First Closet CFL Grow

[FrostickZero]

that's what I'm doing right now, but I'm going to need a decent way of keeping it cool constantly incase I'm not here. I want it to stay around a steady temp of 72 and around 64 at night.

if you can have a few intake ports close at the ground to where the air is cooler then that would be even better

 

[kochab]

tomorrow will be the start of week 4. i was wondering if she was supposed to be this under developed this far into flowering. Something was seeming right.

thats the thing about growing bagseed, you never know any specifics of the strain that you are growing until you've gotten to know it from your own experiences. in a way its kinda like a bitch, youve gotta fuck it a few times before your 100% sure of what it likes and what it takes to get it all the way right.

I dont know how I'm going to get the heat out of there. I'm on my lunch and looked at the temp and its at 79.2 with 29% humidity. I put a gallon of water in a milk jug and another glass that was for my blender and filled it up with water. I put it in my op a few hours ago, and still no humidity changes. Whats a good way to get my humidity from 20% to 50-60%.

if its a closet that you can leave open or whatever open that mofo up and set a box fan in there blowing the heat out or if the beast can stand it reverse it around to blow cooler air inside the closet.
and as far as raising that humidity up youll need that water in a warm place where some evaporation can take place or an old trick that i used to use before i got more favorable conditions....
I used a small box fan but i suppose any fan will work, moisten a towel up (so that it wont drip into the motor of the fan etc...) and lay the towel over the fan on a setting so that it dosent blow the towel off. That should super crank your humidity levels. The smaller the droplets in the air, the more humidity there will be.

 

[kochab]

I want it to stay around a steady temp of 72 and around 64 at night.

but the only way to keep perfect conditions is to spend a bit of $ and set that thing up right. in order to do that youll have to put in some ventalation, and probablly physically alter the closet. Is that something that you wanna do in order to keep using it for a while?

 

[grassgirl]

tomorrow will be the start of week 4. i was wondering if she was supposed to be this under developed this far into flowering. Something was seeming right.

I dont know how I'm going to get the heat out of there. I'm on my lunch and looked at the temp and its at 79.2 with 29% humidity. I put a gallon of water in a milk jug and another glass that was for my blender and filled it up with water. I put it in my op a few hours ago, and still no humidity changes. Whats a good way to get my humidity from 20% to 50-60%.

I need a better way of getting heat out of this grow op, but I'm not to sure what else I can do, without spending a lot of money.

Hey T
As far as the flowering goes, yes I guess it could be because it's bag seed, don't forget also you took clones, maybe the plant needs a few days to repair itself ?
As for humidity mine has always only been around 21 - 26 % , during flowering you need the humidity low or the risk of bud rot increases, a higher humidity is better during veg tho.
As for the heat issue, do you have a window in the room your closets in ?
I have mine open constantly to keep my temps down, other than that I would suggest maybe putting a hole in the door to your room (easier to do than putting one in the wall) & use a fan to blow more cool air in that way.

Hope I helped you T xxxx

 

[jasonlocsouthkorea]

looking clean tool
cheers
jay

 

[Alto]

Just give her time Toolage, like GG said you took clones so she may have lost a step
The buds will fill in with time
Not knowing what the strain is there is no real way to know flowering time
It could take longer than you might have thought
It has kinda skinny leaves indicative of strong Sativa Genes
and Sativa matures more slowly than Indica.
Looking good tho' keep up the hard work dude.

 

[kochab]

Just give her time Toolage, like GG said you took clones so she may have lost a step
The buds will fill in with time
Not knowing what the strain is there is no real way to know flowering time
It could take longer than you might have thought
It has kinda skinny leaves indicative of strong Sativa Genes
and Sativa matures more slowly than Indica.
Looking good tho' keep up the hard work dude.

i grew out a sativa bagseed one time that took like 16 weeks to finish. but she was pretty big like tools plant too. I try to keep mine smaller nowa days

 

[toolage]

Hey T
As far as the flowering goes, yes I guess it could be because it's bag seed, don't forget also you took clones, maybe the plant needs a few days to repair itself ?
As for humidity mine has always only been around 21 - 26 % , during flowering you need the humidity low or the risk of bud rot increases, a higher humidity is better during veg tho.
As for the heat issue, do you have a window in the room your closets in ?
I have mine open constantly to keep my temps down, other than that I would suggest maybe putting a hole in the door to your room (easier to do than putting one in the wall) & use a fan to blow more cool air in that way.

Hope I helped you T xxxx

Hey gg +rep when it allows me to again Thanks for all your help and support! xx
I do have a window in that room, but I don't want to open it. That window is pointed right into the parking lot of the apartment complex and I don't want any light leaks from that lol. I might buy a replacement door and install it where the door is, if I do any damage to the door that is there, I'll have to pay an assload to the complex. Thank you again for that info!!

looking clean tool
cheers
jay

Hey Jay, thanks for the compliment bro glad to see ya!!

Just give her time Toolage, like GG said you took clones so she may have lost a step
The buds will fill in with time
Not knowing what the strain is there is no real way to know flowering time
It could take longer than you might have thought
It has kinda skinny leaves indicative of strong Sativa Genes
and Sativa matures more slowly than Indica.
Looking good tho' keep up the hard work dude.

Yeah she's def a sativa. I was hoping for a short harvest, but I don't think that will happen. Maybe by the end of june she'll be done, instead of the 1st week of june like I was hoping. She's looking nicer and nicer everyday. The only bad thing I can say is, she has weak leafs cause when the fan blows on them they just fold over and droop.

i grew out a sativa bagseed one time that took like 16 weeks to finish. but she was pretty big like tools plant too. I try to keep mine smaller nowa days

Kochab, thank you very much for all your help man its really appreciated!! I think I'm going to buy another osiclating fan, and cut a big hole around my tarp for the size of the fan and blow air out. I am also going to hook up 2 more 120mm PC fans at the bottom blowing air in. Also, as Grassgirl suggested, I will be replacing a door and cutting a hole into that and blowing air out that way.


Thank you all for your help and support, it's very much appreciated. Without everyone, this grow would be a complete failure!!

 

[kochab]

Kochab, thank you very much for all your help man its really appreciated!! I think I'm going to buy another osiclating fan, and cut a big hole around my tarp for the size of the fan and blow air out. I am also going to hook up 2 more 120mm PC fans at the bottom blowing air in. Also, as Grassgirl suggested, I will be replacing a door and cutting a hole into that and blowing air out that way.

np man

if your gonna cut a hole in any doors then I would do it near the top of the door and use a squirrel cage fan to pump that heat out of the top of the closet. You can add a small fan near the bottom of t he door to bring cold air in if you wish.

 

[toolage]

np man

if your gonna cut a hole in any doors then I would do it near the top of the door and use a squirrel cage fan to pump that heat out of the top of the closet. You can add a small fan near the bottom of t he door to bring cold air in if you wish.

squirrel cage fan?? never have heard of that lol. How big are they? I just realised that if I cut a hole in the door, it's going to be letting in a lot of light leaks at night. The door is right next to my bathroom, my bedroom and the living room which has a 100" projector which is bright as hell. So I think that might be out of the question now that I think about it.

I have been biting the bullet and just running my ac pretty cold. It's been a steady 67-70 right now since the lights have been on. Last night it got down to 62. We'll see how badly this effects my power bill to find out if I can continue to do this.

 

[mmclean3]

Dude ur best bet is. If u have any kinda setup like mine,Set up a window unit in ur room . U can get a good window unit for like 100 bucks. After that put a vent tube off teh ac unit into either ur grow op or ur light. What i use also is a cool mist air humdifier. Brings temps down bout 10 degrees make humid up to 65-70 percent . Only cost about 50 bucks u fill it wit water I dont kno how tight u are on cash. But thats only a buck 50

 

[toolage]

Dude ur best bet is. If u have any kinda setup like mine,Set up a window unit in ur room . U can get a good window unit for like 100 bucks.

I do have a window in that room, but I don't want to open it. That window is pointed right into the parking lot of the apartment complex and I don't want any light leaks from that lol.

If I could open that window it would make things a million times easier. This is the problem I'm dealing with, every window in my apartment points to something that could lead to suspicion that I'm growing.

I did also just realise that the 120mm fans that are hooked up to my HPS aren't even working. Though one of the fans that are hooked up to the tarp is still blowing air out of the duct. The temps are still staying around 68-71 and my humidity is around 30%. I keep getting mixed readings that I'm supposed to have my humidity around 60-70% for flowering and others are telling me 20-30% for flowering. I'm not to sure what I'm supposed to do..

 

[mmclean3]

Well ur apartment has a build in ac unit right ?

 

[kochab]

If I could open that window it would make things a million times easier. This is the problem I'm dealing with, every window in my apartment points to something that could lead to suspicion that I'm growing.

I did also just realise that the 120mm fans that are hooked up to my HPS aren't even working. Though one of the fans that are hooked up to the tarp is still blowing air out of the duct. The temps are still staying around 68-71 and my humidity is around 30%. I keep getting mixed readings that I'm supposed to have my humidity around 60-70% for flowering and others are telling me 20-30% for flowering. I'm not to sure what I'm supposed to do..

ive never heard or even dreamed of anyone trying to vent an hps wiht pc fans...
most people use squirrel cage fans like this one. is a rather larger more expensive unit but there are many smaller units that you can find for about $45-$60.
Fan: Dayton 1210 cfm Squirrel Cage Fan: HY
[SIZE=-1] DAYTON 1210 CFM SQUIRREL CAGE SHADED POLE BLOWER FAN WITHOUT POWER CORD. Start this puppy up and hold on to your hat. Strong and quiet. ...
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and that one youd need a flat panel with a hole in it to addapt to ducting work as well. then all the heat off your light would be sucked off the light down a tube and into the open room nearby. there wouldent be any problem with lightleaks then because it would only be that tube of ductwork coming through the door (kinda like a dryer hose sticking out the door)

 

[grassgirl]

Hey gg +rep when it allows me to again Thanks for all your help and support! xx
I do have a window in that room, but I don't want to open it. That window is pointed right into the parking lot of the apartment complex and I don't want any light leaks from that lol. I might buy a replacement door and install it where the door is, if I do any damage to the door that is there, I'll have to pay an assload to the complex. Thank you again for that info!!

Hey no probs T
I can't give any at tho mo either grr,

Thats a bummer about the window, how about if you get a bamboo blind & screw it or pin it to the window so it doesn't flap, then just open the window while your lights are on ?
Heat issues are a real bummer, I've always suffered with them the lowest my temps go are like 74, at peak they go to around 90

 

[toolage]

ive never heard or even dreamed of anyone trying to vent an hps wiht pc fans...
most people use squirrel cage fans like this one. is a rather larger more expensive unit but there are many smaller units that you can find for about $45-$60.
Fan: Dayton 1210 cfm Squirrel Cage Fan: HY
[SIZE=-1]DAYTON 1210 CFM SQUIRREL CAGE SHADED POLE BLOWER FAN WITHOUT POWER CORD. Start this puppy up and hold on to your hat. Strong and quiet. ...[/SIZE]

and that one youd need a flat panel with a hole in it to addapt to ducting work as well. then all the heat off your light would be sucked off the light down a tube and into the open room nearby. there wouldent be any problem with lightleaks then because it would only be that tube of ductwork coming through the door (kinda like a dryer hose sticking out the door)

ok sweet bro thanks for the heads up. My shop sells those and they are quite pricey! I will look on craigslist, ebay etc for some good deals on them. Thanks for the help and +rep when I can give more out.

Thats a bummer about the window, how about if you get a bamboo blind & screw it or pin it to the window so it doesn't flap, then just open the window while your lights are on ?
Heat issues are a real bummer, I've always suffered with them the lowest my temps go are like 74, at peak they go to around 90

Well I think I've got it mostly under control right now with the AC running to like 68. I also took the fan that was blowing over my plants and faced it so it blows out of the grow op. Light has been on for close to 5 hours and the max it has gotten to is 72.3

 

[grassgirl]

Excellent

Well done T

 

[Alto]

Always knew you could do it T, never doubted.

 

[kochab]

good job man, i need to get my ass off here and take some young ones outside.....
then i got to get back to cramming this ged shit so i can ake my test..
bummer. this shit is so monotonous, Id rather be working on heat issues anyday. (but then again i wish i could get back to indoor growing soon too)

 

[Enigma]

If I could open that window it would make things a million times easier. This is the problem I'm dealing with, every window in my apartment points to something that could lead to suspicion that I'm growing.

I did also just realise that the 120mm fans that are hooked up to my HPS aren't even working. Though one of the fans that are hooked up to the tarp is still blowing air out of the duct. The temps are still staying around 68-71 and my humidity is around 30%. I keep getting mixed readings that I'm supposed to have my humidity around 60-70% for flowering and others are telling me 20-30% for flowering. I'm not to sure what I'm supposed to do..

Windows A/C units aren't very suspicious.. but window vents are. Read up on FLIR.

Humidity for clones and seedlings = 60-70% (watch out for mould!)
Humidity for veg = 40-60%; it could be lower is you like smaller leaves for better canopy light penetration.
Humidity for flowering = 30-40%; this produces more resin. Since the air is so dry the plants produce more resin to trap in moisture.

Hope this helps, ya TOOL!



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