House Representatives. Kalamazoo will authorize dispensaries in November, while Flint and Detroit will decriminalize possession of cannabis by any adult on private property. Ypsilanti will tell their police force that enforcing anti-marijuana laws will be their Lowest Law Enforcement Priority after November’s vote, just like K-zoo did last year.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, politically. Election year campaigning means the mainstream parties hold fundraisers for their candidates. The medical marijuana community held fundraisers this year for Rep. Mike Callton’s Political Action Committee (PAC), raising nearly $50,000. More fundraisers are planned for Callton’s PAC and cannabis law reform supporters like Rep. Jeff Irwin of Ann Arbor. Money has been raised in Kalamazoo, Flint, Ann Arbor,Lansing, Detroit- the list goes on and on. September of 2011 saw 3,000 medical marijuana supporters flood the Capital Building in a giant protest that onlookers said was larger than many labor demonstrations held on the very same grounds. When you can out-draw the labor unions, you are powerful.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, and like other groups we have our celebrities. Authors like myself, MINORML Executive Director Matthew Abel, 2012 High Times Detroit Cannabis Cup Girl of the Year Emily Aryn, co-founder of the state’s oldest dispensary Jamie Lowell, event coordinator and legendary activist Brad Forrester- all were all there. Mr. Lowell, Mr. Abel, myself and fellow activist Tim Beck are frequently quoted in mainstream newspapers on issues of civil rights and drug law reform. The traditional media gets their information from us, which means we shape the definition of mainstream withevery interview and photo published.
Rick Thompson and 2012 Miss High Times Emily Aryn at Labor Day Bridge Walk

Medical Marijuana is mainstream, and we communicate better than other groups do. There are five radio programs broadcast in Michigan weekly whose primary focus is medical marijuana and drug law reform, including the Medical Marijuana Radio Show I co-host on 1310 AM WDTW. There are four publications issued monthly in Michigan that service the medical marijuana community and are distributed state-wide. Every one of them is free; if you see the MMM Report or the Cultivator, pick one up. Read about us. You’ll find that we are just like you, only more bold.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, and we contribute to the government better than most other groups do. It costs $100 per year for most folks to be registered as a patient with the State, and we have 200,000 participants. Do the math. Now consider the licensing fees paid by dispensaries to cities like Ypsilanti, Burton and Traverse City, then add the payroll taxeson wages earned by employees of cannabusinesses in both peninsulas. Lawyers,doctors, carpenters, landlords, small businessmen, gas stations and restaurants- all receive the benefits of a mainstream medical marijuana community that is active and growing in all of Michigan’s 82 counties simultaneously.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, nationally. Never has a state been given the option of fully legalizing marijuana for their citizens. Never. This year, three states will offer that choice to voters, not because their state governments are benevolent and wise but because the people demanded it. Four more states will vote in November to expand or adopt legalized medical cannabis for their citizens, too. Polls conducted across the nation show that legalization of marijuana has risen to above 50% public acceptance- medical marijuana regularly polls at around 80% acceptance nationally- and that makes us more popular than country music. More popular than the President. Medical Marijuana Is More Popular Than Chocolate Ice Cream! What could be more pop culture than that.
Medical marijuana is mainstream, and if you aren’t in the stream of things you’re being left behind on the old, dead river banks. Our community accomplished all of the above without government bailouts, without tax abatements, without SBA loans or Kickstarter funds or even acceptance from local officials. Some of us even accomplish these feats while facing investigations or criminal charges from the very same government we seek to bolster and improve. Medical marijuana is mainstream, and like the flow of a river you cannot stop the water no matter how hard you try.
 

cephalopod

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http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/09/wyoming_mayor_city_will_take_i.html

[h=1]Wyoming Mayor: City will appeal medical marijuana ruling to Michigan Supreme Court[/h]
courtesy photoA vial of marijuana for medical use.
WYOMING, MI -- The City of Wyoming will appeal a Michigan Court of Appeals decision that voided the city’s ordinance regulating the use of marijuana.
Mayor Jack Poll announced the council’s intent to appeal by reading a prepared statement following the public comment portion at the end of a council meeting Tuesday night.
“We feel that the Michigan law, as written, is very unclear," Poll said, reading the statement. "Unlike regulations for drunk driving, this law does not establish standards or tests for marijuana consumption."
“The law has the potential to create unsafe conditions on our roads. Without definite guidelines, it is impossible for our already busy police department to enforce.”
Last year, the council initiated a ban on marijuana in Wyoming, saying that it can only be distributed safely by pharmacists – not by licensed marijuana caregivers, as allowed by Michigan law.
Attorney John Ter Beek, an attorney and medical marijuana patient, filed suit in Kent County Circuit Court against the city in November 2010, saying that the council’s decision trampled the rights of state voters who approved medical marijuana in 2008.
The suit also said the decision violated the second article of the state constitution, which guarantees citizens’ rights to pass initiatives that amend state law.
Kent County Circuit Judge Dennis B. Leiber ruled in 2011 that the federal law against marijuana use trumps the state’s medical marijuana act. Ter Beek appealed, and the Michigan Court of Appeals sided with him about a month ago.
Now Wyoming said it will file an appeal with the Michigan Supreme Court by a deadline of Sept. 11.City Manager Curtis Holt estimated the cost of filing the appeal will be about $5,000.
“We certainly hope that the Supreme Court will hear the case,” said Poll. “That’s the first step.
“If they won’t hear the case, then it’s over.”
Contacted by phone after the board meeting, Ter Beek said he had not yet heard of Wyoming’s decision and was disappointed that the pending announcement hadn’t been made public before the meeting.
“I wish they would have put it on the agenda so I could have been there,” he said. “This is typical of the Wyoming City Council, doing things backhanded and sneakily so the public doesn’t really get a chance to say their piece.”
Ter Beek plans to watch for what comes next.
“I don’t think it’s going to be successful and I think that if they want to continue their political careers by being defined as a failure, then that’s fine, especially in light of the fact that they’re spitting on 63 percent of the voters,” Ter Beek said, referring to the number of voters statewide who supported the medical marijuana initiative; 59 percent of Wyoming voters also approved it.
“I’ll just wait and see what the Michigan Supreme Court does. I’ll be surprised if they even accept it for appeal.”
 

jonnynobody

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All I smell is 'hot air' in the atmosphere my friend. The SC will probably not even hear their case much less decide in their favor. I believe the SC has been very clear that the voter initiative provides clear and broad protections.

The opposition to our medical marijuana law says that voters never realized that such a large number of people (125k+) would register for the program and given the chance to change their mind, would overturn the law. I respectfully call BULLSHIT!

I had no idea that there was a limit on the number of people that could take advantage of a certain type of medical treatment. Apparently I missed that paragraph in the Michigan State Constitution. I wonder if those same people who object to the number of Citizens benefiting from medical marijuana have the same enthusiasm for persecuting others in the drug business such as Walgreens and CVS for the deadly drugs they sell, but we all know that will never happen because legislators are bought and paid for by those organizations. Medical marijuana doesn't yet have that lobbying power...but sometime very soon, things will change.
 

cephalopod

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[h=1]http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/09/report_operator_of_medical_mar.html#incart_river_default
Report: Operator of medical marijuana clinics in Cadillac, Ann Arbor accused of promoting drug for personal gain[/h]
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MICHIGAN -- A man who operates medical marijuana clinics in Cadillac and Ann Arbor is being accused of failing to maintain medical records and promoting “an unnecessary drug” for personal gain.
According to the Traverse City Record-Eagle, Edward Harwell owns and operates Triple M Clinics in Cadillac and the Liberty Clinic in Ann Arbor.
The state Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs reportedly filed a complaint against him this week.
Assistant Attorney General John Wright alleges Harwell failed to maintain patient records and acted in ways that were negligent and incompetent, the Record-Eagle reports.
Wright further alleges Harwell failed to respond to a subpoena and promoted “an unnecessary drug” for personal gain, according to the Traverse City newspaper.
Harwell reportedly has 30 days to respond to the complaint.
Around the time he began working at the Liberty Clinic in Ann Arbor, Harwell told an AnnArbor.com reporter he saw a need for medical marijuana treatment in the community.
“Most of them are very active citizens who wouldn’t be able to stand the pain without marijuana,” he said of his patients.
AnnArbor.com reported Harwell is a former neurosurgeon, radiologist and general practitoner.
Harwell declined comment on the recent complaint when contacted by the Record-Eagle.
 
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