Union Teachers Say The Hell With Students

cannabineer

cannabineer

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Corso312 said:
Still confused...if I gave you 34 diff strains of clones and gave you 2 months and you could not get me 2 zips dry..i would have to yank your growing card brother.
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Two zips dry per clone, and no "cheating" by assigning overages from good performers to cover the shortfalls of those that didn't. That would be the analogy to NCLB. cn
 
Corso312

Corso312

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cannabineer said:
Scabs? Nonunion public teachers? I'm pretty sure I don't understand.
My complaint/suggestion is to do away with NCLB and any other specious, spurious schemes to index teachers' work to an administrable measure of their students' performance. Any measure simple enough to appeal to administrators will be too simple to be lifelike, and the result is the current system in which teaching has had to abandon its core principle in order to fight for survival. Because NCLB turned teachers into competitors. It's a real-life lesson in the unintended consequences of an idea prized by conservatives: that competition breeds excellence. But the competition is rigged: it's an entirely artificial box into which the teachers have been forced. cn
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The whole test is a joke I agree...I was never going to be a rocket scientist or surgeon ..I knew from an early age I hated school...did not like taking orders or doing things "because I was told to" ..I saw my old man making ends meet with 5 kids working construction and was content with being a tradesman...I am no retard(although some on this site may disagree) I did not do any home work from the age of 9...did not even take books home..I would toss my book bag in the bushes outside school and walk home with no books or anything..copy shit if it was important in the morning off someone...I was a bad student..somehow I remember almost everything they tried to teach me..tested well and got by with c's and d's with zero effort...I can add and subtract..multiply and divide numbers in my head faster than most people with a pen n pencil...I have an excellent memory and fairly sharp....when they would bust out the yearly tests..in those days I believe it was called the CAT test it was the scantrons ..when they first came out in grade school in 90-91...I would literally fill in anything to get the fuck out of there...I did not care..I doubt that there are not tens of thousands of kids like I was ...that is a horrible way to evaluate a teacher..I was the dick, not the teacher..year after year teachers would try to force me to do shit and the harder they tried the harder I refused..... In my opinion there are better ways to approach teaching..if you would have said "hey dummy...lets take this engine apart or lemme show ya how to build a light..I would have been all in...but a single test every year is an awful way to determine any progress.
 
deprave

deprave

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still don't understand why people are upset about people getting paid a descent wage and why that’s an issue or how lowering wages would somehow improve that situation.

will you republican's listen to yourselves? I mean really....There has been times in my life were I considered myself a conservative but I have never bought the whole unions are all evil lie.
 
Krayven Sumhead

Krayven Sumhead

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deprave said:
still don't understand why people are upset about people getting paid a descent wage and why that’s an issue or how lowering wages would somehow improve that situation.

will you republican's listen to yourselves? I mean really....There has been times in my life were I considered myself a conservative but I have never bought the whole unions are all evil lie.
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Republican rhetoric.

All the 'Lumber Barons, Oil Barons, Industrial Barons' used to spouse that horseshit.

Henry Ford was one of the worst!!
 
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beenthere

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Grandpapy said:
Give me 34 different varieties of clones from 34 different sources, but most of the same age but then tell me I have 8 weeks to get 2 oz of dried product from each.
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Why the exaggeration?

If union growers were producing 14 grams per plant dry and you knew the plants should be averaging 24 grams per plant, would you want union growers growing your stuff?

You dolts will just not admit any wrong doing from any union, why the fuck do you think 40% of the Chicago teachers send their kids to private schools?
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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beenthere said:
Why the exaggeration?

If union growers were producing 14 grams per plant dry and you knew the plants should be averaging 24 grams per plant, would you want union growers growing your stuff?

You dolts will just not admit any wrong doing from any union, why the fuck do you think 40% of the Chicago teachers send their kids to private schools?
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Simple, I wouldn't put my clones in with powdery mildew, spider mites ect. either. If i had a choice.
They, the "Union", don't raise children, In this scenario the union teachers are given students from toxic soil, bad water, poor feeding, and uneven light environment.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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beenthere said:
Why the exaggeration?

If union growers were producing 14 grams per plant dry and you knew the plants should be averaging 24 grams per plant, would you want union growers growing your stuff?

You dolts will just not admit any wrong doing from any union, why the fuck do you think 40% of the Chicago teachers send their kids to private schools?
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The real question, is why are you suppling your growers with such crappy clones?
 
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beenthere

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Grandpapy said:
Simple, I wouldn't put my clones in with powdery mildew, spider mites ect. either. If i had a choice. As an analogy, it sure appears the union growers are doing just that!
They, the "Union", don't raise children, In this scenario the union teachers are given students from toxic soil, bad water, poor feeding, and uneven light environment.
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The growers didn't clone the cuts either!
Would throwing more money to the union growers make the plants produce any better?


 
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beenthere

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Grandpapy said:
The real question, is why are you suppling your growers with such crappy clones?
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Don't know about you bro, but as long as I have the genetics, I can take mediocre clones and turn them into some nice mature blooms!

The same way one kid from the same poor inner city family goes to an ivy league school while their sibling rots in a prison cell!
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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beenthere said:
Don't know about you bro, but as long as I have the genetics, I can take mediocre clones and turn them into some nice mature blooms!

The same way one kid from the same poor inner city family goes to an ivy league school while their sibling rots in a prison cell!
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Yes it can be done, but you cant get your 2 zips from a Sativa with root lock in 8 weeks you need 10!

Wow! just think of the profits you will make once your suppliers can produce good clones!
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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I'm not sure I understand the goings-on of the last few pages, but it sounds uneasily eugenic. Just improve the quality of the feedstock (students), and it'll all work ... cn
 
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beenthere

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Not one pro union person on this thread has addressed the fact that 4 out 10 Chicago teachers send their own kids to private schools!
 
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