Romney already causing tension between the US and Russia

timbo123

timbo123

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canndo said:
I will say it again. consider that you ARE subject to being locked up under either administration. Consider that your vote for anyone else will not get you a guy who would champion legalization. Now figure that your best vote will be for someone who selects supreme court justices who are for individual liberties and not against them. Vote for someone who is inclined to put someone on the court who does not believe that government should be afforded every convenience when it comes to courts and jails. Knowing that you have a higher likelyhood of coming into contact with the law, wouldn't it be wise to vote for someone who will put a judge on the court that thinks that even criminals have rights?
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And just whom do you think that candidate would be? I voted for Obama last time based on his lies about leaving medical MJ dispensaries alone. That didn't pan out too well. We all know that Mitt thinks caffeine is strong stuff that should be avoided.
Let's consider the VP candidates:
Joe Biden:
Appearing on Good Morning America, Vice President Joe Biden condemned Robertson's commentary, saying, “I still believe it's a gateway drug. I've spent a lot of my life as chairman of the Judiciary Committee dealing with this. I think it would be a mistake to legalize.”
Paul Ryan:
Says: Let the states decide for themselves!!! Watch the video here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/paul-ryan-marijuana-legalization_n_1866180.html

So... there really isn't a clear candidate for what you are suggesting.
I say again... Gary Johnson 2012.
 
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beenthere

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
What a disaster this dumbass is.....


Putin: Romney helped Russia by calling it top foe


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MOSCOW—President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that a comment made by U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney has made Russia feel justified in opposing America's missile defense plans in Europe.
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You're just pissed off that Obama is a chicken shit apologist that kisses Putin's ass.
That ass kissing tactic works as well with Russia as it does with bullies in real life, without the threat of kicking that ass, you'll be kissing it forever.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
That's nice, to bad Mitt is now in favor of the death penalty for weed smokers.
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At the very end of the Federal rainbow, the death penalty already is a possibility for mega weed producers. Wonder why the guy that the DEA reports to (Obama) hasn't got all "hope and change" on that law?

...and I agree with you Romney is not good for cannabis users.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Rob Roy said:
At the very end of the Federal rainbow, the death penalty already is a possibility for mega weed producers. Wonder why the guy that the DEA reports to (Obama) hasn't got all "hope and change" on that law?

...and I agree with you Romney is not good for cannabis users.
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Because conservatives would come out in full swing saying he's soft on drugs. Almost certain he would lose considerable ground in the election.
 
canndo

canndo

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timbo123 said:
And just whom do you think that candidate would be? I voted for Obama last time based on his lies about leaving medical MJ dispensaries alone. That didn't pan out too well. We all know that Mitt thinks caffeine is strong stuff that should be avoided.
Let's consider the VP candidates:
Joe Biden:
Appearing on Good Morning America, Vice President Joe Biden condemned Robertson's commentary, saying, “I still believe it's a gateway drug. I've spent a lot of my life as chairman of the Judiciary Committee dealing with this. I think it would be a mistake to legalize.”
Paul Ryan:
Says: Let the states decide for themselves!!! Watch the video here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/paul-ryan-marijuana-legalization_n_1866180.html

So... there really isn't a clear candidate for what you are suggesting.
I say again... Gary Johnson 2012.
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I thought I was quite clear -


Neither candidate is for legalization.

Johnson, even if he did win would have a hard time executing such a move.

That being the case, you have a choice, you vote for Romney and he puts justices on the Supreme court who don't much see the point in those accused of crimes having rights or you vote for Obama and he puts justices on the supreme court who do believe in the rights of the accused, who do believe that police shouldn't get every benifit of the doubt.

For instance, you would want to have justices on the Supreme court who think that evidence obtained through subterfuge or abuse should be inadmissible. You would want a justice that thinks that maybe overflight surveilence is not a good idea. You might for instance want a justice who thought that thermal imaging should not be admissible in court, that one's bags should not be allowed to be searched if they are passengers in a vehicle that was pulled over for a traffic stop and if something was seized, it as well would not be admissible.

See what I am saying? If we cannot influence decisions at the front door, if we cannot get over the political hurdle of legalization then we must ensure that we have the best advantage against the government if we are caught up in these unreasonable laws.

that is the reason you vote for Obama rather than a third party.
 
haight

haight

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beenthere said:
You're just pissed off that Obama is a chicken shit apologist that kisses Putin's ass.
That ass kissing tactic works as well with Russia as it does with bullies in real life, without the threat of kicking that ass, you'll be kissing it forever.
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Walk softly and carry a big stick. - T. Roosevelt
 
BadDog40

BadDog40

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beenthere said:
You're just pissed off that Obama is a chicken shit apologist that kisses Putin's ass.
That ass kissing tactic works as well with Russia as it does with bullies in real life, without the threat of kicking that ass, you'll be kissing it forever.
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When did Obama apologize to Putin?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
timbo123 said:
And just whom do you think that candidate would be? I voted for Obama last time based on his lies about leaving medical MJ dispensaries alone. That didn't pan out too well. We all know that Mitt thinks caffeine is strong stuff that should be avoided.
Let's consider the VP candidates:
Joe Biden:
Appearing on Good Morning America, Vice President Joe Biden condemned Robertson's commentary, saying, “I still believe it's a gateway drug. I've spent a lot of my life as chairman of the Judiciary Committee dealing with this. I think it would be a mistake to legalize.”
Paul Ryan:
Says: Let the states decide for themselves!!! Watch the video here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/paul-ryan-marijuana-legalization_n_1866180.html

So... there really isn't a clear candidate for what you are suggesting.
I say again... Gary Johnson 2012.
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The Veep picks are not relevant. Veeps don't execute or visibly affect policy. Their utility ends on election night, barring of course a problem with the actual Chief's longevity. cn
 
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NoDrama

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cannabineer said:
The Veep picks are not relevant. Veeps don't execute or visibly affect policy. Their utility ends on election night, barring of course a problem with the actual Chief's longevity. cn
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They can cast the deciding vote of congress, so they have that power. Plus most of them play a good side kick to the pres.
 
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NoDrama

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BadDog40 said:
You called him an apologist in reference to Putin and Russia, what was he arguing in defense of?
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Don't you know what an apologist is?

it doesn't have much to do with apologizing, but more to do with defense of an idea in speech or writing.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
NoDrama said:
They can cast the deciding vote of congress, so they have that power. Plus most of them play a good side kick to the pres.
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I was gonna ask "and how often does that happen", decided that I could Google it, and have found that in recent history Cheney has done this eight times and Gore, four. Biden has no incidences.
Also, to clarify, the Veep can only do this in the Senate, not the House. cn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tie-breaking_votes_cast_by_Vice_Presidents_of_the_United_States
 
timbo123

timbo123

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Some interesting highlights from the Huffington Post article linked at the bottom of this post:
" In order to win this election and bring relief to patients, progressives sh'ould make their support for medical cannabis part of the national dialogue."
(I believe in this. THIS is the message Obama needs to understand. Not a message that we'll give him our votes even if he ignores us or worse.)

Why do Progressives need to get involved?

  1. In the three and a half years of Obama's Presidency, his administration has raided more medical cannabis facilities than in the eight years of President Bush.
  2. Despite his pledge to govern by science rather than politics, Obama's DEA has taken the position that marijuana is "without accepted medical use" (a decision we are challenging in court on October 16th).
  3. There are now over one million legal medical marijuana patients in the United States, twice as many as in 2008.
  4. Seventy-four percent of Americans oppose federal interference with state medical cannabis laws.
  5. Elections can turn on this issue. From Democratic Congressional primaries to big-city District Attorney races to statewide elections, candidates opposed to medical marijuana have lost when the issue is present.
  6. Obama can move us forward on this issue without being wrong. Circumstances have changed since 2008, with many more states (as well as DC) adopting compassionate use laws, and with marijuana's status in the Controlled Substances Act under scrutiny by federal courts. Deprioritizing enforcement is no longer enough. There needs to be a conversation about the disconnect between state and federal laws. Who better than this historic president to lead this historic conversation?

"...If the Progressive community can unite around compassion, the issue can be taken away from the Libertarians. Progressives -- and anyone else who wants to see Obama win in November -- should join ASA in helping to wake the president up to the fact he can't take medical marijuana patients' votes for granted."

YES!!! My thoughts EXACTLY! :clap:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steph-sherer/could-propot-candidate-gary-johnson_b_1853219.html
 
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