Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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tenthirty
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HB,
Have you heard of veg & bloom by Hydroponic Research?
If so what do you think?
I've tried it for 3 sets of rez changes and the one thing I can say for sure, is with RO, I haven't had to adjust anything with the rez's.
I mean to say that this stuff comes out of the box at 5.7 to 5.8 PH every time. Run the EC up or down, PH stays really close.
The plants look pretty happy as well.
Have you heard of veg & bloom by Hydroponic Research?
If so what do you think?
I've tried it for 3 sets of rez changes and the one thing I can say for sure, is with RO, I haven't had to adjust anything with the rez's.
I mean to say that this stuff comes out of the box at 5.7 to 5.8 PH every time. Run the EC up or down, PH stays really close.
The plants look pretty happy as well.
Hey HB thanks for all the knowledge I have learned from reading your journals. I have been reading through this thread looking for your most current feeding schedule. I have a copy of the one posted in the gh vs dynagro journal but in guessing you have a "more tweaked version" available. If you could just point me in the general area of this thread where I would find it I would. E really appreciate it. If not I'll just keep hunting. Thanks for all the knowledges you dropped upon me
homebrewer
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Do you think the 'slow to flower' issue could be traced back to your lights?
I thought the numbers looked a little high, maybe the calcium and sulfur numbers if I remember correctly? But overall, people seem to be having some good results with it and it's cheap and easy too! I'm all for that!
In hydro, I feed at around 1.1 EC for flower. 80% of that is base, 15% is magpro and 5% is silica. I use floralicious only in hydro. That's it really.
homebrewer
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I'd use RO if I were you. If you're not using RO, you may not need the extra magnesium from magpro. Tough to say unless you have a city water report.
matatan
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hey HB when you did that run with Great White did you try it out on clones? unrooted clones that is. according to the bottle it says to dip cutting in rooting compound then sprinkle some great white on the dipped cutting then stick in RW or aero cloner or whatever.
also read about people using it in the res of an aerocloner by itself for the first week.
so many ways not sure which is correct or if there all wrong...
also read about people using it in the res of an aerocloner by itself for the first week.
so many ways not sure which is correct or if there all wrong...
homebrewer
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Nah, never needed to test it out like that. I use clonex and KLN and haven't lost a cutting in years.
homebrewer
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They're not the same type of product though if budswell is ok for hydro use, it may have a positive affect on flavor.
Trichy Bastard
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Budswel is like a bat guano tea. It's good stuff in the right environment- I've used before in organic gardening, but it made a mess of my hydro res- think putting shitwater in your res- I like my hydro clean and clear, but that's just my personal preference.
BudHound
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Regarding the "slow to flower" its possible that the Kessil lights could have been the contribution for delay in flower. I did have issues all in August with heat, humidity, airflow, powder mildew and not to mention all the cocktail mix I was mixing. I'm now seeing flower buds, but if I were to compare with my HPS lights the bud formation is way btr. Ill be posting pics of them. I was adding 4ml/gal of bloom before and upped on it to 6ml bloom, 1/2ml of grow, 4ml Protek, want to say 2-4ml of Magpro. Took your wise advice and cut back on all other additives used. Like you said read your plants and its what I have been doing. Your feeding schedule was changed bc of strain and growing conditions.
I just bought a 1k hortilux and instead going to be switching most my led batches to hps, can't afford to have a shitty crop with all the labor time invested. Plus taking a 6-10 month break of growing for moving reasons so def not looking to harvest low quality nugs. Once back in I plan to get back using your method of Sunshine #4 and Dyna. No one can go wrong with the nutrients on how effective they are and economical price!
In regards to the Kessils they are good, but wouldn't bet on producing much! Stealth Grow a diff story! Didn't meant to get off topic here. Thnx for the info man. Keep up the good work!
I just bought a 1k hortilux and instead going to be switching most my led batches to hps, can't afford to have a shitty crop with all the labor time invested. Plus taking a 6-10 month break of growing for moving reasons so def not looking to harvest low quality nugs. Once back in I plan to get back using your method of Sunshine #4 and Dyna. No one can go wrong with the nutrients on how effective they are and economical price!
In regards to the Kessils they are good, but wouldn't bet on producing much! Stealth Grow a diff story! Didn't meant to get off topic here. Thnx for the info man. Keep up the good work!
homebrewer
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A proper environment is paramount and is probably the single most important factor in indoor growing. Once your environment is stable, you can then start making tweaks here and there with your feeding schedule. In the meantime, read your plants and try to minimize the environmental stresses.
HB, I hope you're still keeping an eye on this thread. I'm completely at my wit's end. I started using DG when I popped these two girls, but I just cannot seem to get it right. I'm using 100% perlite hempys, and PH is fine. Temps stay below 75, and I am feeding with every watering at 1/2 tsp grow, 1/2 tsp protekt. I feel like I have been extremely conservative with nutes, but then I get burnt tips. So I back off, and then I get yellowing leaves. I'm about to pull my hair out. Now I'm getting a droop on both plants, as you can see below. Any help would be amazing.
homebrewer
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Droopy leaves usually means some kind of moisture stress (too wet or too dry). I don't necessarily see burning but I do see that you should probably increase the amount of plant food you're feeding. Lower leaves that are yellowing means you need more nitrogen. Hit them with 1 tsp/gallon grow formula and enough protekt to balance that pH. But first, leach your medium with maybe a gallon of tap water just to be safe. You do have some unhealthy lower leaves which to me look like you're letting your medium dry out too much, concentrating the salt content, and creating a scenario where your lower leaves appear to be showing signs that your medium has some excessive salt buildup.
Of course I can only guess what's going on with your plants. If they were mine, i'd be testing the pH and EC of my run-off water. I'd make sure I'm watering them enough, and I probably wouldn't be growing in perlite unless I has some kind of automated drip feeding system. Keep us posted.
It's a hempy bucket. The water falls into a reservoir at the bottom, so I should really never have an overwatering issue. And presumably, I shouldn't be having PH issues.
Here is the pot I use, so I am able to see when it dries up:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-5.2-Self-Watering-Planter/16630836
I just flushed them, in case of salt buildup. I feel like something is locking me out, because the tips keep crisping and growth has slowed down. They're about a week in 12/12. Sorry the pictures are so bad (my camera is a lo-tech phone).
Here is the pot I use, so I am able to see when it dries up:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-5.2-Self-Watering-Planter/16630836
I just flushed them, in case of salt buildup. I feel like something is locking me out, because the tips keep crisping and growth has slowed down. They're about a week in 12/12. Sorry the pictures are so bad (my camera is a lo-tech phone).
homebrewer
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How much experience do you have with your perlite-only growing method?
To be honest, I picked it up to avoid the PH issues associated with soil and have had trouble with it all along the way. I've changed out nutes three times assuming that was the problem. I have a good lamp, lots of circulation, and I check on 'em every single night. I've seen people use mediums such as powdered rockwool and pro-mix. I just can't seem to get it right, though it seems like it should be so simple. Maybe I should go back to dirt.
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