The Seed Collectors Thread

[MonsterDrank]

Par isnt blocked by glass? I'm not buyin it. lol.

We aren't running LEDs here.. HID going thru glass vs not going thru glass effects yield. That is definite and anyone running both aircooled and non aircooled reflectors will notice that.

I use both and I can tell you for sure.. I am 100% positive that my non air cooled reflectors produced better denser nugs than the ones with glass. 100% sure.

MD you know anything about Project X from AKG ???

He told be about what was in the works but he wasnt calling anything Project X when we spoke, lol

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Racerboy I use magnum xxxl. I like them better then the raptors because of how the glass comes out. It's way easier to clean a magnum than a raptor IMO. Both are nice hoods but I chose The magnum for that reason.
Pretty sure someone in here was saying they liked the blockbuster(I think) better than the magnum and that they ahead used both. It was one of the regulars but I can't remember who.

Btw I smoked some stardawg today. That herbs some fire for sure

i love my stardogbx havent grown her out yet but have smoked buds from others who have grown out this cut

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Par isnt blocked by glass? I'm not buyin it. lol.

We aren't running LEDs here.. HID going thru glass vs not going thru glass effects yield. That is definite and anyone running both aircooled and non aircooled reflectors will notice that.

i actually saw less yield from my open bulb vert grow . . . . ?

yielded the same 4k vert as i did 2600 overhead in hood w/.glass, also i should say they were in the same area and i think 4k vert needed more room

 

[tryingtogrow89]

With the purpose of cool tube being that you can place it a hell of a lot closer to the canopy than with out air cooled speaks for itself imo. Not sure how its even debated that you get better yields without when you cant put the bulb as close.

 

[MonsterDrank]

i actually saw less yield from my open bulb vert grow . . . . ?

Well I am not talking about open bulb, I was referring to 2 identical reflectors, one with glass, one without. Just a bulb hangin out in the open, you lose alot of light. it just goes everywhere.

With the purpose of cool tube being that you can place it a hell of a lot closer to the canopy than with out air cooled speaks for itself imo. Not sure how its even debated that you get better yields without when you cant put the bulb as close.

Closer isnt always better. I try to keep my 600s 18". Much closer you actually can stress the plant out and see bleaching. Just have to find that sweet spot.

 

[karmas a bitch]

Hahahahaha samwell I just saw your sig! Makes sense to me

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Well I am not talking about open bulb, I was referring to 2 identical reflectors, one with glass, one without. Just a bulb hangin out in the open, you lose alot of light. it just goes everywhere.

you get more surface area in a vert bare bulb then you do from a 180 degree reflection of half the bulb in open hoods, or parabolic s

bare bulb vert means the bulb radiates around 360 degress of 3 feet of penetration around the bulb

im assuming i did it wrong guy i know get 3 per light using vert bare bulb

Hahahahaha samwell I just saw your sig! Makes sense to me

he gave me "douche" rep so i found one of his first threads and made its title my sig . . .got to play the part

 

[MonsterDrank]

Parabolics are the shit. <-- Love mine.

I cant speak from experience about vertical growing, but I just would think that having more concentrated light, more light density on one small spot, would produce better results. As long as the lights are at the recommended distance from the canopy anyway.

HPS
600w - 18"
100w- 24"

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Parabolics are the shit. <-- Love mine.

I cant speak from experience about vertical growing, but I just would think that having more concentrated light, more light density on one small spot, would produce better results. As long as the lights are at the recommended distance from the canopy anyway.

HPS
600w - 18"
100w- 24"

ya mine was about 20 inches from bulbs, had 4 in center of room plants to ceiling and plants on ground liek stadium . . . there were so many problems i switched back, to hot, to man light leaks(not the vert bulbs fault)

it was all around a loss for me

i love my parabolic too, hope i can get 2 per this time

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Parabolics are the shit. <-- Love mine.

I cant speak from experience about vertical growing, but I just would think that having more concentrated light, more light density on one small spot, would produce better results. As long as the lights are at the recommended distance from the canopy anyway.

HPS
600w - 18"
100w- 24"

^^ i take it you meant 1000watts? and not 100? if so i must be lucky to not have had any adverse effects from having my 1000w riding anywhere from 10-14 inches above canopy at all times......

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

^^ i take it you meant 1000watts? and not 100? if so i must be lucky to not have had any adverse effects from having my 1000w riding anywhere from 10-14 inches above canopy at all times......

24 has more to do with viable lux/lumens penatration into canopy then it does harm to your platns . . i think

you must have good conditions eh, temp, humidity air flow . . .

 

[tryingtogrow89]

24 has more to do with viable lux/lumens penatration into canopy then it does harm to your platns . . i think

you must have good conditions eh, temp, humidity air flow . . .

6" cool tube
400+cfm 6" fan
oscillating fans
12,000 btu a/c - dehumidifier
4x4 grow tent

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

6" cool tube
400+cfm 6" fan
oscillating fans
12,000 btu a/c - dehumidifier
4x4 grow tent

dang with a thousand?

. . . ., in my girls ten she is running
.

1k dual arc bulb hortilux
Chinese parabolic vertizontal hood
5x5 jordin or some other tent

LG 8kbtu A/C(exhaust only)

circulating tall fan

4in intake fan

4in fan hooked up to a canna filter55(or 35) filtering room air and spitting it into A/C intakes, carbon filter

9plants in 5 gallon smart pots(east coast alien dog, SayD, teneseee HOG, GDP x SOUR D, stardog2f*8weeker, dog poo 3(?), double gorrilaGrape x emerpoer kush(gorrila grape leaning cut), starfire 2c*joany rotten cut, Zombie virus 6)

Soil-50/50 Canna CoCo to HP promix

Nutrinets-
Veg
Canna A-4ml a gallon
Canna B-4ml/g
Cannasym- 9ml/g
Rootamentary 1ml/g
Sea green 1ml/g
Eckolonie kelp- 5 ml/g
earth juice 1ml/g
Root bloom- 1/8 tsp/per bucket
Bio grow-5ml/g(once a week)
roots accelerator 1ml/g
true blooms- 1ml/g(start 2 weeks before flower,so right at beginning of veg)

Flower-
Canna A-10ml a galon(cut at 3 weeks before harvest)
Canna B-10ml/g(cut three weeks before harvest)
Cannasym- 9ml/g(cut a week before harvest)
Rootamentary 1ml/g(cut after week 4)
Sea green 1ml/g(cut 10days before harvest)
Eckolonie kelp- 5 ml/g(cut after week 3)(thank you krink)
earth juice 1ml/g(cut after week 4)
Root bloom- 1/8 tsp/per bucket(cut after week 4)
Trinity- 5 ml/g(cut 1 week before harvest
Canna Boost-5ml/g(cut 1 week before harvest)
Pk 13/14(used 28-35 days before harvest for 3-4 feedings at 6ml /g)
Bio grow-5ml/g(once a week)
roots accelerator 1ml/g(cut 2 weeks into flower)
true blooms- 1ml/g(cut 3 weeks before harvest)

i know it seems like of products, but at low levels a lot but i do a long flush with phed 6.0 water, also i only end up bying nutrients about 2 times a year tops, and for soem bottle its once a year

 

[tryingtogrow89]

dang with a thousand?

. . . ., in my girls ten she is running
.

1k dual arc bulb hortilux
Chinese parabolic vertizontal hood
5x5 jordin or some other tent

LG 8kbtu A/C(exhaust only)

circulating tall fan

4in intake fan

4in fan hooked up to a canna filter55(or 35) filtering room air and spitting it into A/C intakes, carbon filter

9plants in 5 gallon smart pots(east coast alien dog, SayD, teneseee HOG, GDP x SOUR D, stardog2f*8weeker, dog poo 3(?), double gorrilaGrape x emerpoer kush(gorrila grape leaning cut), starfire 2c*joany rotten cut, Zombie virus 6)

Soil-50/50 Canna CoCo to HP promix

Nutrinets-
Veg
Canna A-4ml a gallon
Canna B-4ml/g
Cannasym- 9ml/g
Rootamentary 1ml/g
Sea green 1ml/g
Eckolonie kelp- 5 ml/g
earth juice 1ml/g
Root bloom- 1/8 tsp/per bucket
Bio grow-5ml/g(once a week)
roots accelerator 1ml/g
true blooms- 1ml/g(start 2 weeks before flower,so right at beginning of veg)

Flower-
Canna A-10ml a galon(cut at 3 weeks before harvest)
Canna B-10ml/g(cut three weeks before harvest)
Cannasym- 9ml/g(cut a week before harvest)
Rootamentary 1ml/g(cut after week 4)
Sea green 1ml/g(cut 10days before harvest)
Eckolonie kelp- 5 ml/g(cut after week 3)(thank you krink)
earth juice 1ml/g(cut after week 4)
Root bloom- 1/8 tsp/per bucket(cut after week 4)
Trinity- 5 ml/g(cut 7 1 week before harvest
Canna Boost-5ml/g(cut 1 week before harvest)
Pk 13/14(used 28-35 days before harvest for 3-4 feedings at 6ml /g)
Bio grow-5ml/g(once a week)
roots accelerator 1ml/g(cut 2 weeks into flower)
true blooms- 1ml/g(cut 3 weeks before harvest)

i know it seems like of products, but at low levels a lot but i do a long flush with phed 6.0 water

Seems you got it down to a science of your own for sure.
I personally use coco as well, it is the botanicare aeration formula 50/50 coco and perlite.
I water drain to waste every time with around 20% run off. 5.8-6.0 ph i feed every watering. in flower they get fed about 1550ppm every watering and sometimes they actually want more nutes!
all botanicare Pure blend pro nute line, liquid karma, hydroplex, sweet, silica blast, cal mag, and i also use humboldt purple maxx snow storm the last 4 weeks of flower.
a little epsom salt here and there and some hygrozyme and of course beneficials for the microbial life.
5 to 7 gal pots depending on my mood and how long i decide to veg, (some longer than others because slower veggers).
But thats pretty much it, before i had this system i used all soil and advanced nutrients, to say the least my system now is much more dialed and better results.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

i never run any waste, not a drop leaves my soil if i could help it, i dont even leach or flush my plants before harvest, my buds come out very smooth, and flavorful (depending on strain), wasted nutrients is wasted money to me , so i try not to waste a thing, even reuse my soils, once i break down roots with cannasyme and had a fish fert in there to revitalize the soil,50/50 mix old to new, ill use a reworked soil for about 2-3 runs before i dump it all and start over.

also i fed ever day, about 1000ppm's, got to remember that some of what im feeding is organic so it will not show up on the PPM meter

, and even if they are damp ill just give em a little, i try to keep the soil zone saturation around 50% always

sea green, is a humic fulvic soy,kelp hydrolasate, and for some reason it kills insoluble salt formations i forget what exactly is does but it

prevents salt build up that can not be absorbed by plant

i also use 7 gallon pots an 5's

 

[tryingtogrow89]

i never run any waste, not a drop leaves my soil if i could help it, i dotn even leach or flush my plants before harvest, my buds come out very smooth, and flavourfull(depending on strian)

also i fed ever day, about 1000ppm's, got to remmber that some of what im feeding is organic, even if they are wet ill jsut give em a little, i try to keep the soil zone saturation around 50% always

sea green, is a humic fulvic soy,kelp hydrolasate, and for some reason it kills insoluble salt formations i forget what exactly is does but it prevents salt biuld up that can not be absobed by plant

i also use 7 gallon pots an 5's

I just run the drain to waste on coco. in soil i didnt.
The reason i do is because botanicare recommends it to keep things less saline. Seems to work for me cause i dont have to flush either, as long as i drain to waste every or every other water things stay real smooth for me the entire grow.
I have also read endless shit on coco and everyone recommends drain to waste with that medium, apparently its the proper way to use coco as a medium for growing.

 

[MonsterDrank]

yea def meant 1000w.

heres a bud too close. not mine but u get the idea. this happened to me recently tho. pisses me off when i see that. i try to stay 18-20" away with my 600 now at all times.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I just run the drain to waste on coco. in soil i didnt.
The reason i do is because botanicare recommends it to keep things less saline. Seems to work for me cause i dont have to flush either, as long as i drain to waste every or every other water things stay real smooth for me the entire grow.
I have also read endless shit on coco and everyone recommends drain to waste with that medium, apparently its the proper way to use coco as a medium for growing.

weird i have heard the exact opposite, that soil need to drain and dry out, where CoCo coir doesn't cause it is inert soil medium and doesnt react as other peat based soils do . . .

tell you the truth since starting growing, ive have used canna CoCo line nutrients and coir, and i have never flushed at all until harvest, i figured why run my bennies and bacteria and microbes out of the soil and jsut let it all groove like a ecosystem

tell you what though, my cost per a gram when on this regime is around 1.42 a gram, about 1.5 per+ depending on strain

 

[tryingtogrow89]

yea def meant 1000w.

heres a bud too close. not mine but u get the idea. this happened to me recently tho. pisses me off when i see that. i try to stay 18-20" away with my 600 now at all times.

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very interesting never happened to me but i be sure to take note of this, so what else does it do to the bud other than discolor it? anything?

 

[Boyz N Da Hood]

MD you know anything about Project X from AKG ???

I dunno but the movie kicks ass lol