gun law reform... please!

[canndo]

who the fuck is going to stay in their house if the government announces that they are coming for citizens' arms? i'm going out to the forest. no military in the world could stomp out a motivated, stick and move guerrilla enemy in Appalachian Mountain territory, the land of 10,000 lakes, the Louisiana bayou, and the list goes on. one side is fighting for their paycheck, the other side is fighting for their freedom.

So Romantic, so "Red Dawn", so John Wayne. And so false. As I often say here. If the government wants your guns, unless there is no paper trail to them, you will voluntarily, begrudgingly but willingly surrender them to the nearest armory without a single shot fired and a single knock on your door..

And if there is no paper trail, no one will ever come to your home to get them. Your heart warming story about people heading to the hills to fight the bad old government thugs will never happen.

 

[canndo]

Tell that to someone defening their MMJ case in federal court.

Well, you have a point, but you are still better off, the playing field still allows you council, the presumption of innocence and the right to remain silent.

 

[canndo]

You must not know what "team", "group", or "commitment" mean imo.

I know what all of them mean, and I know that team group and commitment are also inherent in our militia and our military. I know that leadership takes a bit of time to establish and each of those concepts you use demand leadership. If, next week you were told that they were coming for your guns, unless you are a part of a fanatical group, you would have no team or group and no leader for them.

I suspect that if the government were plotting to "take your guns" as you seem to believe, that they would also be hoping that you continue to believe in the fairy tale of citizens rising up and overthrowing their opressors, because as long as you keep believing it,, they will have the advantage.

 

[canndo]

Tell THAT to the British and every other gov't that has fallen to armed revolution. Cuba comes to mind.

The british? oh you mean those folks that had to crawl over here in sailboats and marched in big squares and had the same weapons that the rebels did - that british.

Name a modern armed revolution where the mismatch was even close to unorganized, poorly armed, unsuported communicationless, planless citizens vs. a million troops heavily armed with the most advanced war making capability in the history of the world.

 

[canndo]

no no no,, we have no chance at all we should submit to the whims of our betters, secure in the knowledge that eventually they will throw us a bone, or let us sift through their garbage for apple cores and crusts of bread.

submission is the only hope we have of surviving their power, they are superior, powerful, almost godlike in their potency. who are we to question our gods.

submission leads to happiness and fulfillment in the execution of your purpose.

concern ourselves not with matters beyond our understanding, we must focus on our tasks and do our duty to the tech-preists and the god-emperor of the Imperium of Man!

The Emperor preserves, The Emperor Protect!

Duty to the Emperor is the highest glory!

Do not question the Inquisition or their Commissars, they do the Emperor's will!

Shift Nine workers report to the liquidation chamber, your contract is terminated.

Shift Eight workers report to the Protein Vats, your services are required for the processing of Shift Nine.

The first to fall are the ones that believe that our only solice is our weapons. The first to falter are the ones who see only frontal assault. You seem to believe that there is only polarity, if we don't hold to the fairy tale that we as citizens can overthrow the U.S. government then we must surely be submissive serfs bowing to the man.

If one recognizes that one's plan is fataly flawed, then if one is at all smart, they will look to the other weapons they have at their disposal before it is too late.

 

[canndo]

being on the lowdown has NOTHING to do with the Downlow. (Foggy is intimating that you are an homosex,, and in the closet)

On The Lowdown fundamental information often overlooked by casual observers
On The Downlow closeted gay,, usually refers to urban black gays who face abnormally strong social stigma for being a poop-shooter outside of a prison setting.
On The LowLow Secret, inconspicuous. discrete
On The DownDown a cretin or mongoloid. having an extra chromosome resulting in severe retardation and a distinctive "neanderthal" look.

This is the funniest thing I've read in months.

 

[nontheist]

 

[canndo]

I believe that touting a particular automatic or semi-automatic firearm as an "assault weapon" is about the same as an anti-abortionist claiming that a fetus has a beating heart at 4 weeks.

 

[nontheist]

I believe that touting a particular automatic or semi-automatic firearm as an "assault weapon" is about the same as an anti-abortionist claiming that a fetus has a beating heart at 4 weeks.

It was a joke canndo, its ok to laugh. When it comes to guns the media is a joke almost amusing to watch.

 

[canndo]

It was a joke canndo, its ok to laugh. When it comes to guns the media is a joke almost amusing to watch.

I got the joke non, I just put a little edge on it for our far right friends.

 

[cannabineer]

I believe that touting a particular automatic or semi-automatic firearm as an "assault weapon" is about the same as an anti-abortionist claiming that a fetus has a beating heart at 4 weeks.

The difference is that the heartbeat thing is a biological fact. The assault weapon thing is a purely arbitrary definition. While the heartbeat thing can be abused, it isn't wrong like the misappropriation of the term "assault weapon". /rant
cn

 

[canndo]

The difference is that the heartbeat thing is a biological fact. The assault weapon thing is a purely arbitrary definition. While the heartbeat thing can be abused, it isn't wrong like the misappropriation of the term "assault weapon". /rant
cn

Something that looks like it means business must be more
Dangerous
destructive
hateful

But you see, both can be used. The idea that because a weapon is nasty looking it is defined as a different animal is the same sort of idea that because a creature has a beating heart it is more:

loveable
human
vulnerable
precious

That was my point

 

[cannabineer]

Okay. That passed me by ... I looked at it dispassionately. And now I'm riffing on combining the two ... Bambi as a Transformer ... cn

 

[budlover13]

Something that looks like it means business must be more
Dangerous
destructive
hateful

But you see, both can be used. The idea that because a weapon is nasty looking it is defined as a different animal is the same sort of idea that because a creature has a beating heart it is more:

loveable
human
vulnerable
precious

That was my point

It is more alive than the gun?

 

[Dr Kynes]

The british? oh you mean those folks that had to crawl over here in sailboats and marched in big squares and had the same weapons that the rebels did - that british.

Name a modern armed revolution where the mismatch was even close to unorganized, poorly armed, unsuported communicationless, planless citizens vs. a million troops heavily armed with the most advanced war making capability in the history of the world.

vietnam.

cuba

egypt

somalia

south sudan

kosovo

the russian overthrow of the soviet union

ireland in 1916

the chinese communists overthrow of the kou min taou

even the boxer rebellions would hav ewon if the US and the rest of the european colonization nations hadnt ganged up on The Sick Man of Asia. and those bastards only had Kung Fu.

 

[Dr Kynes]

The first to fall are the ones that believe that our only solice is our weapons. The first to falter are the ones who see only frontal assault. You seem to believe that there is only polarity, if we don't hold to the fairy tale that we as citizens can overthrow the U.S. government then we must surely be submissive serfs bowing to the man.

If one recognizes that one's plan is fataly flawed, then if one is at all smart, they will look to the other weapons they have at their disposal before it is too late.

if one surrenders all resistance to injustice and simply works from within an unjust system, then the system will eventually be "reformed"...

i for one aint surrendering shit. you can give upo all you like, but that wont make you any better than the cowards who hid in their basements or fled to the forests to hide when the british marched on lexington.

there are no songs sung of the bravery of benedict arnold, and we dont even remember the names of the capitulators.

i bet you're french.

 

[NLXSK1]

Gun control really worked well for the Australians....

[video=youtube;p8RDWltHxRc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RDWltHxRc&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[MuyLocoNC]

A man with a concealed handgun license was able to stop a brutal stabbing that took place outside of a school in San Antonio, Texas.

The attack occurred at around 10 a.m. Tuesday outside of the Bonham Academy, WOAI reports. Teresa Barron, 38, had just dropped her child off at school when the kid’s dad showed up, prompting a heated argument. The child’s dad, identified as Roberto Barron allegedly pulled a knife and began stabbing Teresa in the upper body and neck several times.

After witnessing the assault, a quick-thinking bystander with a concealed handgun license drew his gun and ordered Roberto Barron to drop the knife. The father complied and surrendered and was taken into custody by the good Samaritan and a school district officer.

WOAI has more details:

According to court documents, Teresa Barron filed for divorce from her husband Roberto back on August 22nd. The documents also showed Barron filed for a temporary restraining order. A hearing was scheduled for this Friday, August 31st, but Tuesdays incident changed everything.
Police said Barron stabbed his wife several times after an argument outside the school their daughter attended.
“We are all real saddened about the situation, and we were all very hurt to find out what had happened, “a Bonham Academy parent said.

Teresa Barron was in critical condition Wednesday morning at the San Antonio Military Medical Center. Meanwhile, Roberto sits in a jail cell on a $300,000 bond — increased from $150,000 — and is charged with aggravated assault. According to court records, the couple has been married since 1994.

I'm sure she would have been better off if the guy with the concealed weapon had just minded his own business and let the police handle it. Of course, she would be dead, but I'm sure she would rest peacefully knowing her murderer MIGHT be caught and prosecuted. Her daughter would be better off as well, right?

And all the bystanders his errant shots struck would be better off as well. What? He didn't even have to discharge the weapon? This can't be true, EVERYONE with any common sense knows these "cowboys" are reckless and trigger happy.

Idiots.

 

[budlover13]

Don't see many stories like this in the MSM even though they are quite common.

http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/Armed-bystander-stops-stabbing-outside-school/6zTYMpy8pUOeyrbElEBOTQ.cspx

"Police say a bystander who happened to be a concealed handgun license holder pulled his weapon and ordered Barron to drop the knife. Barron surrendered and was taken into custody by the bystander and a school district officer."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shoot-the-mother-fker-gun-store-owner-open-fires-on-3-burglars-kills-1-after-they-drive-a-van-through-the-wall/

“Is this something you ever wanna do in your life?” he asked. “No. Something you have to do? If you’re forced to it, you’ve got to.”

 

[deprave]

Name a modern armed revolution where the mismatch was even close to unorganized, poorly armed, unsuported communicationless, planless citizens vs. a million troops heavily armed with the most advanced war making capability in the history of the world.

What? Thats like every revolution ever, am I not understanding the question?

back on topic....


I have a very hard time understanding how people think police can have magic powers and fly out of nowhere faster than the speed of light all the way from the police station and using psychic powers stopping bullets in their path before they hit you in the face.

I mean...I can sum it up in two sentences:

1)Bad guys have guns.
2) Police don't have magic powers.


It is really that fucking simple.